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MailmanDelivers 31-03-2016 21:12

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MailmanDelivers 31-03-2016 21:13

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Unsure why this uploaded sideways. If you click it the picture is oriented correctly.

Jarren Harkema 31-03-2016 21:23

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It probably has to do something with this: http://rotatemailer.com/sideways-pictures.html

Ari423 31-03-2016 22:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MailmanDelivers (Post 1565902)
This contest is to allow teams to show off innovative ways they dealt with problems that occurred or achieved goals the team had.
The part will be judged based off three criteria: Creativity to solve a problem, elegance of the solution, and complexity.

Is it just me or are elegance of the solution and complexity opposites? To me, the most elegant solution this the least complicated one that gets the job done.

Ben Wolsieffer 31-03-2016 23:03

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The coolest 3D printed parts I've seen this year are 1965's tank tread's. They talked about them in this thread, but I don't think they check CD much. You might want to PM ColmP, and see if they want to submit.

teslalab2 31-03-2016 23:31

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Does it have to be team? Can I post something I made on my personal printer? I would imagine not though.

BBray_T1296 01-04-2016 00:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by teslalab2 (Post 1565947)
Does it have to be team? Can I post something I made on my personal printer? I would imagine not though.

I feel like this challenge is supposed to be 3d printed parts specifically for an FRC team, not just the coolest part made on a 3d printer*.






*It'd have to be pretty good to beat mine

Botwoon 01-04-2016 00:31

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Spot the printed parts ;)


Briansmithtown 01-04-2016 09:31

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On our 2014 robot, we had these cylinder cartridges that were used to hold down our throwing arm(energy stick). They worked ok, but we printed out more just to be safe.

Chris is me 01-04-2016 09:44

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125 is gonna win this one.

2791 has a few cool 3D printed parts too - gearbox covers, a ball cradle, linkages, etc.

JohnFogarty 01-04-2016 13:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1566010)
125 is gonna win this one.

2791 has a few cool 3D printed parts too - gearbox covers, a ball cradle, linkages, etc.

You say that and yet you haven't seen 3824's robot. For those of you that don't know they use an almost entirely 3D printed robot. I don't think they 3D printed everything this year, but I could hazard a guess it's still a lot.

MailmanDelivers 01-04-2016 17:12

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Just to answer a few questions:

You can submit parts for any FRC Game, preferably this year or last years game - sorry, no personal parts!

To further explain one rule, "Teams may only submit once", it's to prevent duplicate entries of the same exact part. Teams may enter multiple parts.


Don't forget to send an email to Contest3D@Ligerbots.com to submit your part or part(s).

lovelj 01-04-2016 22:36

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Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1566111)
You say that and yet you haven't seen 3824's robot. For those of you that don't know they use an almost entirely 3D printed robot. I don't think they 3D printed everything this year, but I could hazard a guess it's still a lot.

Thanks for the honorable mention. After our printed frame cracked week 1 we knew we had to step away, regrettably, from all printed robots. We had a few printed parts for our pickup mechanism but they didn't survive Palmetto. We still have no metal though... All pultruded fiberglass. Fell in love with the stuff. Light and durable.

JohnFogarty 02-04-2016 00:19

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Originally Posted by lovelj (Post 1566315)
Thanks for the honorable mention. After our printed frame cracked week 1 we knew we had to step away, regrettably, from all printed robots. We had a few printed parts for our pickup mechanism but they didn't survive Palmetto. We still have no metal though... All pultruded fiberglass. Fell in love with the stuff. Light and durable.

I might have to ask you sometime about how you did things with the fiberglass. We tried that last year on our Orlando revision of our robot and we didn't have the most fun with it.

lovelj 02-04-2016 05:26

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Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1566370)
I might have to ask you sometime about how you did things with the fiberglass. We tried that last year on our Orlando revision of our robot and we didn't have the most fun with it.

No problem. We used pultruded fiber from Strongwell

http://www.strongwell.com

It's what fiberglass ladders are made of. You can get all sorts of shapes, tubes, sheets, plates... You can drill and cut it like aluminum. It has a high, but directional, specific strength. You can see some of the parts, as well as some printed parts, on our reveal video.

http://youtu.be/nC5Jw_LQt9I

If anyone wants to see our printed bots, they are in this years Behind The Design book.

MailmanDelivers 05-04-2016 15:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari423 (Post 1565940)
Is it just me or are elegance of the solution and complexity opposites? To me, the most elegant solution this the least complicated one that gets the job done.


Sorry for late reply to this - I just realized I didn't answer this in my last post!
For complexity I meant rather the complexity of the task and/or the amount of different ways it can be used. The part could be able to complete multiple tasks - i.e, two birds with one stone. The previous phrasing phrasing was bad, and I have edited in the main post.

trumpthero786 05-04-2016 22:30

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Originally Posted by Botwoon (Post 1565958)
Spot the printed parts ;)

Hmmm, those bevel gears on the intake look printed, along with the guides for the polycord. The wheel hubs look like it as well.

Kellen Hill 07-04-2016 00:17

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I'm a big fan of our encoder mounts this year. The clip just rides between our drive motors and supports our encoders while being retained to the shaft using these clamping couplings from Automation Direct.


louisturbo 07-04-2016 21:23

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I was just wondering if the parts have to currently be on the robot, or can I use ones from a previous iteration? Alternatively, I have a completely 3D printed, .254 scale, model of the robot: would that fit the criteria?

Thanks,

Mike Schreiber 08-04-2016 10:35

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Originally Posted by trumpthero786 (Post 1568280)
Hmmm, those bevel gears on the intake look printed, along with the guides for the polycord. The wheel hubs look like it as well.

Has anyone tried 3D printed bevel gears for a low load high speed application like an intake? We talked about this but we were too nervous about it. I don't know enough about the plastic properties to know if they'd be okay. I know you can buy nylon bevel gears, but I don't know how they hold up.

MailmanDelivers 09-04-2016 10:21

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Originally Posted by louisturbo (Post 1569371)
I was just wondering if the parts have to currently be on the robot, or can I use ones from a previous iteration? Alternatively, I have a completely 3D printed, .254 scale, model of the robot: would that fit the criteria?

Thanks,

The former part works - but the latter not as it did not help you complete/perform a specific task for your robot - but is rather just your robot. Can't wait to see the part(s) you submit!

Cothron Theiss 10-04-2016 11:15

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Originally Posted by Mike Schreiber (Post 1569512)
Has anyone tried 3D printed bevel gears for a low load high speed application like an intake? We talked about this but we were too nervous about it. I don't know enough about the plastic properties to know if they'd be okay. I know you can buy nylon bevel gears, but I don't know how they hold up.

Short answer:
Yes. It works, but it isn't the BEST option.

Long answer:
This year, I prototyped a vertical extension of our horizontal roller intake after bag and tag. I made some 1/2" hex bore spiral bevel gears that transmitted power at a 1:1 ratio at a 90° angle. While the system did work, we ended up not using it due to size, placement, and vulnerability. To get the strength capabilites you need to use for just about anything, even a low torque intake, the gear tooth has to be pretty large. Also, I had to design the gears myself, just because there aren't many resources online that I could find for printed gears. Downloading the files for a gear won't give you the correct tolerances for printing. Had I already not spent some time last semester on how to design spiral bevel gears, I would have had no idea how to do it. Also, I had access to parts printed out of Ultem plastic, which is much stronger than ABS or PLA. In the end, it worked, but not as well as I would have hoped considering the time I put in it.
I would just use the bevel gear from WCP if you can, but I would also love to see somebody refine some designs for printed bevel gears.

MailmanDelivers 17-04-2016 21:59

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If anyone wants to apply their 3D Printed Parts the deadline is this Thursday, April 21st. Remember to also email a picture, render, or the .stp file to Contest3D@ligerbots.com.

We've had great submissions so far, and can't wait to see more!

teslalab2 18-04-2016 00:22

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So I know I cant submit anything because this isn't for a team, but I just had too share this. this is a printed pattern for making a casting out of cast iron. it is 14" diameter +1% to account for shrinkage, sorry for off topic. https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...60&oe=57BC0450

MailmanDelivers 18-04-2016 10:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by teslalab2 (Post 1574590)
So I know I cant submit anything because this isn't for a team, but I just had too share this. this is a printed pattern for making a casting out of cast iron. it is 14" diameter +1% to account for shrinkage, sorry for off topic. https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...60&oe=57BC0450

Don't worry - that's awesome! Do you use it often?

Brandon Holley 18-04-2016 10:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Schreiber (Post 1569512)
Has anyone tried 3D printed bevel gears for a low load high speed application like an intake? We talked about this but we were too nervous about it. I don't know enough about the plastic properties to know if they'd be okay. I know you can buy nylon bevel gears, but I don't know how they hold up.

You can get plastic bevel gears from MCM for fairly cheap: http://www.mcmaster.com/#bevel-gears/=121anop

We've used em for prototyping before, but never on a final robot.

-Brando

MailmanDelivers 20-04-2016 20:13

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Contest is extended until the 30th - the last day of April. Get applying now!

ColmP 22-04-2016 12:24

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Hi Everyone,

Here is the submission from Team 1965, the Firebirds from St. Joseph Prep. HS in Brighton MA.

Over the last few years we have been doing a lot of experimenting with 3D printing. We use PTC Creo and a combination of MakerBot Replicators and older Replicator 2s to build our parts. During this period we have developed enough confidence with this process that we developed a full suspension and tank drive system for the game this year. I have included a few pictures below and after the dust settles I will post the CAD files for all of the parts and assemblies.

The track design was an improved version of what I had posted before. The suspension system was design by a few of our students based on some recommendations from mentors to look at how the 1920's Christie suspension and WW2 sherman tank suspensions worked. It was modified between Northeastern District events to include the extra wheel set on the front bogie to prevent the track from collapsing when going over the rock-wall.

I will get more information posted when I have a moment but feel free to post comments and questions.

Special thanks to the Ligebots in Newton MA that saw our robot at BU and encouraged us to submit this. Pictures are below.

Colm.







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