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AllenGregoryIV 13-04-2016 20:45

Re: Event A/V Wishlist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by plnyyanks (Post 1572770)
If the first thing is already true, we at TBA can work with you to make the second one happen - TBA already has the infrastructure in place for authorized users to write YouTube video links.

When you get closer to your event, send contact@tba an email and ask for write keys, and in the meantime, I'd be happy to help you update however you auto-upload matches to add them to TBA on success. All you need is the YouTube ID and the TBA match ID, along the with access keys for your event.

That's cool, we should probably get this setup with Ty's video splitter, he is getting it setup to be able to take in live clipped matches and live upload them, tag them, and add them to a playlist. We'd only need to add in a place for entering an authorization ID into Video Splitter to have them auto link the videos on TBA.

plnyyanks 13-04-2016 20:54

Re: Event A/V Wishlist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1572778)
That's cool, we should probably get this setup with Ty's video splitter, he is getting it setup to be able to take in live clipped matches and live upload them, tag them, and add them to a playlist. We'd only need to add in a place for entering an authorization ID into Video Splitter to have them auto link the videos on TBA.

Funny you should mention that ;)
https://github.com/tytremblay/FRC-Vi...ter-2/issues/1

He and I will probably get the details sorted out after champs when we both have more time.

Ryan Dognaux 14-04-2016 10:50

Re: Event A/V Wishlist
 
One thing I'd love to figure out how to do is an easy way to do post-match replays & commentary. Think John Madden with the digital write board, being able to mark up the live video but also control stopping & starting a clip from the same interface. I was looking at XSplit's Gamecaster and haven't downloaded it yet, but it looks like their feature is mainly for writing on top of your live video stream.

Probably the most realistic way is having someone at the webcast PC stopping & starting match recordings, and then have those files immediately accessible by another PC that can load them into another application designed for replay & telestration. Anyone have suggestions on applications that do this?

jojoguy10 14-04-2016 10:58

Re: Event A/V Wishlist
 
Prefix: I was video lead for 3 PNW (FirstWA) events

Your requirements and goals seem achievable. Some things to note that we use/do:
  • We use the BlackMagic switcher with a laptop. Because of this, ALL of the inputs MUST be the same resolution. So, make sure your cameras can do 1080p (the FMS, I'm pretty sure, now has the ability to output 1080p). One difference for us is we actually run at 720p because our cameras can only do 1080i60 and 720p30. We go with the 1080i60 because we like the smoothness for this type of game. Also, the delay to the projector is almost zero since we go straight from the switcher to the projectors.
  • With 3 cameras, a Technical Director (TD), DJ, Switcher person, and media person, that's a minimum of 7 people for us (with no breaks). Keep in mind breaks for people if you're thinking about using volunteers.
  • We do use Ustream, but I'm not very sure why. I know Youtube is notorious for blocking out music from our uploaded match videos and I think we do stream to Twitch. We just don't publicise it as much (for some reason)
  • Make sure volume TO the stream is sufficient. One of the worst things I've found (even with some of PNW's streams), is the sent volume is too low, so I end up cranking up my computer volume.....then an ad comes up blowing up my ears. Monitor stream audio :-)
  • I would be careful about "field sound". We thought about doing that (where we would include the field cameras' audio stream). You might pick up some background discussion from the audience or the refs. Just a precaution
  • We also use a stream recording software (BlackMagic Media Express) that is run by a separate laptop that's connected to the same network as the switcher. That's how we record all of the matches (with the switching of cameras and all)
  • As for the cable runs, like Metonym said, you're going to most likely have SDI (Video), XLR (Audio), EIC (Computer/Speaker power), and LOTS of extensions of those three types :-)
  • Finally, "Inexpensive". Normally I would say "Good Luck", but I guess "Inexpensive" is subjective :-)

I'm definitely not the expert on the FirstWA video setup, but I have been helping with it for 3 years now and my dad, Steve Kelly, has been the TD at 4 events this year, and I've been under him for those 3 years as well.

Metonym 14-04-2016 11:57

Re: Event A/V Wishlist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux (Post 1573010)
One thing I'd love to figure out how to do is an easy way to do post-match replays & commentary. Think John Madden with the digital write board, being able to mark up the live video but also control stopping & starting a clip from the same interface. I was looking at XSplit's Gamecaster and haven't downloaded it yet, but it looks like their feature is mainly for writing on top of your live video stream.

Probably the most realistic way is having someone at the webcast PC stopping & starting match recordings, and then have those files immediately accessible by another PC that can load them into another application designed for replay & telestration. Anyone have suggestions on applications that do this?

I know for a fact that it is possible to do this with some football coaching software and preferably a wacom tablet or something similar. I remember gamesense did something similar at Chezy Champs.

My one concern is whether or not you would use the stream video. I wouldn't want to because it wouldn't give you the best view. Ideally you could string up a camera directly above the field with a focal length wide enough to capture everything and minimum distortion, aka not a GoPro. The absolute best setup for this would be a Full Frame camera and an 11 - 14mm fixed focal length lens.

Ryan Dognaux 14-04-2016 12:02

Re: Event A/V Wishlist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Metonym (Post 1573031)
I know for a fact that it is possible to do this with some software and preferably a wacom tablet or something similar. I remember gamesense did something similar at Chezy Champs.

My one concern is whether or not you would use the stream video. I wouldn't want to because it wouldn't give you the best view. Ideally you could string up a camera directly above the field with a focal length wide enough to capture everything and minimum distortion, aka not a GoPro. The absolute best setup for this would be a Full Frame camera and an 11 - 14mm fixed focal length lens.

Yeah, we'd try it on the cheap - so probably just use the recorded stream video. Our setup is pretty ghetto compared to what you guys use, but it still made for decent match video.

protoserge 14-04-2016 13:27

Re: Event A/V Wishlist
 
Get a ground loop isolator or two. I've had to put them inline with FMS audio a few times.

AllenGregoryIV 14-04-2016 14:14

Re: Event A/V Wishlist
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by protoserge (Post 1573074)
Get a ground loop isolator or two. I've had to put them inline with FMS audio a few times.

thanks for the suggestion.

Telestrator
xSplit could do it if you played the replays back through VLC or Media Center Classic, etc.

The biggest issue with something like this and IRI Live and the other HQ broadcasts is getting talented and knowledgeable people to do them. The other issue I see is it works better with high quality robots on the field like IRI and Chesy Champs. Most qual matches at off-seasons are played with little strategic depth to analyze. You need the more interesting alliance oriented matches to really use a feature like this.


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