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Texas UIL State Championship Qualification Information

Qualification Information for the Texas UIL State Championship has been posted on their website.

http://firstintexas.org/uil/qualification/

Looks like round up will only have 10 spots for teams that have any students who aren't enrolled in a UIL school. I'm interested to see how they go about choosing those teams.

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Has anyone calculated the Texas rankings ?

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I'm hoping someone will,but I'll have time tomorrow to do it if it's not done yet.

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Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1572985)

Has anyone calculated the Texas rankings ?

I *think* 118, 148, and 3310 have "perfect event scores" on average in texas (# 1seed, win playoffs). They both won WFFA so they edge us out there, and then when you go down the tiebreakers all the way to "highest match score" 118 beats out 148.

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Originally Posted by JohnSchneider (Post 1573003)

Please note two things. From the admin manual and the announcement, points are only awarded for Team awards, so WFFA and Deans List don't add 5 points. From the FIRST in Texas announcement, note that the event scores are averaged. That means 148 isn't quite "perfect" since they were not the 1 seed at the end of qualifications in Dallas.

For the record, thebluealliance API feature that calculates District Points for an event works for regionals too.

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Originally Posted by jee7s (Post 1573008)

For the record, thebluealliance API feature that calculates District Points for an event works for regionals too.

The API from TBA doesn't seem to factor in Team Age per Admin Manual section 7.4.1.5.

For example, sending a request for Utah, you'll see this in the middle of the output:

Code:

"frc5933": {

      "alliance_points": 11,

      "total": 53,

      "award_points": 8,

      "elim_points": 20,

      "qual_points": 14

    },

But they're rookies and are supposed to get 10 points in their rookie year. I probably missed something obvious.

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3481 is a diverse team with a good amount of non-UIL students (private school and home schooled) in addition to our Northside ISD UIL-eligible students.

I guess we're NOT eligible for the potential UIL recognition because we're a _mixed-bag_.

AND I guess we're relegated to one of the ten "wait-list" openings.

Am I the only one who thinks this sucks?

A student is a student--period.

What we're doing here in Texas competition robotics is creating a class-system of first-class teams and second-class teams.

HOW that's _better_ is beyond my ability to comprehend and either my brain is much smaller than the big-brains that put this together or _maybe_ those who did this may be blinded by the supposed BIG team numbers growth this will supposedly spur, and that may happen, but _excluding_ ANY Texas FIRST student from _anything_ as if they're second-class is NOT something we should be doing.

--Michael Blake

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Originally Posted by s1900ahon (Post 1573024)

But they're rookies and are supposed to get 10 points in their rookie year. I probably missed something obvious.

calculating total points is different from event points - every team's event point calculation is identical, the rookie bonus is added on at the very end. Otherwise district calculations would give rookies the bonus twice, once for each event.

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Here is what I came up with the data from thebluealliance, this is not an official document of any kind.

Attachment 20599

The team average was derived from the first 2 Texas events that the teams attended.

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s1900ahon, team Age is added to overall score not per event.

I am unsure if teams at Texas events get 5 points for a Chairman's/EI/RAS and then bonus points on top of that or just the bonus points. Also I don't know if winning EI or Chairman's twice gives double points, but I gave 2881 the extra points anyways.

Here is the list by the UIL rules, per the assumptions above. Note, this list doesn't take into account tiebreakers or eligibility. Also I may have missed awards outside of Texas.

Code:

Rank         Team         Points

1                 118                  73.0

1                 3310                73.0

3                 148                 72.0

4                 4587                71.0

5                 4063                64.0

6                 1296                60.0

6                 2468                60.0

8                 5431                58.5

9                 231                  57.0

10                 3005                56.5

11                 1477                53.5

11                 2848                53.5

13                 5726                52.0

14                 624                 51.5

15                 6171                50.0

16                 57                   46.0

16                 3847                46.0

18                 6133                45.5

19                 5775                44.0

20                 5572                43.0

21                 2158                42.3

22                 2881                42.0

22                5057                42.0

24                 5829                39.0

25                 4301                38.0

26                 5417                37.5

27                 6144                36.0

28                 3679                35.0

28                 5986                35.0

30                 3481                33.5

30                 3802                33.5

32                 2583                32.0

33                 2805                30.0

34                 5892                29.0

35                 5414                28.5

36                 3366                28.0

37                 2789                27.0

37                 3743                27.0

39                 3999                26.5

39                 4639                26.5

41                 3355                26.0

41                 4192                26.0

41                 4364                26.0

41                 5411                26.0

45                 418                 25.5

46                 4694                25.0

46                 5242                25.0

48                 2587                24.0

48                 2882                24.0

48                 3676                24.0

48                 5981                24.0

48                 6196                24.0

53                 3735                23.3

54                 6155                23.0

55                 5754                22.0

55                 6111                 22.0

55                 6126                22.0

55                 6235                22.0

59                 5427                21.0

59                 5771                21.0

59                5866                21.0

59                5923                21.0

59                6172                21.0

64                5416                20.0

64                5639                20.0

64                6051                20.0

67                704                 19.0

67                1745                19.0

67                5888                19.0

70                5894                18.0

71                647                 17.0

71                5682                17.0

71                5739                17.0

71                5908                17.0

71                5960                17.0

76                457                 16.0

76                1255                16.0

76                4076                16.0

76                6180                16.0

80                3741                15.0

81                2613                14.0

81                2969                14.0

81                3103                14.0

81                5503                14.0

81                5681                14.0

86                4332                13.0

86                5103                13.0

88                1642                12.0

88                2721                12.0

88                2950                12.0

88                3545                12.0

88                4295                12.0

88                4298                12.0

88                4610                12.0

88                4734                12.0

88                5052                12.0

97                3305                11.0

97                3345                11.0

97                3561                11.0

97                4155                11.0

97                5212                11.0

102                3335                10.5

102                4300                10.5

104                3029                10.0

104                3035                10.0

104                3240                10.0

104                5241                10.0

108                441                9.0

108                653                9.0

108                3043                9.0

108                3728                9.0

108                5070                9.0

108                5261                9.0

114                2582                8.0

114                3350                8.0

114                4219                8.0

114                4328                8.0

114                4570                8.0

114                5566                8.0

120                4641                7.5

121                2585                7.0

121                3282                7.0

121                3370                7.0

121                4696                7.0

125                1817                6.5

126                2897                6.0

126                3700                6.0

126                4378                6.0

126                4412                6.0

126                4799                6.0

126                4852                6.0

132                2966                5.0

132                3997                5.0

132                4717                5.0

132                5047                5.0

136                3037                4.0

136                3417                4.0

136                3834                4.0

136                4206                4.0

140                4597                3.0

Re: Texas UIL State Championship Qualification Information

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Originally Posted by itsjustmrb (Post 1573038)

Here is what I came up with the data from thebluealliance, this is not an official document of any kind.

You can remove 3481 from the listing as per...

"32 UIL eligible FIRST Robotics Competition teams will qualify based on their performance at all their FIRST Regional competitions in Texas (See Qualification section below). An additional 10 spots will be reserved and allocated by the event planning committee. In total, 42 FIRST Robotics Competition teams will compete at this event."

Since we're NOT "UIL eligible" because of our mixed-bag of public-private-home school students we can only hope and pray we get one of those coveted 10 spots reserved for the newly created structure of second-class student teams.

--Michael Blake

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I think it would be reasonable for us to collect the list of teams who have any non-UIL students on them.

I know 3847, 3481, 5829, & 3103 all have non-UIL students, which other teams fall into this category?

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Originally Posted by AllenGregoryIV (Post 1573049)

Add 3997 Screaming Chickens here in San Antonio.

--Michael Blake

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Looking at the Texas District Rankings really highlights why Texas Districts need to happen.

Great teams like 624 and 2158 likely would qualify for championship if the district model was in place.

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Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1573053)

Looking at the Texas District Rankings really highlights why Texas Districts need to happen.

Great teams like 624 and 2158 likely would qualify for championship if the district model was in place.

AGREED, Andrew... DISTRICT MODEL _next_ year!!

Let's just get there for crying out loud... pick a date and execute it.

And let's move away from this tiered eligibility list for TRR or _anything_ FIRST competition robotics related that involves _exclusion_ of private and home school students--it's just NOT right.

--Michael Blake