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Chris Hapstack 04-04-2016 22:39

pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 

Chris Hapstack 04-04-2016 22:42

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
The overall shape of the gearbox is a little funky – kind of an “L” shape. That’s because the drum of the winch needed to fit down between the drive gearboxes near the center of our robot. There was no room for the 775s there, so we used the gear spacing to move the motors out and up to where there’s more room.

Here’s a video of the winch running (sorry for the vertical orientation – I was caught up in the excitement of the moment): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95u0-QNm7u4

theawesome1730 04-04-2016 22:43

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
What is the material of the white plastic looking gears? Curious why you guys went with those.

Richard Wallace 04-04-2016 22:46

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
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Originally Posted by theawesome1730 (Post 1567720)
What is the material of the white plastic looking gears? Curious why you guys went with those.

They appear to be from a Fisher Price Powerwheels gearbox, which was a staple of the FRC KoP for many seasons. Pretty sure they are nylon.

Chris Hapstack 04-04-2016 22:52

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1567723)
They appear to be from a Fisher Price Powerwheels gearbox, which was a staple of the FRC KoP for many seasons. Pretty sure they are nylon.

They are indeed from a Fisher Price gearbox! Mainly used them because they were lying around, and because they're so light. The first couple iterations of our winch used VersaPlanetaries, but with all VP stuff now out of stock, the only way we were going to get the reduction we wanted in the weight we had to spare was though a custom gearbox. This weighs just about 4 pounds, motors included.

NShep98 04-04-2016 22:52

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
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Originally Posted by Chris Hapstack (Post 1567716)

This is what our climber would look like if it worked consistently.

trumpthero786 04-04-2016 22:59

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
Looks very well built! I love custom gearboxes like this. I'd also love to see the rachet and pawl. It sounds better than using a socket wrench :P Thanks for sharing this!

Gabeman6007 04-04-2016 23:02

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
Looking nice. Can't wait to see it in action at the Michigan championship.

Chris Hapstack 04-04-2016 23:04

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trumpthero786 (Post 1567734)
Looks very well built! I love custom gearboxes like this. I'd also love to see the rachet and pawl. It sounds better than using a socket wrench :P Thanks for sharing this!

No problem! Here's the ratchet attached to 60-tooth gear. Big thanks to our sponsor Lakeshore Cutting Solutions in Zeeland who waterjet cut this for us.

http://i.imgur.com/BVaQa2e.jpg

Chris Hapstack 04-04-2016 23:09

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
A couple more pictures:

Gearbox plates shown with two copies of the ratchet and pawl (why not have an extra just in case?): http://i.imgur.com/JpiDqYV.jpg

Gearbox structure assembled: http://i.imgur.com/oZToaec.jpg

trumpthero786 04-04-2016 23:10

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hapstack (Post 1567744)
No problem! Here's the ratchet attached to 60-tooth gear. Big thanks to our sponsor Lakeshore Cutting Solutions in Zeeland who waterjet cut this for us.

http://i.imgur.com/BVaQa2e.jpg

Ah cool. I see it now in the original picture too. Looks awesome.

pilleya 04-04-2016 23:14

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
Looks great, there is some serious lifting torque produced in that gearbox. Planning on lifting the other alliance members? According to the JVN calc it could lift 3 150lb robots in under 4 seconds:)

Chris Hapstack 04-04-2016 23:18

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Hapstack (Post 1567729)
The first couple iterations of our winch used VersaPlanetaries, but with all VP stuff now out of stock, the only way we were going to get the reduction we wanted in the weight we had to spare was though a custom gearbox.

I should clarify here - the first couple iterations were designed but not built. When we finally got some free time to start building a climber, all the VP stuff had gone out of stock, forcing the redesign.

Chris Hapstack 04-04-2016 23:27

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pilleya (Post 1567755)
Looks great, there is some serious lifting torque produced in that gearbox. Planning on lifting the other alliance members? According to the JVN calc it could lift 3 150lb robots in under 4 seconds:)

Thanks!

The stall load is theoretically right around 1000 pounds, but I think we'll stick to just lifting ourselves so we can keep the current draw at a manageable level haha. Right now we're looking at about 15 amps per motor under the expected load.

Here are the exact numbers if anyone is interested (eternal thanks to JVN):
http://i.imgur.com/kmWySyK.png

(And always obey the curve: http://motors.vex.com/bb-775)

Fusion_Clint 05-04-2016 00:27

Re: pic: Winch-atize me, Cap'n!!
 
Nice, I love the design.

I highly suggest steel gears for the final stage, we were using the vexpro gears and broke several teeth during the Bayou Regional which is the reason we were not able to hang during the quarter finals.

Our stall torque was just slightly higher than your calculated,


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