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s_forbes 03-04-2016 22:32

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PayneTrain 03-04-2016 22:32

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Y'all are absolutely crazy. I love it. I caught some of the live stream; let me know if you have any prettier video available.

s_forbes 03-04-2016 22:36

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I should have put a video link in the description... Here's footage of the scaling from the side of the field during semis 1-2 at Las Vegas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojyvzLD55qM

Richard Wallace 03-04-2016 22:56

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It's a mini-bot! :eek:

connoc1 03-04-2016 23:04

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This is awesome! Did it ever miss the bar in matches/practicing on a bar? If it did, did it fall back onto the robot or break the extension length rule? Thanks!

trumpthero786 03-04-2016 23:59

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Built at an event? That's absolutely insane. How does the clamp stay open/shut (more worried about the shut part). Do you have any close up pictures of the system, particularly the rubber bands or latex you were talking about? And then how are you winching up? Is it a PTO or separate gearbox?

I know 118 did it already, but honestly, this one is so much cooler. Amazing work.

BotDesigner 04-04-2016 00:07

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What is terrifying about this is that it could be cheesecaked on almost all stronhold robots. I bet cheesecaked scalers like this are going to be a familiar sight come Champs.

Roboshant 04-04-2016 00:07

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Amazing mechanism! Especially for something done over the course of a competition! Is that a shaft collar being used to attach the fiberglass on to the hook? Also, I'm not a hundred percent sure about this but, one of our mentors said that fiberglass was not legal for use, as it shatters if it breaks and can cause splinters if not handled correctly.

pilleya 04-04-2016 00:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BotDesigner (Post 1567153)
What is terrifying about this is that it could be cheesecaked on almost all stronghold robots.

There are quite a few teams that haven't utilised pneumatics this year, a Servo-motor actuation system could be used as a replacement for pneumatics

MrForbes 04-04-2016 00:17

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heh....if fiberglass were illegal, then a whole bunch of 842's past robots would be illegal! since they had fiberglass chassis

:)

I'm sad I don't get to see it live in action. I guess we need to win so we can go to Champs so I can see it work!

JohnFogarty 04-04-2016 00:25

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I'm confused. How does your hook stay open till it clamps on? I know how the 118 style one works, but this one seems fundamentally different.

s_forbes 04-04-2016 00:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by connoc1 (Post 1567118)
This is awesome! Did it ever miss the bar in matches/practicing on a bar? If it did, did it fall back onto the robot or break the extension length rule? Thanks!

We had a few missed shots (some due to not being able to align correctly, since our bumpers can interfere with alliance partner bumpers when we're all on the batter, and some due to week shots because we didn't load it properly). The climbing rope tends to yank the grappler straight back at the robot, and it doesn't stray far from our frame perimeter. As far as I know we never received a penalty for exceeding the 15" on a missed shot during the Vegas regional.

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Originally Posted by trumpthero786 (Post 1567150)
Do you have any close up pictures of the system, particularly the rubber bands or latex you were talking about? And then how are you winching up? Is it a PTO or separate gearbox?

The best picture I have of the latex is in the image in the first post. On the grappler itself, the latex is looped in a way that keeps the grappler open, but as soon as it hits the pole the claws snap over center and the latex clamps them together.

Our gearbox was a toughbox nano with a 1/2" ratcheting wrench zip tied to the side: http://i.imgur.com/YwcDhV6.jpg

The 1/2" output shaft acts as the spool for the rope.

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Originally Posted by BotDesigner (Post 1567153)
What is terrifying about this is that it could be cheesecaked on almost all stronhold robots. I bet cheesecaked scalers like this are going to be a familiar sight come Champs.

Great minds must think alike! We built a second one during the Vegas regional for cheese caking purposes and bagged it with the robot. :)

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Originally Posted by Roboshant (Post 1567154)
Amazing mechanism! Especially for something done over the course of a competition! Is that a shaft collar being used to attach the fiberglass on to the hook? Also, I'm not a hundred percent sure about this but, one of our mentors said that fiberglass was not legal for use, as it shatters if it breaks and can cause splinters if not handled correctly.

The large shaft collar acts as a clamp to hold the 1/2" hex shaft onto the fiberglass rod. Generally fiberglass material has not been ruled as dangerous by inspectors, especially rods like the ones we used. Teams have been using them for years.

Kevin Sevcik 04-04-2016 00:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnFogarty (Post 1567167)
I'm confused. How does your hook stay open till it clamps on? I know how the 118 style one works, but this one seems fundamentally different.

Open is easy, You can look at it and tell it's an over-center mechanism. The back piece of latex tube would clearly hold it open under tension. I'm more curious about what moves the two halves far enough forward to break-over and snap shut. Is it just inertia when the middle hits the bar?

s_forbes 04-04-2016 00:32

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Originally Posted by Kevin Sevcik (Post 1567171)
I'm more curious about what moves the two halves far enough forward to break-over and snap shut. Is it just inertia when the middle hits the bar?

Yep!

Even if it doesn't hit a bar, the inertia of the two hooks makes them go over center when the grappler reaches the end of the rope.

Boltman 04-04-2016 01:03

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Very cool.

What happens when it misses does it ever have the potential to go outside 15"?

How do you aim it?


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