Gitchi Gummi Get-Together 2016
 

Please join the Duluth East Daredevils at the 2016 Gitchi Gummi Get Together! This friendly summer competition is a fun, constructive place to help teams stay active through the summer months. Here, we get together to practice driving, get to know each other better, and enjoy the great city of Duluth!

Questions? Email us at daredevils2512@gmail.com and register at http://www.daredevils2512.org/events...-get-together/

We hope to see you there!


What: Gitchi Gummi Get Together

When: July 29-30, 2016

Where: Lincoln Park Middle School 3215 W 3rd St, Duluth, MN 55806

Registration fee. $200.00

Food costs: Dinner will be provided @ $10 on Friday. Lunch is $5 Saturday.

Housing: Housing is available at UMD. The cost is 32$ a night per room, two occupants per room.

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Remember to sign up for this event. Last year was exciting and had some great competition, this year we hope to have more of the same.

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We are interested. When is the deadline to register ? How many teams is the max? Who has registered so far?

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We need people to register by about June 25th. We have a maximum of 18 teams this year, and only one team, 93, has registered so far.

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857 is planning to come, I just need to figure out room and lunch numbers first.

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18 - why is this? Is it more about room?

4607 is interested but we will not know until a little later on.

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I set a dead line for 3244 to let me know who will be coming with us by May 25. I will then register our team.

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We won't have the space this year for more pits, but next year we hope to expand to 24.

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I have a quick amendment to this, if you register after June 25th you will not be able to stay at UMD, as they need the number of rooms by then. If you register after you are responsible for finding your own place to stay. However, please be smart about it and try to get registered before then either way, it will make organization much easier.

Hotels in Duluth can get relatively expensive in summer, so if your team wants to stay at a hotel instead of camping or staying at UMD, it would be prudent to register sooner.

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Camping .. do you have any suggestions? ??
Thanks

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2169 has stayed at the Spirit Mountain camp grounds in the past. Nice place. And not too far from Duluth East High School.

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Unfortunately we were unable to reserve the high school this year so it will be at Lincoln Park Middle School, which is closer to the Spirit Mountain campgrounds anyways :]

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Oh ok. Thanks!
(Maybe I should have reread your first post::rtm::)

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it turns out that there was a mix-up in communication, we would actually prefer if teams could be registered by June 15th if they want to use the UMD housing.

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Just under a month left register! We still have some spaces left.

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How many teams are currently registered?
(Sorry if this is already posted somewhere, I could not find it.)

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We've got about 5 teams registered so far.

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We have 13 teams registered. This means we have 5 spaces left. Please be registered by June 15th if you want to use the UMD housing. Even if you won't be using the housing, try to register by then anyways.

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2175, 4480, 876, 857, 3102, 3275, 3244, 3883, 3184, 1816, 93, and 2512 are registered. We have space for 5 more teams. Register as soon as possible if you want a space.

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I'm happy to see our number in the list. I been and am still waiting to receive my confirmation email so I can pay. Can't wait to make the trip this summer.

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That's odd, I'll talk to our head coach and see what's going on there. We'll try and get that email to you as soon as possible.

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Thanks is a relief to find life. We wish to utilize the UMD housing. I think we asked for 4 student and 4 mentor rooms

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Has anyone else not received an email yet? We're working on getting them out and we want to make sure we got everyone.

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Team 3184 - Burnsville Blaze registered, but we have never gotten a confirmation. Can you confirm that we are signed up?

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Are there rules that very from the official FRC rules for this event?

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We don't intend to make any major changes to the rules at this point.

We were hoping to get tower strength back down to 8, but unfortunately we can't. We have been looking at possible alternatives to the Portcullis that we could build, but we haven't yet decided if we will go that route or if we'll just leave the Cheval as a static defense.

A note about inspections: We won't be forcing teams to do inspections, it's going to be an on-your-honor system. If you've made changes since your last official event, we request that you be inspected again, but if not, you don't need to be inspected.

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Didn't get confirmation yet also. We requested umd rooms as well and are ready to pay.
Thanks

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Our apologies to those who haven't received emails yet. It seems that we didn't have a specific person in charge of sending them out, so that didn't get done.

Our team co-captain has now sent them out to everyone.

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Thanks

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We got our email but no bill.

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We now have 18 teams signed up! It's a huge jump from two years ago at the first event where we were struggling to get enough teams to even hold an event. Any rule updates will be posted in the near future.
2175 The Fighting Calculators
4480 UC-Botics
876 Thunder Robotics
857 Superior Roboworks
3102 Tech No Tigers
3275 Regulators
3244 Granite City Gearheads
3883 Data Bits Cotta
3184 Blaze Robotics
1816 The Green Machine
2846 FireBears
4656 Rock Solid Robotics
2169 KING TeC
4009 DNA
2177 The Robettes
93 New Apple Corps

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Rules question. Did I see it somewhere that we can have an additional 5lbs on the bot for a 125lbs limit? or maybe that was some other event? We would like to shore up a part on our bot but the last official weigh-in we were 119.5 lbs. The upgrade would tip us over. I'm not to sure if there is many places to get the weight back down.

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We have allowed an additional 5 lbs at the Gitch in the past, but this year we decided not to do so, as most other off-season events do not allow you to do this. On the other hand, we aren't going to be overly strict about ensuring that robots aren't over 120. As long as you aren't going over by more than a pound or two, you should be fine.

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I'm thinking we are going to tip toe the line.

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I know this list isn't totally complete I probably missed a few things, but we got some excellent teams attending this event. I look forward to seeing all of them and I think it will be a lot of fun.



2175 The Fighting Calculators -- 2016 Curie gracious professionalism award , 2014 Archimedes

4480 UC-Botics

876 Thunder Robotics --2016 Curie finalist industrial design award, 2015 Galileo engineering inspiration award

857 Superior Roboworks -- 2016 FIM semifinals creativity Award Team Spirit award, 2015 Archimedes, 2014 Galileo

3102 Tech No Tigers -- 2016 Archimedes MN state championship design award industrial safety award, 2015 industrial safety award

3275 Regulators -- 2016 North star quarter finals

3244 Granite City Gearheads -- 2016 10000 lakes quarter finals

3883 Data Bits Cotta -- 2016 MN Northstar quarter finals

3184 Blaze Robotics -- 2016 Iowa and 10000 Lakes quarter finals, 2015 Tesla

1816 The Green Machine -- 2016 Lake Superior semi finals Minnesota state championships first Dean's List, 2015 Einstein, 2014 Archimedes

2846 FireBears -- 2016 Carver industrial safety award team spirit award, 2015 industrial design award

4656 Rock Solid Robotics -- 2016 Northern Lights quarter finals Minnesota state championships, 2015 first Dean's List

2169 KING TeC -- 2016 Illinois and Minnesota North Star quarter finals first Dean's List entrepreneurship award, 2015 Hopper engineering inspiration industrial design 2014 Curie image award Chairman's award entrepreneurship award Team Spirit award

4009 DNA-- 2016 Galileo Minnesota state championships engineering inspiration award, 2015 innovation in control award

2177 The Robettes-- 2016 Woody flowers, 2015 Dean's List 2014 Einstein Dean's List Galileo division


93 New Apple Corps-- 2016 Illinois's quarterfinals gracious professionalism Team Spirit, 2015 Carson gracious professionalism 2014 gracious professionalism

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We where just discussing tonight that we will be in the presents of great teams. Going to learn allot.

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As we were going over the teams today, it came to our attention that we only have 17 teams including ourselves. We had an error with our spreadsheet, and we accidentally had a duplicate that nobody caught. This means we have one space left open! The site should have the application up. If your team didn't get signed up but wanted to, you have another chance. Sign up as soon as you can, though. We still need to get rooming information to UMD as soon as possible.

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This space has now been filled by 5232. The list has been changed a couple of times, so here are the teams.
5232 Talons
2175 The Fighting Calculators
4480 UC-Botics
876 Thunder Robotics
857 Superior Roboworks
3102 Tech No Tigers
3275 Regulators
3244 Granite City Gearheads
3883 Data Bits Cotta
3184 Blaze Robotics
1816 The Green Machine
2846 FireBears
4656 Rock Solid Robotics
2169 KING TeC
4009 DNA
2177 The Robettes
2500 Herobotics
2512 Duluth East Daredevils

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We have finally finalized the rule changes for the Gitchi Gummi Get-Together!

We are making a change to rule G38: Driving over or getting stuck on a boulder while holding another is not a violation of G38, as long as there is no intent to move it in order to score points.


Change to 5.4.4: In the event of a tie in playoffs, the match will be replayed, not decided via 5.4.4.


We have also decided to add 15 seconds to the Teleop portion of the match. This is for a couple of reasons. The tower strength is permanently raised to 10 from Worlds, and we don’t want this competition to be terribly competitive. The 15 seconds will hopefully help teams bring the tower down despite the raised strength.


Because of there being only 18 teams, there will likely be about 2 matches between each team’s matches. An additional 15 seconds per match will give teams a little bit more time.

To help with the tower strength, we have also increased the amount of boulders that can be stored in the Castle to 8.

We have a request to make! If any teams have practice robots they could bring to compete, we would be very grateful! Yet another team has backed out. We would really like to have 18 teams here, and it’s getting late enough we don’t want to force more teams to make time in schedules. If any team has a practice robot from 2016 that they could bring to compete, that would be VERY VERY helpful. We can’t make the schedule until we have a finalized list, and teams keep backing out. Any teams willing to do this can PM me and I will send you our team captain’s email so you can get registered. If necessary, we are willing to waive the 200$ fee for the practice robot.


Note: All teams registered: Please DO NOT back out! Your team made a commitment to this event, and we can’t make the schedule until the list is finalized!

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We have yet another announcement/rule addition. This wasn’t posted with the other rule changes because it doesn’t directly pertain to how the game is played. We would like each time to have 3 drive teams at this event. The Gitchi Gummi is intended to be an event where students can practice driving and work on robots, not be very competitive. These three drive teams should be composed of people of different skill levels, not just the people who drove during the year. We will be referring to them as Primary, Secondary, and Tertiary. However, this doesn't necessarily mean that you should be trying to rank your students. The Primary drive team will be playing team's 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th, 13th, and 16th matches. Secondary will be playing the team's 2nd, 5th, 8th, 11th, 14th, and 17th matches. Tertiary will be playing the 3rd, 6th, 9th, 12th, 15th, 18th.

This does not necessarily include the drive coach if the drive coach is using the event to pick new drivers for the new season. The main focus is that as many people as possible get driving and human player experience.

In Playoffs, teams can choose who they want to drive.

If there are more students who wish to drive than will fit on the 3 drive teams, then it's fine if you switch students out. This event is to help students get drive time and experience at events. We want as many students as possible to get that experience.

If you don't have enough students for this many students, it's completely fine.

If anyone is willing to bring a practice robot to participate, please PM me and/or Zach101 ASAP. We need to have the matches finalized by the 17th..

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3275 is bringing a small new group. But we are excited

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KING TeC had quite the adventure at Gitchi Gummi. Despite the problems at every turn, we had fun. The venue was also really superb, much preferred over the high school last year.

We would like to thank 2512 for putting on a very great event. And we also thank everyone who had to put up with us through our difficulties.

We're going to have to work hard to outfit the bot for the Minne Mini, but the trip up here to Duluth, even with the thousands of problems, was definitely worth it.

Btw, really like the amount of Pokemon at Canal Park. Evolved my Growlithe

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What were the elimination alliances and results?

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Teams 3275/3134 would also like to thank 2512. What a fun , fast pace, well run event. Definitely planning on attending next year. Great job!

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+1

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I'll post that in a moment. Meanwhile, I present "FTA Vision" for those who've wondered what an FTA does during a match. I bet you never realized that FTAs have a connection between their corneas and the FMS. I hacked into the FTA's ocular systems during match 39.

FTA Vision

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Qualification results

Playoff results

Playoff Bracket

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Thanks!

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Special thanks to 8008 and 3102, we had an absolute blast playing with you this weekend. Gitch is getting better and better every year, thank you so much 2512!

Edit: Yep, totally meant 8009!

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Don't mean to nitpick here, but 8009 right, 4009's practice bot?

Congrats to 8009, 1816, and 3102 for winning Gitchi Gummi!

I didn't know 4009 had a practice bot, but man I'd just like to say they've been an up and coming team for the past couple of years. I won't be surprised if I see them win a few more regionals and make their name heard at champs in the future just like this year.

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Yes, 8009 and yes Denfeld is becoming an force to be reckoned with.

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We absolutely loved the Gitchi Gummi Get-Together! This was our first time going to a summer competition and team 2512 really set the bar high for what an off-season competition should be! The location was outright stunning, the match times kept us on our feet, the volunteers were awesome, and the food was great!

We were very blessed to be picked as the 3rd team for the 1st Alliance(Thanks 4009 and 3883!). The playoff matches were very close and a great experience for us!

Thank you for an amazing time! We will definitely be back next year!

EDIT: Also, thanks for filming the matches and posting them to YouTube.

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Same here for 3244 first offseason event. We really enjoyed the competition format and allowing us to give our very young team "Rookie season 2.0" this experience. Many of our team members had observation jobs at regionals with only one "Freshman" that had a drivers spot last year. All the kids (5) had an opportunity to participate on the floor. Some seemed to love it others not so much. That's what's great about FRC so many jobs from IT/support to Front man/ face of the team.
We where honored to join the 4th ranked alliance Teams 4656 Rock Solid Robotics out of Two Harbors, and 2175 The Fighting Calculators from Woodbury and nearly pull off the big upset vs. the #1 alliance. It took 3 tries at the tie beaker before 4009, 3883, 4480 figured out how to defeat 3 functioning robots. Everyone must admit that was a nail biting 30 minutes of competition.

We had so much fun and we will be most definitely be returning next year.

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4656 Rock Solid Robotics, 2175 The Fighting Calculators, and other teams that attempted to get our vision tracking back after configureing our radio for the event. This Thread says it all. We plugged everything in tonight and with no changes it works. Radio still configured for the FMS.

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So you are convincing FIRST to get all FTAs a hololens, right?

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Supposedly we're going to have some in the company library for checkout.

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I don't know, it probably depends on if FIRST is impressed or appalled at my field monitor app. They wouldll have to MacGyver some side shields for the HoloLenses to keep the UL folks happy though.

The graph view does give a bit of a different picture than the regular field monitor, the trip time that David was commenting on wasn't "horrible" but when you can see across 150 seconds of match time that one team that had (likely code) issues causing the trip jump to 30 ms occasionally it looks "bad" or at least noticeable. Of course 30 ms is less than a 30th of a second so the drivers aren't actually feeling the lag the way they would if it were jumping above 100 ms.

The most interesting thing I found is that the radio signal quality (the light blue line) shows when a radio starts to reboot. The signal goes away for a while, then when the radio reconnects the signal quality line comes back a good 10 seconds before the RoboRIO reconnects and starts reporting voltage.

The app is a Windows 10 Universal App, it will run on all Win-10 platforms including X-Box and IoT. After I'm happy with it I'll dump it in Xamarin to see if I can get it to run on Android.

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We'll need 4 or so for the double DECCer? I'll bring mine at least.

Sounds like production is up to demand. Currently anyone with an MSA can go buy one from the Microsoft Store.

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EDIT: Also, thanks for filming the matches and posting them to YouTube.[/quote]

Link:)?

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