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Tom Line 20-07-2016 21:27

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Analyzing how many of each type of shooter there was is similar to counting how many presidential candidates have blue eyes. The quantities of each might represent what teams initially perceived would serve them the best, but that decision making process was full of other variables like packaging, previous experience, and fabrication difficulty.

If you want to determine which was superior, then you need to determine what metrics you believe are important to the shooter and measure them.

% shots made would be a decent start.

Ben Martin 21-07-2016 09:32

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% shots made would be a decent start.

Here is data on this subject from our qual match scouting at IRI. The usual noise of scouting data applies.

Kevin Leonard 21-07-2016 09:33

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Originally Posted by Tom Line (Post 1597815)
Analyzing how many of each type of shooter there was is similar to counting how many presidential candidates have blue eyes. The quantities of each might represent what teams initially perceived would serve them the best, but that decision making process was full of other variables like packaging, previous experience, and fabrication difficulty.

If you want to determine which was superior, then you need to determine what metrics you believe are important to the shooter and measure them.

% shots made would be a decent start.

Very true, but I think it's a good start, and it's an easy analysis to do.

aJASONt_angles 21-07-2016 13:42

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Best Shooting mechanism of 2016: Robonauts Grappling Hook

'Nuff Said

mwmac 21-07-2016 13:52

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Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1587531)
2122 showed up at their first regional just making low goals. They then improved by adding a climber and then eventually their extremely accurate high goal shot. They did, however, shoot from almost the ground.....
The type of shooter you choose isn't about which is objectively "the best", but rather which one fits your priorities and resources the best.

Thanks for the kind words. Your last sentence noted above is worthy of emphasis.

Having previous experience with hooded shooters (2012) and linear punch shooters (2014) we considered both before settling on a catapult design. Given the packaging constraints imposed by our desire to hang, be low bar capable and retain low and high goal scoring, our small spring catapult emerged as the best solution for us. Additionally, our picker design permitted us to quickly move the ball from low goal scoring position to catapult and back again if required by defense robots.

In terms of accuracy, on Carson through Einstein high goal accuracy was 79%. With respect to our low release point and its vulnerability to blockers, we experienced 2 blocked high goal shots out of 80 taken in teleop throughout CMP's.

ollien 21-07-2016 15:05

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Originally Posted by Ben Martin (Post 1597875)
Here is data on this subject from our qual match scouting at IRI. The usual noise of scouting data applies.

Any reason why 1619 has their own group?

Cothron Theiss 21-07-2016 15:26

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Any reason why 1619 has their own group?

Because even after a member of 1619 posted a picture and explained their shooter, it is unique enough that it doesn't quite fit in any of the other groups. It could probably be grouped with the double flywheel shooters, but it's enough of an outlier to earn its own category.

AdamHeard 21-07-2016 19:08

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Because even after a member of 1619 posted a picture and explained their shooter, it is unique enough that it doesn't quite fit in any of the other groups. It could probably be grouped with the double flywheel shooters, but it's enough of an outlier to earn its own category.

We had the same shooter design (more or less).

I'd classify it closer to a single wheeled rotary shooter than a double flywheel shooter.

It's using flywheel(s) on one side to roll ball against a stationary wall and has a good deal of travel on the ball. A double wheeled shooter reacts off both wheels at once and doesn't have as much travel time on the ball.

Cothron Theiss 21-07-2016 19:20

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Originally Posted by AdamHeard (Post 1597927)
We had the same shooter design (more or less).

I'd classify it closer to a single wheeled rotary shooter than a double flywheel shooter.

It's using flywheel(s) on one side to roll ball against a stationary wall and has a good deal of travel on the ball. A double wheeled shooter reacts off both wheels at once and doesn't have as much travel time on the ball.

Well that shows how unique it is (or how dirty my glasses are). I thought it was the blue wheels on the two vertical shafts that provided the power, not the horizontal rows of Colsons. I guess those are for intake then.


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