Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

Some people are stubborn, and just think they can somehow just outdrive their way to victory.

Even if you can shoot over the 4.5 foot tall opaque blocker (still legal) many teams will still have to deal with the tall robot blocking their low camera/vision tracking systems if they are mounted low.

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

Having a bunch of these little pocket modifications and mix ups to a strategy you run is what can provide you the security or comfort of going up against not just an average robot but the unknown. If you only ever did boulder breaching scouts would pick up on it in an instant and then someone would go "just do this" and you would be out of luck again.
In a community full of smart people like this one no matter what strategy you bring to the table, unless its a choke hold someone, somewhere, will figure you out. All that is needed is time.
I posted one of my mixups at 1:00pm in less then twenty minutes someone had formed a solid counter point, and by the 40 minute mark the counter strategy started to form. By 2:30pm someone had called a different strategy to address the same problem.

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

You all were great partners, and we can't express how much we appreciated all the effort that you and 5098 gave to get us to another world championship. You both performed above our expectations, and we will be cheering for you guys at the Lonestar regional. That's going to be a tough one! Good Luck and we will see you in St Louis

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

the tape robot saved us so much.

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

i will try to get you the video.

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

Here's what our video team has offered. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDH...TNU4b_rGHTVFjg

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

Nice, I'd hope that with enough successful defensive robots that maybe teams will start to see this as a viable strategy.

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

Yeah. In our finals two match we actually sheared all 6 bolts that were holding on the sprockets to our first chain driven wheel. I think by the looks of driving, we did some damage in the semis as well.

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

One of the most exciting games to play and i have to admit what an amazing defense by 5098, we always thought about the strategy but were never able to execute it. Since we weren't able to shoot from outerworks or batter we only had the option to score low goals which also very difficult against such a good defensive robot. Congratulations 1806, 4857, and 5098! what an alliance to play against.
:D

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

Our biggest concern was trying to defend against both you and 4522 since you shot from different positions. Unfortunately we didn't get that opportunity since 4522 had issues in both matches. Not sure how things would have turned out then, but I'm sure both matches would have been very close.

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I have to admit, watching from home, I was really looking forward to the finals matches between teams we have formed friendships with over the years. It was hard to choose who to root for. I was so disappointed to see 4522 sitting still after autonomous. I believe the finals would have been very exciting if all six robots were in action.

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

My team has been debating, with the exception of the pinning rule is it illegal to just push the defender into the moat? For a defender to be mobile they are usually kit-bot style chassis (not always I know) and I am pretty sure we can push them (provided we aren't on the batter) anywhere we want to in 1st gear.

Not talking about breaking their robot just pushing them out of the way.

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

There would be some penalties for pushing them into the moat, I'm not sure how it would be called, but it is illegal for them to make contact with you while in the outerworks, but you may get called for pushing them into the moat to intentionally draw a penalty.

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

It is illegal for them to make conact with you while YOU are in the outerworks. If you push THEM into the outerworks without entering the outerworks yourself, I don't see any rule violations (nor did the refs at the couple of matches where I saw this happen).

Re: A video guide to playing shutdown defense in Stronghold
 

I guess depending on the size of your robot and the robot you push you might not have to enter the outerworks yourself to push someone into them, but even if just your bumpers cross the plane of the outerworks a penalty of some kind should be called.

I think if you are able to move a robot around the field without them being able to control their movements at all a pin should be called.