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Melissa Nute 05-12-2002 12:15

Quote:

Originally posted by chellyzee93
yeah, that whole boy thing. Why are guys so dumb when it comes to girls?

<------ is bewildered

b/c it is their nature...
or at least that is how ricky explained it to me...

Marc P. 05-12-2002 17:59

As a guy I can only speak for myself through observation of what can be considered the "typical" American guy stereotype (Abercrombie sweatshirts, jeans, jock, etc)


Guys are extremely emotionally sensitive, moreso than women, despite what behavior or reactions may dictate. They need to feel they belong to something, a close friendship, romantic relationship, or some form of team (sports, robotics, etc). They find serenity of the mind in numbers. They feel they are at their best when demonstrating a certain skill or talent in conjunction with others, proving their "worth" to each other. When it comes to women though, they sometimes feel their "worth" or friendships are threatened, when the need arises to devote a majority of attention to a certain individual, of the opposite sex in most but not all cases. This upsets the balance in the mind of the guy, and results in erratic behavior, unlike himself, which is usually the opposite of what the woman desires. It's all in the subconscious, so he's completely unaware of anything that happens, and is unable to control it, unless he happens to be an extremely strong willed character.

All of this comes from theory, formulized by 7 years of watching people of my gender forge and destroy relationships with friends, girls, family, etc. so I have no idea what's fact, fiction, or both. Anyone care to share their thoughts?

Melissa H. 05-12-2002 19:25

Quote:

Originally posted by Marc P.
As a guy I can only speak for myself through observation of what can be considered the "typical" American guy stereotype (Abercrombie sweatshirts, jeans, jock, etc)


Guys are extremely emotionally sensitive, moreso than women, despite what behavior or reactions may dictate. They need to feel they belong to something, a close friendship, romantic relationship, or some form of team (sports, robotics, etc). They find serenity of the mind in numbers. They feel they are at their best when demonstrating a certain skill or talent in conjunction with others, proving their "worth" to each other. When it comes to women though, they sometimes feel their "worth" or friendships are threatened, when the need arises to devote a majority of attention to a certain individual, of the opposite sex in most but not all cases. This upsets the balance in the mind of the guy, and results in erratic behavior, unlike himself, which is usually the opposite of what the woman desires. It's all in the subconscious, so he's completely unaware of anything that happens, and is unable to control it, unless he happens to be an extremely strong willed character.

All of this comes from theory, formulized by 7 years of watching people of my gender forge and destroy relationships with friends, girls, family, etc. so I have no idea what's fact, fiction, or both. Anyone care to share their thoughts?

Whoa.:eek: A lot of thought was put into this...

Reed B. 05-12-2002 21:48

Psychology make brain hurt.

My take on the whole thing is that guys and girls are about as emotional, but girls are more subtle with signals. Also, guys dealing with girls can be bad straits, especially when the girls in an area have set up a psychic network of sorts. In other words, say something to a girl and half the female population will know it in an hour. This does not make for good conditions to ask a girl out if you're timid.

-Reed
"I haven't even told you about my dream yet."
"Freud never bothers with details."

Ricky Q. 06-12-2002 10:55

Quote:

Originally posted by Meli W.

b/c it is their nature...
or at least that is how ricky explained it to me...


Well its true, I'm good at explaining why we are dumb, and I can give examples of it most of the time too :p

It's just the way it is, we have our moments....

Shelley_delphi chick 06-12-2002 14:36

Through a females eyes........
 
[color=teal]Wow......Marc put alot of thought into what he had to say, but I dunno if everything is true. Girls have a shy timid side as well. There are some girls that can't walk up to a jock and say hi in the hall and there are some jocks that have their heads all up on the cheerleaders/majorettes grill. I'm not sure that high school guys have everything straight and I'm not sure that girls do either. I'm an 18 year old female and a senior in high school, but I'm not sure that guys ever truely feel like they are secure where they are at. I mean guys compete everyday over the stupiest things and they will continue to do that the rest of their lives. I dunno.........I'm not good with words and maybe there are some girls out there that can put into words what we go through with guys!! I'll try and maybe post on here later tonight.


< laughs........maybe I might be implying something........laughs>

Bob Merkel 07-12-2002 23:11

I didn't realize that there was a consistancy between all girls!

Shelley_delphi chick 07-12-2002 23:31

girls.......
 
Yeah we sometimes think on the same lines every once and a while!! Although some might stray alittle here or therewe all pretty much are around the same issues. Unless your popular or a cheerleader or majorette you don't dare to dream about talking to a joke....oh wait jock there we go. I guess what I'm saying is we all have some insecurities when it comes to the opposite sex and how we feel.

Kristina 08-12-2002 00:27

Re: girls.......
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Shelley_delphi chick
Yeah we sometimes think on the same lines every once and a while!! Although some might stray alittle here or therewe all pretty much are around the same issues. Unless your popular or a cheerleader or majorette you don't dare to dream about talking to a joke....oh wait jock there we go. I guess what I'm saying is we all have some insecurities when it comes to the opposite sex and how we feel.
I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. During high school I wouldn't consider myself "popular." But I was friends with a lot of these people considered jocks. Sure they may have put sports over school and may not have been that smart but not all of them are jerks. Hey, sometimes people just focus on what they're good at. Time to put stereotypes aside because there are a lot of jerks in every group. I mean how many "geeks" do you know who are annoyingly pompous about their intelligence. Also time to put insecurties aside because you may never know who you're missing out on.

Oh..and as for Marc P's post...wow, very insightful and true, at least from my experience.

Marc P. 08-12-2002 08:37

Another observation- Socially I believe guys (again, of the stereotypical abercrombie all American brand) are more exclusive than girls, e.g. a certain social group/clique of guys is far less likely to associate with any other group, or individual which is considered "uncool" or "stupid" by that group. Females tend to be more open and will associate, within considered reason, with virutually anyone, particularly if emotional distress is evident. Example- nerdish guy is dumped by his girlfriend and is curled up in a ball in the corner of the hallway crying. Social group of guys walks by making jokes about him, laughing, and moving along. Group of girls walks by, and if not in practice, statistically they are more likely to stop and talk to him to find out what the problem is. Again, this is speaking generally from observation, and I'd appreciate anyone who can share their thoughts/insight/experience.

Shelley_delphi chick 08-12-2002 15:09

...............
 
very true............

MattK 08-12-2002 17:02

Quote:

Originally posted by Marc P.
Another observation- Socially I believe guys (again, of the stereotypical abercrombie all American brand) are more exclusive than girls, e.g. a certain social group/clique of guys is far less likely to associate with any other group, or individual which is considered "uncool" or "stupid" by that group. Females tend to be more open and will associate, within considered reason, with virutually anyone, particularly if emotional distress is evident. Example- nerdish guy is dumped by his girlfriend and is curled up in a ball in the corner of the hallway crying. Social group of guys walks by making jokes about him, laughing, and moving along. Group of girls walks by, and if not in practice, statistically they are more likely to stop and talk to him to find out what the problem is. Again, this is speaking generally from observation, and I'd appreciate anyone who can share their thoughts/insight/experience.
I think that is acurate...
Girls have motherly instincts where Guys have more fighting instincs

Marc P. 12-12-2002 21:27

Lousy sociological stereotypes *shakes fist at the world*

Shelley_delphi chick 14-12-2002 23:23

TLC.......
 
I just saw an add for a special on The Learning Channel, that is supposed to be a two part special on the differences between guys and girls. I think it sounds interesting and I will be sure to watch it!! Guys feel the need to compete that makes them feel special, but you ahve to figure that girls compete as well. I mean make-up, clothing, how high skirts are and how low tops go, I mean guys competing is the same as a girl flirting?!? Just my added cents!!

Johca_Gaorl 15-12-2002 00:54

If it's on TLC late, you might wanna watch out for nudity...


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