Yet another reason to make the Switch...
 

For all of us out there without a frontal lobatomy, Apple has realeased three new switch ads. One of the few include this guy called Tony Hawk, whoever he is...;) If the rumors are true, expect more celeb switches soon.

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JosephM

I admit that I enjoyed my days with my mac in college, but boy did I get razzed about it by the guys that worked with my former spouse at Novell. They would call it "Nintendo" because they thought it was too easy.
I have come to like both. They each do well in their place for the purposes they are used for. Choosing between one or the other would be like choosing between children.

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what is this world coming to?!??!


at IUPUI (the university i am attending) we prolly have 250 + computers in our library. mac's make up about 50 of them, the rest of them are Dell P3's and P4's. The point of this is that I think it's hillarious when there are lots of spaces open for mac's and there are lines of people trying to get onto a PC. Maybe this means something.... :)

Iwwww..... Slow-vell!

Too true. My poor ex was miserable there.

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People don't know what they're missing.


;D

<--goes back to his PC.

If you can run linux on it, it's good in my book...

There's quite a vulgar video that I know of which is a parody of one of the Apple Switch commercials. Be warned, it contains some language many might consider not-so-nice... IM me somehow for the link, I'll not post the link on these boards...

It does what you need it to do when you need it and without the massive resources needed to run NT, without the crashes. So I'm going to have to disagree with you here.

Imac, should be renamed to the Icrap.



The mac wil never reach the status that the commonplace PC has achieved...*shudders*

Heh. I don't get it. Why does everyone seem to complain about Windows then when someone mentions an alternative, all you hear is "eww." I hear it just about every day in my school...

"Windows sucks"
"Yeah, so try something different"
"Like what?"
"Linux, mac, there are more..."
"What's lye-nicks? Mac's are dumb. *hits head repeatedly* I HATE WINDERS I HATE WINDERS"

So maybe I exaggerated a bit on the last part...but STILL!

So much hypocrisy...

I think it's impossible to persuade a Windows-hater away from Windows. I've shown them some awesome linux/mac screenies...they say "coooool" but when pushed to switch, they say "no" Anymore, there isn't _that_ much of a learning curve to Linux...

I guess I can understand not switching to Apple...due to the expensive hardware, but Linux is a fricking free alternative!

At our school we refer to them as Mac'n'trash...

Stupid pieces of garbage...

The Emacs and G4's look cool though and run alright but i hate using them for advertisement design for the yearbook and newspaper

Wanna know why they say there an alternative but people keep slaming them? Becuase the PC users do. They don't user Macs, now do they? Nope.

Have a nice day PeeeCeee users...

sure, we make up 5%, but @!#@!#@!#@!#, that's the smartest 5% out there.

I really don't understand these hardcore Geeky Windows People. It seems to me that they can't get in their mind that there is more than Microsoft in the world.
To me, Microsoft has never had an innovative idea in their entire corporate history. All of their products are a knock off of something else, they do not conform to standards, and I really don't like how they use their dominating power.

There was actually one joke about this situation:

"Geeks, don't like Macs, because it so simple that consumers will not need them for repairs and set-up" Or it was something like that:

To all of your Mac Haters, why do you hate Macs? I never heard a single good reason that PCs are better than Macs. So answer that question.

So what if something is different? if you haven't use it, don't diss it.

For example, David Coutsey, from ZDNET was once a Mac Basher, and called mac loayist, fanatics. Now when he tries his iMac, he said that it is the best hardware and OS he as ever used.

Oh by the way, Macs can run linux. Linux for PPC has been out for some time now, and that is what IBM uses in their Power 4 design. The most popular I know of is Yellow Dog Linux, but that may change, because Red Hat said that it was making a PPC version of Linux.

About the Price. Yes I do admit that Macs are a little more expensive than PC's. But I assure it is worth every penny. You get all of the iApps for free, the OS X system, and a bunch of other free stuff. Which could add up to hundreds more if you wanted to buy third party software. So you have to look at the whole picture, and not just the typical sterotypes.

I use windows simply b/c I'm too lazy to load anything else on this computer or even buy a Mac...
I've used Mac's before and I'm comfortable with them but they just aren't that common anymore...I grew up on an Apple actually...

As for Linux...I've used it once a while ago...but I haven't been exposed personally to that OS too much (I know Joe and Jim use it that its with people I know that use it....)

i've tried to learn some linux, and i've gotten pretty far (for me). i actually installed a couple of distros, settled (for now at least) on debian, got xwindows to work, got a bunch of programs i would use (web browsers and the such), and most importantly SAMBA. so now i have a pentium pro 200 Mhz computer running debian, with a 120 gig HD acting as a second file server on my home LAN. (yes, i did say second. the first one got full. 40 gigs just wasn't enough ;)). after i got that set up i kinda left it. it's been on almost non stop for a while now. never crashes, just keeps on going. my windows server (the first file sharing server) needs a reboot at least once a month, usually closer to once every week or two.

if i get some free time i'm going to dig up an old hard drive, or delete some stuff on my windows one, and install linux on my "play" computer. i want to see how it works on a slightly better computer :D.

Debian has a good PPC port.

Before I got myself a laptop, I was borrowing (no, I didn't steal it, they gave me permission) an iBook from my school. The first thing I did was install Debian on it. That was fun...

Someone write me a PBASIC IDE for Linux...

:p

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Even if Mac computer are "better," what the heck does a professional skateboarder know about computers?

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I'm so tempted to make this joke that I just can't help myself.

Probably next to nothing, which is exactly the audience that Apple goes for...

I kill me.

:p

I can't resist
 

What's the best way to accelerate a mac?

9.8 meters/second/second :D

Haha, in all seriousness I actually like macs, but I won't get one because the college I'm going to go to next year requires me to get a PC Laptop. Oh, and contrary to popular misconception, I've heard that you CAN have a 3-button mouse for macs.

Stephen

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USB is your friend.

Mac OS X has to be the best operating system currently available. It runs on BSD 4.4 core and has the best looking GUI i've ever seen. Its more stable than windows, has great software support, looks better than windows, and most importantly.. ITS UNIX!!.
You also have to admit that those 23" cinema dispalys are pretty sexy..
My only complaint is the one button mouse.. but I can still use my intellimouse explorer.. So its all good.

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At UCLA (where I'm going) there's computer labs in every res hall and tons other places and I don't believe I've seen a single Mac.

I have a kensington Studio Mouse with three buttons and an optical scroll wheel. So yes Macs can have more than one button mouse. It ships with only a one button mouse. There are several venders like Kensington, MacAlly, Microsoft, etc. that sell these multi-button mouse for about $20-$40. Mac OS X comes with native support for a multi-button mouse. Most pros on Macs don't even use the standard mouse.

Most colleges I have seen support both the Mac and Windows systems on their networks. With the newest release 10.2 Jagwire, you have a bunch of cool network features like rendezvous, VPN, networking w/ Windows and whole lot more. http://www.apple.com/macosx/technolo...etworking.html
http://www.apple.com/macosx/jaguar/rendezvous.html

On a side note, here is a editorial from David Courtsey from ZDNet, and some good info on macs:
http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/stor...882357,00.html

Yeah ... even the college I'm going to go to does (VA Tech). More specifically, it's not the college that doesn't allow me to get a mac, it's the college of engineering. Other departments allow you to get one. Interestingly, the computer labs I saw when I visited had all macs (I went to the library, and I hear they have a math lab with all macs).

Stephen

How the heck is a university going to know what OS/comuter you use? I have seen that when looking at colleges but don't quite understand why.

Ohh...
And USB is NOT my friend. Stupid HP Photosmart printer thinking it's so great with completely undocumented linux drivers that do absolutely NOTHING(#$&(#$& *fumes*

Since your a PC user, I'll translate it....

A type 136BI5.6d Error Has Occured
Press ctl + alt + delt to restart
Contact manufacturar if defective

For the rest of us with brains, its compatiablity. Virtual PC, yes, but face it, some places want everyone to be uniform.

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LOL silly physics tie in! Silly Gravity!


OK, I'm just going to come out and say what all of you are really thinking,

ALL COMPUTERS SUCK, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THEY ARE RUNNING!!!!!!!

There I said it, (takes weight off of shoulders)

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Three Dead Trolls in a Baggie - Every OS Sucks

download, listen, love

I aggree wholheartedly!!!!

dang you got this one perfectly.

Though I did once get someone to switch after acting like them :D

I have twice as many PCs as I do macs, but there are 2 reasons I like macs:

1. When you use them they don't keep telling you things (windows xp does this lol.. but it can be configured to stop!)... except in our school's lab, wehere every time you log in you get the windows 2000 introduction thingy
2. When you go to a lab, you don't have to wait (though most labs still use OS 9).

I dunno what to say, mac os x IS unix based so I get all the fun when I'm working on programs and such :)

*shrug* I still have PCs tho, just for the fun of it.

Personnally I think the whole mac vs pc debate is for anyone who really has nothing better to do.

Macs don't suck. They're just different, and that scares people. I started on an Apple IIe (which I still use), moved to a performa 630, got a mac laptop (don't remember the model), and then got my first PC. Even though the PC was over "twice" as fast, in terms of Mhz, it was still about the same in practice as the laptop. I then built my own PC, which more-or-less blows everything else I've ever owned away.

Anyway, in the entire time I've owned all these, I've only had to re-install MacOS from scratch once, and that was after my mom brought home a virus from work on a floppy. On the otherhand, I have done a complete fdisk/format/install of windows at least four times that I can remember, and I've only been using PCs for about 1/3 as long! Even Linux, which I now use almost exclusively, has issues, especially with old hardware. With a Mac, I know that anytime I plug something in, it will work. That's the reason why I told my grandpa to get one of the new iMacs instead of a PC. They are far simpler, more reliable, and easier to get up-and-running. Besides, iPhoto, iDVD, and iMovie are almost worth the price by themselves!

I've had a pc for about three or four years and I've never had to do anything to it except replace the motherboard. It's never given me any problems. I think it depends on how you use it.

I just bought a 17" iMac. (on it now, actually).

/me likes.

aahhhhhh!!!!! no brandon, not you!!!

Why, Mr. Kelly, it's a very nice machine. I want a PowerBook G4 for collage or an iBook G4 is one comes out soon.

/me wants ^-^

Too bad apple did away with the G4 'cubes. Those were just plain cool... an incredibly powerful Mac in an 8" cube.

/me wants a cube too.

4 get all this imac, linux, apple blah blah stuff...
 

DUDE U'R GETTIN A DELL!!!!!!!
sry couldn't resist:D :rolleyes:

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Uh, NO.

http://www.macboy.com/cartoons/switch/dude/index.html

or my personal fav

http://www.macboy.com/cartoons/switch/gates/index.html

Why the cluck would I want a dell when I just (as of 15 minutes ago) finished assembling my new baby- an Athlon XP 2200+ with 512 megs of 400mhz DDR, MSI KT4-Ultra motherboard, 40, 80, and 6 gig hard drives, Sony 2.4x DVD-RW, MSI 48x12x48 CD-RW, GeForce 4 Ti4400 w/128mb DDR, Sound Blaster Audigy Platinum w/ Inspire 5.1 speakers?

What's wrong with being different?

Almost everybody here IS different o_O (that is, from the IN crowd!)

What's the "IN" crowd ;)

those are what they refer to as well, oh, forget it, you wouldn't understand...

lemme summarize it: we're all nerds.. right?! :D

I know, I'm just being a nerd ^.^

wow... uh... macs. where to start?

they're cool :D

I've got a powerbook g4... works great!

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Dude, Ill save a lot of money and build it myself! :D

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Oh yea i 4 got. We shouldn't make fun of "Steve". He has Hyperactive Face disorder:rolleyes: :D
If anybody seen snl last night, they know it was halarious!

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HA HA HA, That guy (seth meyers) went to my high school, so did Adam Sandler

Why make the switch?

Because Macs are easy and people are ignorant and to lazy to learn.

People who are not retarded dont have windows crash on them.

Lets run 3 copys of Kazaa at the same time, it will download faster!
Thats not a cupholder?
You mean I don't just flip the switch on the back to turn it off?
The worst and prolly most common:
Antivirus software? Whats that?

Win2k dosn't crash, until pain is infected upon it by the (l)user.

>SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0
0 rows returned

Dosn't anyone take the time to RTFM?


I happly show people how to use their system better, and fix things when they break them.


Wetzel
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Prolly end up a tech somewhere, fixing Joe Smiths computer because the porn pop-ups that showed up when he went to 'google' won't go away.
Repeatly.

This is true in a sense, people are looking for something "easy to use." However, with OSX, the UNIX factor is thrown in. There is a console in OSX for hardcore Unix/BSD/Linux people out there to play with, and because of it's BSD roots/source, Linux people can have fun playing with differant GUI's, customizing kernels, etc. While on the surface it's easy for even a monkey to play with, the core of OSX is capable of providing fun for hardcore enthusiasts.

This is true as well, most people will do whatever they want and think "system resources? wtf is that? can i get those from a library?" I have seen people use CD-ROM's as cupholders (intentionally mind you, it was a non-functioning unit, and was actually pretty cool). I work for a computer service center, and 90% of the average users out there don't even know there is a switch on the back. If the computer freezes, they unplug it. As for Antivirus software, most people do know what that is. The problem is, they think "more is better." I once serviced a system that "freezes whenever you try to do anything." I turned on the computer, and saw the spashscreens for Norton Antivirus, Norton SystemWorks, McAfee Antivirus, and Trend Micro's PC-Cillin, all on the same machine, a K6-2 400mhz with 64 megs ram. Tell me why it's freezing? As far as viruses go, 95% of the viruses out there have no affect on Mac's at all. Most are win32 based, and therefore will have no bearing on any version of MacOS.

This is also true. Win2k is a great operating system, still my personal favorite of all the Windows OS's. Even though WinXP literally is the same kernel as Win2k, I feel Home Edition is just WinME with a new kernel, and while more stable, it's far from perfect. Pro is better, but still, for an older system (e.g. my laptop, with a 2.1 gig hard drive) 2 gigs is too much for an operating system to occupy. (In perspective my Win2k installtion of literally a year and a half now takes up a mere 750mb). However, a few issues: Windows can only run as stable as the machine it's on. If you have unreliable memory in the system, poom! Down goes windows. (In many cases Win2k or XP won't even boot with unreliable memory, just hang at a blue screen on startup). Also, it is possible to crash 2000 and XP. Maybe not running 3 kazaa's to "download faster," but chatting on AIM, while attempting to render a 3ds Max scene, while creating a new texture map in Photoshop, while running SolidWorks to create the 3d mechanism to import into 3ds Max. Combine this with one minor exception in any given program, and down goes windows, not because of the novice user trying to get more speed out of his 28.8k connection on kazaa, but a hardcore user trying to get work done.

Personally, I'm happy with my PC. It's been operational without a crash-related restart in over a week. (Prior to that it was a month or so, but I rebuilt my system with a new motherboard/CPU) But, I have very much respect for Mac, and in a few more paychecks, will look into a Powerbook G4, or just a G4 in general. Not to "make the switch," but to run 3 different O/S's, simultaneously, to make use of them for what each is generally meant for- Windows for general use/gaming, Linux for servers/fun, Mac for Video Editing/Graphic design.

/me is done ranting for now

I'll probably get an outdated ibook when I go to college provided there is a wireless network available. Laptops are expensive so I'll just get a mediocre one to take notes on or mess around in class with. People say not to get them because they get stolen...but if people are stupid enough to leave them around so they _can_ get stolen, then it's their own fault. I plan on locking mine to my body :P (or possibly a pipe in the dorm room...sleeping with a computer...uhm...hmm)

Nice ones are comming out soon, so stay tuned!

Does nice mean cheap? :) If not, then I'm not getting one of those...hehe. (My PC will be an incredible machine...flat screen, surround sound *drools over klipsch speakers in best buy*, mad graphics card :), and sweet case/proc/other stuff) I don't want to spend over $3000 on all my computer crap. (Hehe...I just got a computer for free...a 486! wow...now all I need are 2 cat5 cables, a power supply for my hub, a PCI graphics card, and some 72pin SIMM's :P...all of which I should be able to get for free. The cat5 cables shall be from the government...hehe)

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Might help us Apple folks if all the school districts and teachers in the entire universe didn't use god forsaken PC's. Hard to do power point on an OSX... :mad:

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Wow, way to revive an old, dead thread!

-dave

p.s. We use PowerPoint with OSX every day, with no problems. I don't mean to say that we enjoy it, but it is useable.