Remember that those 170 theoretical maximum points cannot all be scored by one alliance. If 170 points were to be scored in a match, a minimum of 40 will go to one alliance, and a maximum of 130 to the other. The optimum score would be 86 to 84, and the seeding points for the winning alliance would be 252.

Re: Re: Is 170 total score possible?
 

Uh. That is a viable strategy. While wating in your base for the round to finish, a bot could push your goal into their goal zone. If we can hold on to a goal and use a 20 foot arm to touch our home base, we protect our goal and earn those 20 points. The only thing you have to do is get around the entanglement rule.

I see no reason not to hold Dean to his extra point...

Re: Total Points ... 170 or 172?
 

In update number 1, rule K1 was updated to include "The soccer ball and reflective tape provided are not for use on the robot."
That would seem to proclude using that to score. Or is it really a non-functional decoration, or does scoring points count as a function?

Re: Total Points ... 170 or 172?
 

There is a rule specifically stating that the soccer ball cannot be used on the robot. I dont have the rules in front of me at the moment so I can't tell you exactly where to look but it is in there. My team was a bit dissapointed at this because last year we cut up the big yellow ball and put it on our tires for added traction to get over the ramp. This year we dont have that option.

If it's not in the rules or the updates, don't count on it...I have a feeling the "extra point" he was referring to at kickoff was simply a style/design point, and not actually having anything to do with the score...

Maybe they will put it in the next update....
(Not counting on it, but it would be cool if it could be done.:cool: )

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regarding the 'bot in both zones' policy, we have several fanatics on our team who are desparately trying to get an "extend-o arm" on our robot. So far we have two designs: a scissors-type thing that would have a wheel on the end (you may have seen a coat hanger that has the same principles) or some sort of telescoping arm with a wheel on the end of it (seeing as they have to be touching the zone.) Could either of these break the entanglement rule? I have heard some bickering on the team because of this, and i personally think that it is a really good way of boosting your qualifying points. the team idiot suggested dispatching a remote control car from inside the bot to scamper into a goal zone. you can see why he's the team idiot :rolleyes:

We have a working! steerable mouse thing at the end of a non entaglement-issue teather. It can be done.
Now if only we could get the rest of the robot under weight...

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When properly executed this could be a very viable solution. Gracious Professionalism please...

Tom

How often do you think there will be a non-scoring robot or goal during the matches???

I think it will happen, mostly due to robots holding goals in place. Some cough*116*cough have a runner so they can still score.
And some will just get mixed up, or break on the field out of scoreing zone.

But if you are in both end zones, then it would be 10 points for each alliance right? So where did the 80 points for 4 robots come from?

Red Alliance has four robots in its robot scoring zone, 40 points.
Blue Alliance has four robots in its goal scoring zone, 40 points.
4 points more if Dean sticks to his comment he made durring kickoff, where you would get an extra point if you could get in both zones at once.:)

Erm.. yeah. He actually said that in response to a nice, yet clueless, lady asking if you could put a goal in both zones 2 and 4 at the same time. Which is pretty much impossible unless you bend the PVC or something on opposite sides of the goal into 90-degree angles, and in doing so get yourself DQed.