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samthesnake 04-30-2016 12:29 PM
Poofs Red Card Question?
 
The Poofs' alliance scored 289 (if my math is right) in semifinals 2 but an alliance member must have been red carded because they got zero. My question is, why were they red carded?

Ginger Power 04-30-2016 12:30 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
2 Yellow cards. One of them was for touching the controllers too early if I heard correctly. Not sure of the other.

Arhowk 04-30-2016 12:31 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
The most common cause is tipping another robot. I didn't see the game but I did see the zero. Note that the entire alliance gets the red card; the scoreboard doesn't show who got it

nandeeka 04-30-2016 12:32 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
They got two yellow cards. Someone tethered without permission and someone touched the driver station during auto. Two yellow cards makes a red.

adamm 04-30-2016 12:32 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by samthesnake (Post 1580563)
The Poofs' alliance scored 289 (if my math is right) but an alliance member must have been red carded because they got zero. My question is, why were they red carded?
If I recall, There were two yellow cards given to the alliance. One for an unauthorized tethering of the robot, and another for touching the controls during auto.

Field crew spent a long time discussing that before revealing the results.

Adithya Balaji 04-30-2016 12:32 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
It was 1241 according to people on twitch chat

kgzak 04-30-2016 12:33 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
The score was 289 before the red card. 35 points in penalties. If you take away the 35 penalty points they would have scored 254.

TylerHarmon 04-30-2016 12:33 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by nandeeka (Post 1580566)
They got two yellow cards. Someone tethered without permission and someone touched the driver station during auto. Two yellow cards makes a red.
What do you mean by tethered?

FrankJ 04-30-2016 12:36 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TylerHarmon (Post 1580571)
What do you mean by tethered?
Connecting wired to the robot.

jodge1706 04-30-2016 12:38 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
They were tethered on the field before the match started, but there was an FTA with them. How could it be illegal?

Dave McLaughlin 04-30-2016 12:41 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jodge1706 (Post 1580573)
They were tethered on the field before the match started, but there was an FTA with them. How could it be illegal?
1983 was given a yellow card for this during elims at PNW DCMP. Is it a new rule this year? I can remember resetting on the field between finals 1 and 2 several times in the past.

ollien 04-30-2016 12:51 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
Hold up, G10 states (emphasis mine)

Quote:
ROBOTS will not be re-enabled after the conclusion of the MATCH, nor will Teams be permitted to tether to the ROBOT except in special circumstances (e.g. during TIMEOUTS, after Opening Ceremonies, etc.) and with the express permission from the FTA or a REFEREE.

Violation: Yellow Card
If they were with an FTA and this was *PRIOR* to the match, how is that a yellow card? Furthermore G15 states (emphasis mine)

Quote:
During AUTO, DRIVE TEAM members in the CASTLE may not contact anything in front of the STARTING LINE, unless for personal or equipment safety.

Violation: FOUL
How is that a yellow card? That's clearly a foul if anything.

CalTran 04-30-2016 12:57 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ollien (Post 1580575)


How is that a yellow card? That's clearly a foul if anything.
It's G14 in this case, because they started using the controls.

ollien 04-30-2016 01:56 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by CalTran (Post 1580577)
It's G14 in this case, because they started using the controls.
Got it. Thanks for the clarification!

samthesnake 04-30-2016 02:52 PM
Re: Poofs Red Card Question?
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by ollien (Post 1580575)
Hold up, G10 states (emphasis mine)



If they were with an FTA and this was *PRIOR* to the match, how is that a yellow card?
I'm curious about this as well. Maybe because it was after their last match in addition to being before the match they got carded, but I just don't understand the ruling


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