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Greg Needel 24-04-2016 18:25
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BMSOTM (Post 1578232)
The issue with using qualification rank to assess team strength is that strength of schedule and luck with alliance partners can bias results. Just last weekend, 1257 seeded 52nd of 60 teams at MAR CMP. We averaged of five low goals in a match, and maximum of seven, but had bad luck in quals with alliance partners losing comms and such. 225 (who told me their scouting does not consider qualification rank) and 341 picked us for what we could do, and we won the event.
This is exactly my problem with all of the pre-scouting ranks, especially if you use OPR. None of them assess individual robot ability relative to the other teams in the division. Since OPR is based on the performance relative to the individual event, you seeded #1 at a week event then you will have a high OPR if you seeded #13 at MSC yours will be lower. Which of those teams has a better robot? Were events primarily won by low goal bots or was it a high goal shoot out?

My strong recommendation to all the teams looking at the division is to WATCH MATCHES. Make your own determination as to the scoring capacity of each team, and do your ranks that way.

I would prefer to see the list of "best high goal shooters", "best low goal shooters", "best autonomous modes" teams with most consistent hangers, etc.


I know much of these public lists are just time killers waiting on Wednesday, so it doesn't matter much. I would just be hesitant to use any of this for pre-match strategy if you expect good results.

Bevo120 24-04-2016 19:03
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Team #4335 Metallic Clouds wishes everyone safe travels to First Championships.... Weather looks terrible Tuesday over the Midwest. (We are driving the tornado route from Waco Texas to St. Louis.) Please be careful and we can't wait to meet you!

pavong 24-04-2016 19:14
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by staplemonx (Post 1578228)
Our first list was focused more on probable ranking points at the end of each match.
Us not showing up on that list makes perfect sense as we only managed to capture and obtain all 4 ranking points in a single one of our 9 matches at the Montreal regional.

mackenzieg 24-04-2016 21:10
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Team 1261 is excited to be in Curie this year!

If you're interested in our robot, feel free to check out our new and improved reveal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVnNrP4vO7A

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Ben Martin 24-04-2016 23:55
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BMSOTM (Post 1578232)
The issue with using qualification rank to assess team strength is that strength of schedule and luck with alliance partners can bias results. Just last weekend, 1257 seeded 52nd of 60 teams at MAR CMP. We averaged of five low goals in a match, and maximum of seven, but had bad luck in quals with alliance partners losing comms and such. 225 (who told me their scouting does not consider qualification rank) and 341 picked us for what we could do, and we won the event.
We calculated an average of 5.5 low goals

Curie teams, be wary. I knew these guys were our top low goal bot after 25 on Friday night, and I thought we might have a shot at playing with them because people would overvalue shooting and scaling (and I was right). Somebody is going to snatch them up if you don't, and if they play defense again, you'll be on the receiving end. Top-notch play, watch the MAR Champs playoffs.

Kristian Calhoun 25-04-2016 00:21
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben Martin (Post 1578513)
We calculated an average of 5.5 low goals

Curie teams, be wary. I knew these guys were our top low goal bot after 25 on Friday night, and I thought we might have a shot at playing with them because people would overvalue shooting and scaling (and I was right). Somebody is going to snatch them up if you don't, and if they play defense again, you'll be on the receiving end. Top-notch play, watch the MAR Champs playoffs.
Curie teams have nothing to fear—1257 is in Archimedes. :)

Ben Martin 25-04-2016 00:22
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kristian Calhoun (Post 1578530)
Curie teams have nothing to fear—1257 is in Archimedes. :)
My bad :rolleyes:

OccamzRazor 25-04-2016 09:09
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
This is going to be a blast! So...what is the plan to beat Newton division? :)

Greg Needel 25-04-2016 09:27
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OccamzRazor (Post 1578630)
This is going to be a blast! So...what is the plan to beat Newton division? :)
The newton finals should be so intense that maybe all the robots will be tired by the time they get to Einstein, so it will be easy to beat sleepy robots :D

Ryan Dognaux 25-04-2016 09:31
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
4329 is looking forward to playing with and against a bunch of teams we've never met before!

Though we didn't have much time for improvements, we've made a few that focus on reducing our cycle times and improving our high goal shot consistency.

We also only weigh 90 pounds, use the kit bot chassis and already use pneumatics. We think we'd be a great robot for cheesecake and are always open to discussing this with teams. We have a hang / defense module of our own as well but it takes away our low bar capability.





See you all in a few days! Feel free to stop by and say hi.

b1nary 25-04-2016 09:33
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux (Post 1578643)
4329 is looking forward to playing with and against a bunch of teams we've never met before!

Though we didn't have much time for improvements, we've made a few that focus on reducing our cycle times and improving our high goal shot consistency.

We also only weigh 90 pounds, use the kit bot chassis and already use pneumatics. We think we'd be a great robot for cheesecake and are always open to discussing this with teams. We have a hang / defense module of our own as well but it takes away our low bar capability.

See you all in a few days! Feel free to stop by and say hi.
bump! looking forward to meeting new people and robots. (:

OccamzRazor 25-04-2016 11:02
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux (Post 1578643)
4329 is looking forward to playing with and against a bunch of teams we've never met before!

Though we didn't have much time for improvements, we've made a few that focus on reducing our cycle times and improving our high goal shot consistency.

We also only weigh 90 pounds, use the kit bot chassis and already use pneumatics. We think we'd be a great robot for cheesecake and are always open to discussing this with teams. We have a hang / defense module of our own as well but it takes away our low bar capability.





See you all in a few days! Feel free to stop by and say hi.

Looks like your robot has a nice flat space for an extra climber......I wonder if anyone in Curie is bringing one of those:rolleyes:

Our entire system weighs 15lbs, has successfully been cheesecaked one time after passing inspection this season, and can lift a 160 pound bot. If our alliance partner had made it to the batter during finals in the NC Campbell event I feel it would have worked great for them like it has for us.

Charles Boehm 25-04-2016 11:11
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Team 2175 is excited to compete with all of the Curie division. Lots of new teams to meet(all but 2 for me; shout out to my MN friends 2220 and 2883!)

BethMo 25-04-2016 11:14
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan Dognaux (Post 1578643)
4329 is looking forward to playing with and against a bunch of teams we've never met before!
Those are some awesome pictures, Ryan! They're going in my "show relatives what this game is about" folder.

JohnSchneider 25-04-2016 11:34
Re: 2016 Curie Subdivision
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by OccamzRazor (Post 1578630)
This is going to be a blast! So...what is the plan to beat Newton division? :)

2013 curie was pretty stacked...


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