What to do with the sniper?
 

It seems that political discussions are all the rage on CD these days, so the thought crossed my mind this morning- now that they supposedly have the snipers in custody, what should be done with them if they are found guilty? I've heard everything from deportation to letting them free, to letting them roam around in a football field for a day, with hundreds of military snipers in the stands, one of them assigned to carry out the execution, but the guilty would have no idea when, who, or where it would be done. What does everyone else think?

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i haven't heard about the deportation thing. are they not citizens?

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How about we give them due process, spare them from cruel and unusual punishment, and get on with our lives, focus on the good, and stop making crazy people celebrities?

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Amen.

And although it may look like I always take the easy way out and say 'Yeah, what Michael said' .. I really was going to post pretty much that exact same thing about 2 hours ago, but got sidetracked.

Great minds just think alike, I guess. :cool: :D

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Heh. I was also going to say the same thing.

Remember Columbine? People have speculated that the reason there were so many school shootings afterwards was because the Columbine kids got so much news coverage. ::shrugs:: that's what they say, anyway.

But yeah. Leave it alone.

- Katie

I was about to do the same thing, really. Needed to brush my teeth...

M, here here!

My sentiments are essentially the same, but I've heard a lot of talk around the street as to what should be done once the due process is completed.

As far as making crazy people celebrities, unfortunately I think that's all the news is meant to do these days. Most news channels have stopped simply reporting the facts, but now tout opinionated speculation. Particularly since 9/11, when the words "Osama bin Laden" were first spoken, every major human-induced disaster since has resulted in the media spotlight shining brightly on those accused and/or responsible. The "masses" need something to blame and point fingers at, and the media provides just the thing for them.

The Washington Post has an article front page today that talks about chosing where to bring the sniper to trial based on where he is most likely to get the death sentance.

""There ought to be two determining factors above all others," said former Justice Department official George Terwilliger III. "Where is the strongest case with the best evidence?"

Yes, I agre with that.

" And which is the jurisdiction that can most expeditiously go through a death penalty trial where it has the best chance of being upheld?"

That I disagree with, stick with the first one.

Due process, bring him to trial, jury decides guilt/innocence, then sentencing.

Wetzel
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My dad (sarcastically) suggested that the government hangs them on a large pole in time square and charge people money to throw tomatos and other stuff to pubically humiliate them before we send them to jail or dispose of them.

Ah, the medievil concept of public shame... I likes.

That would work, except there's probably millions of americans out there who would throw a little more than tomatoes.. maybe a .28 millimeter shard of metal...

well, if they are (most likely) gonna get the death sentence anyway...:D jk

Why not send him through immense training to make him become chauvinistic then send him a place where a sniper is needed. Put our bad people to use.

Michael Krass took my line! That's okay, I still respect you "M".

I would like to add that it is important for us to let go of the hate and anger that might be lingering as a result of the actions of these seriously misguided men. If we allow hate to fester within ourselves, it's as if we are allowing them to still control us and hold us hostage with our feelings. Let due process do it's job (correctly we pray), and let us be free from the hate within ourselves that would spread more pain than those men already have.
They did this because they felt powerless. What will we do if we hold onto an anger that in the end really makes us powerless?

True, you should defend yourself when threatened. But if the threat is over, let it go.

Very well said.

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Well said Mike #2. I was thinking that we should do whatever the law says is the correct punishment, but I like the way you put it better.

heh, don't we know it ;)

Mike

what should we do with these two suspects? try them, make sure that they are who we're looking for, then throw them in some dark, dangy cell, give em a bit of moldy bread and dirty water each day, and somehow loose the key. i'd say you're better off dead than wasting away in some cell, so why be nice and give them the death penelty? (i'm also against the death penelty, because i don't see how killing someone solves anything)

I say we tie them up, put them in the middle of a battle bots arena and let the fun begin.

On a more serious note, i feel that they deserve whatever they get. Just as long as it involves solitary confinment, death row, and oooooo... death by firing squad. wont that be poetic justice.

-Ian
thankful that this horrible ordeal is finally over (knock on wood!!)

I agree on one part with Dixon, but instead of solitray confinement.....put em in general population and let the prisoners have fun...

Later,
Cliff

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tack him up to a wall, shoot him each day starting at the toes. Feed him every day also, after so many months he wont have any legs left, also make sure he doesnt bleed to death!

i overheard someone on the train today and this idea sounds a bit better. les brutal i think


why dont we hang the 2 adn let the relatives of the 13 victims come beat the poopy out of them both. why waste good money by killing them in prison or sending em to prison. just let there butts get kicked and then send em over to afghan terr. so they can have a lil fun to..

Wait, I have an even better idea. Let's behead them in public like they do in Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia! It'll be really fair, it's fun, and it seems to have worked in that part of the world!

Hows chinese water torture sound?
or hows about disembowlment
or that torture that Cary Elwes describes at the end of Robin Hood: Men in Tights. those all sound like good ideas to me

How about a mistrial and a 5 year prison sentence and 3 year parole for good behavior. Sadly, it happens... :rolleyes:

I think we should try these people like we try any felon. Don't do anything special for them. Try them in an unbiased courtroom and let the defense and prosecution have their say. Then let the 12 men and women of the jury determine their fate. Its important that neither how mad we are at someone nor the serious nature of the crimes these individuals carried out let us forget about due process of the law.

I agree with the above post. Why glorify them any more than the media already has by some "strange form of punishment"? And honestly.. send them to Afghanistan??? C'mon that wouldn't work. Something would go wrong, but I don't think this is the last of these attacks on our country, not by a long shot. I fear the worst is still to come :(

Keep in mind though that if they are American citizens they have the Constitutional right against any cruel and unusual punishment. However they were cruel when they killed those six people. Burn Them!!!!!

Once again, that would only glorify them more. It'd be covered by every TV station in the world. Is that what we want? I know I don't.

true ... stupid ian!! i always do this
i guess i should keep my mouth shut
but then you wouldnt hear from team 87 on these boards.
I guess you will keep hearing my ranting and ravings

It'll most likely be a federal indictment, but if it's state then it'll be Virgina. I'm pretty sure they're more supportive of the death penalty than Maryland is, and this is obviously a case in which we'd be seeking that.

At least one of them is a citizen of Jamaica, I'm pretty sure it's the kid. But deportation? Meh.

To quote someone from another message board I visit, Jamaica's official stance on the situation is "Quit bogarting that doobie."

He killed ten people, not six, and wounded 3 others.
Before deciding how to punish someone, please pay attention and figure out what they did before passing sentance.

Also, even if they are not American citizens, they still have all the protections in the Constitution because they are being tried in American courts under American rules for breaking American law.

The Constitution applies at all times in all instances, regardless of what we would like.


Wetzel
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sorry i got the facts wrong. But yeah, as long as they are here leagally they are protected by federal law. Still they were wrong and deserve whatever punishment they recieve.

Indeed, Indeed.

How about allowing a court to decide upon a fair and humanitarian punishment, instead of an uncivilized witchhunt. Violence and cruelty will only create more of these killers.

Actually I don't think the kid was here legally. He was already deported once and then came back. Also I believe they are going to be tried in Maryland and possibly Alabama for the killing of a liquor store clerk.

Simple
 

File Charges - Prosecute - Convict - Sentence to death - Execute

Uh.. not so simple, considering you outlined just one path that the process could take. There are many other outcomes which would make it not-so-simple.

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