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peirvine 05-05-2016 16:06
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick (Post 1584062)
The problem I see with a potential #1champs in 2021 is will FIRST ever take back any of the 800 world championship spots? Could a venue hold an 800 team championship? To have a single championship I think 600 is the top end.

Going 4 years with 2 champs is going to leave a generation of FRC with the expectation of 800 teams going to 2 champs. The current generation plus the veteran mentors are not happy now - but what happens in 2021 when it doesn't combine into one championship? Will anyone expect the "old timers" care?
They could potentially run it like they do FTC - where they have 4 "super regionals" which then feed into the World Championship again. I think they had something like that drafted up in 2011 but I could be mistaken.

Hot_Copper_Frog 05-05-2016 16:07
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
As much as I love my fellow Michiganders...the Detroit championship is going to feel a whole lot like MSC.

I'm going to lobby hard for the frogs to travel to Hawaii for some fresh faces starting in 2018.

ehochstein 05-05-2016 16:08
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by peirvine (Post 1584078)
They could potentially run it like they do FTC - where they have 4 "super regionals" which then feed into the World Championship again. I think they had something like that drafted up in 2011 but I could be mistaken.
Clearly, this is just the beginning of FIRST's ultimate goal of having 2 Super Regional competitions and 1 World Championship.*

*I have no clue if this is actually FIRST's goal or not.

WCBC 05-05-2016 16:11
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
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Originally Posted by Tom Bottiglieri (Post 1584072)
Wow, I'd love to learn more about that!
Cosigned!

Tim Sharp 05-05-2016 16:11
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jared Russell (Post 1584068)
Or, hypothetically, you could save your energy (and money) and skip the official half-championship in favor of an IRI-on-steroids type de-facto World Championship.

Hypothetically.
I wonder how many teams will make the decision to forego the extra expense and hassle of the new championship format in favor of an extra regional or district event. Especially since the prestige of earning a spot in the CMP has now been cut in half.

I know it's a possibility for us.

TheJoe 05-05-2016 16:12
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hot_Copper_Frog (Post 1584080)
As much as I love my fellow Michiganders...the Detroit championship is going to feel a whole lot like MSC.

I'm going to lobby hard for the frogs to travel to Hawaii for some fresh faces starting in 2018.
Some of our older mentors are joking that it will be like the olden days when we used to compete at the Great Lakes Regional with you all :]

Akash Rastogi 05-05-2016 16:13
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Sharp (Post 1584083)
I wonder how many teams will make the decision to forego the extra expense and hassle of the new championship format in favor of an extra regional or district event. Especially since the prestige of earning a spot in the CMP has now been cut in half.

I know it's a possibility for us.
For us District teams, we will continue to hope more areas will move to our format and inter-district play with be more prevalent (Canada perhaps). If this happens, I don't really see us justifiably playing at a half-champs.

Hot_Copper_Frog 05-05-2016 16:16
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheJoe (Post 1584085)
Some of our older mentors are joking that it will be like the olden days when we used to compete at the Great Lakes Regional with you all :]
I mean, it is kind of like GLR on steroids, if you look at the map.

BrendanB 05-05-2016 16:17
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1584086)
For us District teams, we will continue to hope more areas will move to our format and inter-district play with be more prevalent (Canada perhaps). If this happens, I don't really see us justifiably playing at a half-champs.
Especially depending on the format. A 400 team event split into eight divisions is incredibly weak with so many teams qualify off of the waitlist.

I'd rather save some cash and either play at a regional, another district, or travel during the off-season.

I know for several teams, winning their district Championship is their current goal and has already had a more competitive atmosphere than Champs. Why even go a weak Championship?

pmangels17 05-05-2016 16:17
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Wait, here's the real question in all this: Is Will.I.Am going to come to both Championship events, or will only half of FIRST get their championship event overshadowed by needless controversy? (As if Half-Champs isn't controversial enough)

techtiger1 05-05-2016 16:18
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akash Rastogi (Post 1584086)
For us District teams, we will continue to hope more areas will move to our format and inter-district play with be more prevalent (Canada perhaps). If this happens, I don't really see us justifiably playing at a half-champs.
This, I'm not really at all interested in attending the championships right now. I'll go to Houston our home championship once because I have never been there but after that idk.

RoboChair 05-05-2016 16:18
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I would like to see FIRST push for everyone having districts instead of regionals(sparse international teams I have no current solution for). Everyone gets at least 2 events, those that do well get a Championship experience at the District level champs, and the best of the best at District Champs goes to the World Champs. The district model gives FIRST absolute control over team attendance numbers for Champs, bring X number of teams.

TheBoulderite 05-05-2016 16:20
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
Our alliance partners on Carson this year were 525, 4028, and 3352. We will never see any of them again. :(

Thanks for a great run, guys! Good luck next year!

Rivet Man 05-05-2016 16:23
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
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Originally Posted by Theseusgoats (Post 1584058)
Do you know about 610?
Hi Theseusgoats,

If you haven't heard, and I believe others have pointed out. There is a website called TheBlueAlliance.com that has a bunch of fascinating information on teams!

I've done the hard part and searched for this team 610 (who can do a hanging shot!) for you on TheBlueAlliance. The link is here http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/610.

Now if I'm reading the page correctly, it says that they are from Toronto, Ontario, Canada. Which as far as I've ever heard is the only place people in Canada are from (that CN tower is really tall! I went up it once a long time ago and let me tell you that glass floor is something).

Best Regards,
RM

jajabinx124 05-05-2016 16:24
Re: Split Champs assignment
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoulderite (Post 1584093)
Our alliance partners on Carson this year were 525, 4028, and 3352. We will never see any of them again. :(

Thanks for a great run, guys! Good luck next year!
We won't ever get to see our 2122 Tator buddys again either..


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