Originally Posted by AmiableVariable (Post 1565220)

Concerns about building this aside.
I would be worried giving something like this to an alliance partner who would be driving it for the first time in playoffs. There are not a lot of teams using holonomic drives, and kiwi drives MUCH differently from a standard kitbot, Rhino treads, or most other drive trains. As such, there would be a very high chance of getting stuck in the secret passage and lowbar, or racking up fouls for hitting someone in the outerworks, just in an attempt to get to the secret passage.
It is an interesting concept, but not reasonable to implement in between alliance selection and playoffs.

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1565218)

So Zebracorn cheesecake?[1]



[1] If Chicago can have it's own pizza[2] why can't Team 900 have their own cheesecake?

[2] Which I still hold is not real pizza [3]


[3] And I may be fine with people putting whatever they want ON their pizza I am NOT ok with people making their pizza that thick. It's an abomination!

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1565218)

So Zebracorn cheesecake?[1]



[1] If Chicago can have it's own pizza[2] why can't Team 900 have their own cheesecake?

[2] Which I still hold is not real pizza [3]


[3] And I may be fine with people putting whatever they want ON their pizza I am NOT ok with people making their pizza that thick. It's an abomination!

Originally Posted by Andrew Schreiber (Post 1565218)

So Zebracorn cheesecake?[1]

Originally Posted by orangemoore (Post 1565233)

I invite you to come try our pizza in person. Maybe then you will be able to understand it better.

Originally Posted by Al Skierkiewicz (Post 1565246)

While not something you have every night, you do have to experience the Lou Malnotti's butter crust just once to be amazed.

Originally Posted by JamesCH95 (Post 1565131)

by definition frame perimeters cannot be convex.

Originally Posted by rick.oliver (Post 1565297)

I don't understand how this robot design and the strategy of stopping low goal scoring meets the definition of a Choke-hold.

A choke-hold strategy is one, when executed effectively, guarantees a win, regardless of what the opposition does.

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1565271)

By definition, all robot frame perimeters are convex.

R2 blue box:

Originally Posted by Ether (Post 1565271)

By definition, all robot frame perimeters are convex.

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1565307)

It definitly could be debated whether this would be effective especially in elims but by definition this is a choke hold strategy.

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU (Post 1565316)

At lower levels, the top seeded alliance is often formed by 2 fast low goal cyclers. I had GTCR in mind, when we lost in semis to 1511 and 2601, 2 low goal shooters, and where the top seed was 3683, with an incredibly fast cycler as well. I agree it's useless against teams that shoot high goal from anywhere else than the batter

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1565322)

Do not forget that was a week 1 competition. At this point most winning alliances score mostly high goals.

What scares me about something like this is, it is actually worse then a kitbot in a high goal scenario. This thing could not defend for the life of it and, it will end up wasting the single robot in the courtyard rule being I do not even think this thing could climb over the secret passage lip.

Its a cool idea but I do not see it being practical, or useful after further examination.