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Conor Ryan

12-05-2016 13:07

TIMS is DEAD! & Registration for 2017 opens May 19th

Looks like TIMS will go the way of the Floppy.

http://www.firstinspires.org/team-registration-site

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We are excited to announce the release of the NEW Team Registration portion of our website, which will replace the existing Team Information Management Systems (TIMS)*. With this change, the need for four separate program Team registration systems goes away – the new team registration is now an extension of firstinspires.org website.

The process will reduce time on administrative activities, resulting in more time for Coaches and Mentors to work with their teams. Features include:
Simple, easy-to-use “wizard” approach to all program registrations;
Reduced data requirements and streamlined entry choices;
Simple dashboard launch point for all registration-related processes that shows the overall status of the user’s teams across all four FIRST programs (e.g. If a Coach has a FIRST LEGO League Team and a FIRST Tech Challenge Team, he/she can check the status of each team from one location);
Register, pay for, and manage teams using a common workflow for all four FIRST programs;
Payment and grant processing functionality shows grants awarded and allows user to pay for multiple teams at once; and
Optimized experience for both desktop and smartphone browsers.
The new site will be launched with our FIRST LEGO League season opening on May 10th and then will be available for the opening of the other programs seasons:

FIRST Tech Challenge on May 18th,
FIRST Robotics Competition on May 19th,
FIRST LEGO League Jr. on August 1st.

All existing user accounts will remain the same, and all existing teams will be rolled forward to the new season as we normally do at this time of year and will be accessible from the new site. View example pages from the new site here.

Other FIRST sites are not changing at this time – but stay tuned as we continue our journey to improve the FIRST digital experience!

I hope this change goes smoothly and this addresses some long term systemic issues the community has raised. I hope they beta tested it.

TehSwegGey

12-05-2016 13:16

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As long as they don't accidentally loose team #s ;)

(Especially for FLL as well, since I knew some teams that got really lucky with their # when they went to static ones and they would be bummed if they lost their #...)

JesseK

12-05-2016 13:27

Re: TIMS is DEAD! & Registration for 2017 opens May 19th

A few things that are useful to existing teams:
"Manage my existing team"
"Register for an event"

Hopefully this is just a 'new team'-based dashboard, and not all of them?

coalhot

12-05-2016 13:36

Re: TIMS is DEAD! & Registration for 2017 opens May 19th

*redacts all comments he has about this change*

markmcgary

12-05-2016 14:22

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Originally Posted by JesseK (Post 1586185)

A few things that are useful to existing teams:
"Manage my existing team"
"Register for an event"

Hopefully this is just a 'new team'-based dashboard, and not all of them?

When FIRST introduced their new website, I went ahead and created a new 'account', not thinking to try my TIMS credentials. I just now succeeded logging in using both my new account AND my TIMS account. When I login with my TIMS credentials, the dashboard looks different then the 'new team'-based dashboard but there is no sign of 'Manage my existing team' or 'Register for an event'. That's likely because I am not a primary or secondary contact.

JesseK

12-05-2016 15:16

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Originally Posted by markmcgary (Post 1586211)

Good call - I just tried my TIMS login info using the "Login" button in the upper-right. I don't remember it working before, but it worked this time. Here is the dashboard I have. Not sure what I did, but at the moment I'm getting a "400 - Bad Request" after trying the back button too many times while diving in to some of the links.

Billfred

12-05-2016 15:38

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I just hope it works.

MooreteP

12-05-2016 16:00

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If the new FIRST website is any harbinger, I'm not looking forward to this concoction.

Bob Steele

12-05-2016 18:18

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Originally Posted by MooreteP (Post 1586237)

If the new FIRST website is any harbinger, I'm not looking forward to this concoction.

^ This.....

rsisk

12-05-2016 19:51

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Originally Posted by TehSwegGey (Post 1586178)

I would be very upset if we lost our FLL team number: FLL #26 Robochimps

ATannahill

12-05-2016 21:14

Re: TIMS is DEAD! & Registration for 2017 opens May 19th

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Originally Posted by Conor Ryan (Post 1586172)

Looks like TIMS will go the way of the Floppy.

http://www.firstinspires.org/team-registration-site

I hope this change goes smoothly and this addresses some long term systemic issues the community has raised. I hope they beta tested it.

Was there an email blast about this? The post does not seem to be part of a blog. Did you find it by exploring the website or did it appear on an RSS feed?

Edit: I found this post, which for some reason has not come through my RSS reader yet.

Landonh12

12-05-2016 23:20

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I'm already having problems with it...

Our coach invited me to be a contact for the team, and when I go to accept the invitation, it tells me "Oops! Something went wrong!" and then grays out the Accept button.

Tried two different browsers... Come on FIRST...

MechEng83

12-05-2016 23:35

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Originally Posted by Landonh12 (Post 1586333)

It's technically not supposed to go live for FRC until next Thursday at noon Eastern. I've logged in and tried to do a few things, some with success, some without. I'd wait until the 19th to see if full functionality is up.

BSV	12-05-2016 23:37

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Originally Posted by rsisk (Post 1586279)

I would be very upset if we lost our FLL team number: FLL #26 Robochimps

No worries, the FLL team numbers are the same (we're 11 and 21, and I was able to get the YPP to work so am halfway registered).

I don't see a place to edit much stuff for the FRC teams, though, aside from sponsors, and our main sponsors are not listed.

scca229

13-05-2016 11:51

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Originally Posted by rtfgnow (Post 1586300)

The blast came through my email on 5/12 @t 8:25AM AZT, Part of Subject: New FIRST Team Registration

Logging in with my old TIMS shows me attached to the my normal team but not able to do much yet since it isn't live.

rsisk

13-05-2016 12:05

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Invited a new mentor to our FRC team today, worked very nice, I would mark this as an improvement.

Try to pay for our FLL team registration, not so good. Complains because I am associated with multiple teams (like who isn't) and I have to call FIRST. Also complaining that I am not YPP certified (I am), and there were some other complaints. I would mark this as a worse experience than before.

FLL Team Number is still #26 - Total win there!

FrankJ

13-05-2016 12:43

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I was able to go in and update my waiver & youth protection screening required for first and second contacts.

Your YPP has to be updated every two years.

kristinweiss

13-05-2016 12:49

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I was also having trouble with it saying that my YPP is not up to date even though it is

rsisk

13-05-2016 13:04

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Originally Posted by rsisk (Post 1586415)

Update on this... when the new mentor went to click on the invitation email, he got the message "Something went wrong". I moving this over to the "Worse customer experience" column.

No clue what went wrong, no indication of how to fix it. So going to need to call FIRST.

scca229

13-05-2016 15:08

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Originally Posted by rsisk (Post 1586429)

Or maybe wait until May 19 @ 12:00EDT when it is fully operational for FRC?

DaveL

14-05-2016 05:56

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I just tried it and it shows the mentors and coaches from last season.
Dave

FrankJ

14-05-2016 08:29

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Mentors and coaches have always been carried over year to year. Students have to reregister every year.

rsisk

14-05-2016 09:17

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Originally Posted by scca229 (Post 1586469)

Or maybe wait until May 19 @ 12:00EDT when it is fully operational for FRC?

Yep, that's what FIRST said when I called them.

sanddrag

22-05-2016 02:08

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My team does not show at all in Firefox, but it does in Chrome. Seriously, does anyone ever test this stuff before they release it?

EDIT: It appears in Chrome it takes a few seconds for it to show up. Until then, the dashboard just appears blank.

FrankJ

22-05-2016 07:11

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It works in firefox for me. Maybe you have something disabled?

sanddrag

22-05-2016 12:09

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Originally Posted by FrankJ (Post 1588934)

It works in firefox for me. Maybe you have something disabled?

Okay, my mistake. It does work. It just takes about 9 seconds for the team to load. Before it does, it says "No teams here."

bdaroz

22-05-2016 12:53

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This is a pattern I've seen time and time again, and I always end up screaming about bad UX in my head when I see it....

AJAX for AJAX's sake

If you have a page that's supposed to... say, show an invoice. Don't load a blank page, then make a bunch of AJAX calls after load to get the invoice. Sure your page loading stats (to render) will be great, and your users will look at your blank invoice page and wonder WTH...

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