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86 points! Your team is in, no doubt at all. I expect you'll be a force to reckon with there, as you have been at two events already.

Thanks for pointing out the 8 high goals by 3357. I was so gobsmacked by the furious overall scoring pace in that match that I was not counting for individual robots. Reviewing the video now I see 9 high goals by 2771 (one in auton, eight in teleop), and another 8 high goals by 3357 in teleop. Plus three low goals by 4409. No wonder the score is a record!

As mentioned a few times earlier in this thread, we should look for Code Red to feature prominently in the RoboZone rankings next weekend.

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107 put in 8 high goals, with one in auton. West Michigan SF 2

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At West Michigan match74 team 107 had 10 shots, 1 in auto in the goal out the side ( I think these should be worth 20 pts ,joking !) 3 more in 1 hole out of the other and 7 made. After seeing this past weekend I think 20 high goals at MSC will happen. Also, many of the good shooters will get better and the addition of hanging by these teams will also raise the scores. It will come down to putting the right combination of bots together. I think a low bar cycling robot that mainly plays on left 1/3 on field, combined with good front shooter that is good at defenses playing the middle 3rd and a fast defense killer that can also score if need but mainly keep the defenders off of the shooter and the ability to hang would very tough to beat.

Good luck to the teams attending MSC

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I think this is a defect in the field design, that should be corrected. Like the correction made in 2014 when high goals were bouncing back out during Week 1 events.

I think we will see several alliances working this game plan at MSC.

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I like the concept of the OPS, since neither FiM (district points) score or OPR paints a complete picture (not that any system does).

Every year before MSC and CMP, I come up with my own rating system (WPR = Wayne's Power Rating). The formula is slightly different every year, depending on the game. I normally include just the draft and playoff components of the district score, omit award points, and replace qualification match points with OPR. I normalize and round off the values to yield a final ranking score between 1-10. I think you are kidding yourself if you get beyond 1 or 2 significant digits.

Regarding 2771 and defense - defense will not cause them to lose control of the ball during the "drop". You can't see it on video, but the drop path is protected with a fish line "safety net" that guides the ball into the shooter.

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While they don't lose the boulder when it drops, it does provide a good way of timing when to hit them to throw off their shot.

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Yes, it seems that is the task at hand. :)

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Thanks Mike for the acknowledgment of our system. It is always a great time to play with or against 67. We shot 6 that counted and 2 that passed through. Learning the field "darn chains". We have amped up the code for the shooting solutions from Howell and look forward to showing the kids new work in Ann Arbor. Good luck to all. A special thanks to 4362 the gems for picking us in Howell. They gave us a chance to learn a bit more and made it a good battle against a good alliance captained by 67! Hope we make the points to see you all at states.

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Now that all FiM teams have played twice in Michigan, and pre-DCMP rankings are available, I decided to use the system Wayne described above to calculate a modified OPS. This time it is Selection and Playoff points plus OPR, or SPO. Following Wayne's suggestion, I normalized on a 1-10 scale to give "WPR". The attachment shows details. "Delta" is the number of positions that a team moved relative to official FiM pre-DCMP rank. My Top 25 are:



3536 appears at position 37 on my Pre MSC SPO list, which is 19 slots higher than their official FiM rank. Their normalized "WPR" is 4/10

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MooBotics is 5926

They are not just a great rookie team but one of the most consistent hanging bots!

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Goon Squad is 3604

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Thanks for the corrections. These team numbers are correct in the pdf details, but I was typing too fast in the spoiler.

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Richard, 3536 is happy to hear we are in a pretty good spot on your list. We are cant wait to play with your team and the others at MSC. We have experienced a dismal 33% alliance partner failure rate at AA and still found our way to 10th. We hope with a little luck we will see a improvement in qualifying pairing and shake that statistic. All in all we think we could have a really enjoyable time in Grand Rapids. Our team worked on a whopping 15 robots over the last two events forging ahead to get them in playing form.

Happily we had no systems failures in the last two events even with some strong defense played on us. Surprisingly we even had a team take a "full courtyard run" in the practice matches at AA before the day even started lol.

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Excited to have made the list