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Re: The 2056 Streak has ended!

Wow! Awesome streak 2056! Does anyone have any video of the finals matches for Waterloo?

Re: The 2056 Streak has ended!

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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1566658)

I am going to make a bold prediction and say this graph will be different after SVR next week.

SVR is crazy, don't get me wrong, but just because the regional is so much larger, there will be more alliances of teams in qualifications that can't get the capture.

Also- if you wanted to graph events with high capture rates, you should include Finger Lakes. I believe FLR had something like a 25% capture rate, which is nowhere near Waterloo, but nonetheless a point of pride here for how deep the event is almost every year.

Re: The 2056 Streak has ended!

"Sometimes you have to accept it you can't always win." This is how any competition works, this streak will definitely be one of the greatest in FIRST.

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2056 set the gold standard for simplicity, reliability, and consistency. They are one of the best teams in FRC, and will undoubtedly continue to produce amazing results in the future.

On a side note, the new longest active regional streak in FRC belongs to 118 with 12 consecutive regional victories dating back to Lone Star 2012.

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Originally Posted by g_sawchuk (Post 1566654)

I compiled some statistics comparing average breach and capture rates in qualifications for each of the regionals you listed.

I'm a sucker for data, so I got the qual breach and capture rates across all events this season. 2016onwa is #15 in breach percentage and #2 in captures.

Code:

Top 20 events in qual breach rate

  1. 2016ncbui - 87.2549019608

  2. 2016inpmh - 87.1212121212

  3. 2016inwch - 86.8055555556

  4. 2016nyro - 83.5365853659

  5. 2016tnkn - 82.3170731707

  6. 2016iacf - 82.0224719101

  7. 2016cthar - 81.8181818182

  8. 2016wamou - 81.4285714286

  9. 2016mihow - 81.25

  10. 2016mimid - 81.25

  11. 2016pawch - 80.7692307692

  12. 2016paphi - 80.6451612903

  13. 2016miwmi - 80.487804878

  14. 2016wimi - 80.3370786517

  15. 2016onwa - 80.0

  16. 2016ripro - 79.8611111111

  17. 2016miken - 78.75

  18. 2016ilch - 78.1609195402

  19. 2016milsu - 78.0487804878

  20. 2016mabos - 77.5

Top 20 events in qual capture rate

  1. 2016inpmh - 43.9393939394

  2. 2016onwa - 35.3846153846

  3. 2016inwch - 25.6944444444

  4. 2016nyro - 25.6097560976

  5. 2016cthar - 23.6363636364

  6. 2016onnb - 18.75

  7. 2016ilch - 18.3908045977

  8. 2016mihow - 18.125

  9. 2016mabos - 17.5

  10. 2016pawch - 17.3076923077

  11. 2016iacf - 15.7303370787

  12. 2016tnkn - 15.243902439

  13. 2016njbri - 15.0943396226

  14. 2016idbo - 14.1666666667

  15. 2016alhu - 14.1176470588

  16. 2016ohci - 13.2978723404

  17. 2016miken - 13.125

  18. 2016nvlv - 12.7777777778

  19. 2016mimar - 12.5

  20. 2016milsu - 12.1951219512

Script is on GitHub

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Originally Posted by plnyyanks (Post 1566687)

I'm a sucker for data, so I got the qual breach and capture rates across all events this season. 2016onwa is #15 in breach percentage and #2 in captures.

Code:

Top 20 events in qual breach rate

  1. 2016ncbui - 87.2549019608

  2. 2016inpmh - 87.1212121212

  3. 2016inwch - 86.8055555556

  4. 2016nyro - 83.5365853659

  5. 2016tnkn - 82.3170731707

  6. 2016iacf - 82.0224719101

  7. 2016cthar - 81.8181818182

  8. 2016wamou - 81.4285714286

  9. 2016mihow - 81.25

  10. 2016mimid - 81.25

  11. 2016pawch - 80.7692307692

  12. 2016paphi - 80.6451612903

  13. 2016miwmi - 80.487804878

  14. 2016wimi - 80.3370786517

  15. 2016onwa - 80.0

  16. 2016ripro - 79.8611111111

  17. 2016miken - 78.75

  18. 2016ilch - 78.1609195402

  19. 2016milsu - 78.0487804878

  20. 2016mabos - 77.5

Top 20 events in qual capture rate

  1. 2016inpmh - 43.9393939394

  2. 2016onwa - 35.3846153846

  3. 2016inwch - 25.6944444444

  4. 2016nyro - 25.6097560976

  5. 2016cthar - 23.6363636364

  6. 2016onnb - 18.75

  7. 2016ilch - 18.3908045977

  8. 2016mihow - 18.125

  9. 2016mabos - 17.5

  10. 2016pawch - 17.3076923077

  11. 2016iacf - 15.7303370787

  12. 2016tnkn - 15.243902439

  13. 2016njbri - 15.0943396226

  14. 2016idbo - 14.1666666667

  15. 2016alhu - 14.1176470588

  16. 2016ohci - 13.2978723404

  17. 2016miken - 13.125

  18. 2016nvlv - 12.7777777778

  19. 2016mimar - 12.5

  20. 2016milsu - 12.1951219512

Script is on GitHub

Based on that. It looks like IN District - Perry Meridian is the most competitive event so far this year.

Which is not that surprising when you put in perspective that you have teams like 45, 71, 234, 1024, and 1747 just to name a few.

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Originally Posted by serenagh (Post 1566696)

Match Footage for Finals 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuSEPlfoBWw

Incredible. You can feel the tension in the air prior to the score being announced.

Gotta love the blue alliance's drive team all lined up in each other's arms waiting for the score.

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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1566691)

Based on that. It looks like IN District - Perry Meridian is the most competitive event so far this year.
Which is not that surprising when you put in perspective that you have teams like 45, 71, 234, 1024, and 1747 just to name a few.

Many Indiana teams have deep respect for 45 and 234, but they really should not be mentioned in the same category as the other three.... especially when 1501, 135, and 1741 are not mentioned.

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I can't imagine what the energy felt like when finals 3 was announced. Amazing play by the blue alliance and of course to the red alliance. Even though the streak has been broken, it's safe to say that 2056 will hold the record forever of most consecutive regional wins if not a very long time.

-Connor

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Not to totally derail the thread, but does anyone have breach/capture stats for elims? Waterloo has 97% and 63% respectively. I think the Waterloo elims are the highest level we have seen eight elimination alliances play this season.

Back to how insane 2056 is, we got chance to play with them almost a decade ago at IRI 2007. It was amazing then to see a rookie team coming off two regional victories in that season and their run has kept going.

The insane growth in competition in the Ontario region has been the most impressive part of the streak to me. Simbotics and OP helped push the region to improve at such a level that it has really paid off for everyone.

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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1566691)

I'm trying to stay on topic but had to get this little bit in ;). IN is amazing this year on offense. Hardly anyone plays defense in IN. Not even in Elims. I'm not sure if this inflates our statistics (because I'm not really sure how other areas are or aren't using defense) but either way, IN has put up some great teams. Some teams that weren't very good last year just rose up out of nowhere and have put up amazing robots.

Anyway... back to the topic. I didn't believe this at first when my friend texted me this. Way to put up an amazing streak. Maybe now you guys can win a world championship ;). Good luck to you at Worlds and nobody on your alliance should blame themselves for this loss. Some great competition at that event for sure.

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Going off of JackN and not wanting to derail this thread further - but what in the world is going on in Ontario and why is this one area producing so many great teams? Obviously the local FRC structure has struck a chord.

Incredible feat 2056 - their streak was in the face of attending some of the most hotly contested regionals. They did not shy away from competition during the 10 year run. Yes there is some anecdotal stats that could contradict my statement - but to win in any Ontario Regional in the last number of years means you have to go through many local perennial powerhouses as well as some visiting powerhouses.

Congrats to 610, 1241, and 3560 - I am certain that this is one Blue Banner that will mean more than most that you hang.

And of course - congrats to 2056; your streak will be one for the ages - kind of sad to see it end.

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Originally Posted by Chief Hedgehog (Post 1566730)

"If you wanna be the man, you gotta beat the man." Ric Flair. (And Karthik.)

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Originally Posted by M217 (Post 1566564)

Yes, their regional win streak is over, capped off at 23. But they still hold another streak, even more impressive than their regional victories, that I don't think this determined Canadian team will ever lose. They've managed to inspire us, all of us, every single year since their inception. And for that, hats off to OP robotics, perhaps the most inspirational team in FIRST.

It is very likely that "streak" of inspiration that 2056 and 1114 have created lead to...

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Originally Posted by Nathan Streeter (Post 1566588)

The field in Ontario has undergone a tremendous transformation in the last 5-8 years, going from a relatively mediocre middle tier, to a very large number of highly competitive teams.

So I think it is entirely appropriate that 2056 came away with a Chairman's Award. It rewards teams that have succeeded in changing culture. I have to think that raising the bar of the competition in the Toronto Region, consistently, year after year has to count.

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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1566626)

I once again disagree. Waterloo did not IMO have the highest level of play not even close.
Was it high yes highest absolutely not.

What did 2056/1114/5912 "gain". I see 2056 who lost a very long standing streak they showed straight faces on field but lets be real here they are upset. I especially feel bad for the drivers. Then you have 1114 who had their first year without winning a regional. Lastly you have a rookie team 5912 who probably is blaming the loss on them. The only thing I see teams carrying from this is knowing they were part of the reason the streak ended. Even if they really were not.

2056 is an amazing team with an amazing robot this year. The best? no. A championships contender for sure? Absolutely.

What did 148 "gain" by going to Waterloo? I somehow don't think they went to win the "Quality Award". What did 118 gain by going to CTRE? They already had a ticket to Champs then won Rocket City and they are strong favorites to win Lone Star. What did 254 gain by going to Waterloo in 2014? They won a regional before and after Waterloo. All three teams had the opportunity to compete at Sacramento, Central Valley, Alamo, LA, Las Vegas, Dallas and many others. Other than 148 competing at Dallas and Alamo (their "home regional" and one in their "backyard") they chose Waterloo over any others. Having traveled to Toronto many times to visit family and friends, I know the travel cost are typically higher than other US destinations. One also has to deal with Customs and Immigration on both sides of the border and with international shipping for the robot twice. These three teams have long histories of thoroughly analyzing and understanding the issues and acting in appropriate ways. I don't think they went to take advantage of the low Canadian Dollar and to get TimBits. Perhaps they wanted dress-rehearsals for...

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Originally Posted by iVanDuzer (Post 1566633)

Off the top of my head:

Newton 2008 - Semi-finals
IRI 2009 - Quarter-finals
Archimedes 2014 - Quarter-finals

Where most teams only dream of being able to earn the opportunity to compete.