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OZ_341 13-06-2016 10:15

Re: Best FRC moments ever
 
Former President George HW Bush (2007 Champs Ceremonies?) saying that FIRST was like..."WWF for smart people"

WSiggs 13-06-2016 11:07

Re: Best FRC moments ever
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Germita (Post 1592569)
The 29pt 6v0 match by 469, 888, 111, 1114, 231, and 288 in 2010 Curie Quals 100.

Why was this 6 versus 0? Can you explain what happened?

Chris is me 13-06-2016 11:33

Re: Best FRC moments ever
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WSiggs (Post 1592616)
Why was this 6 versus 0? Can you explain what happened?

Basically, the formula for seeding did not factor in wins or losses directly. The winning alliance would get their score + 2 times the loser's score + 5 points. The losing alliance would get the winning alliance's score. If you know you are going to lose a match for sure, scoring in the correct goal is actually the least productive thing you can do - it helps your opponents tremendously and doesn't help you at all.

The other half of the equation for the 1114 6v0 match was the particular teams involved. 111 and 1114 spent the entire weekend jockeying for the #1 seed. They were basically tied for #1 seed at the time. If 1114 played a hard fought match against 111 and 469 and lost, it would guarantee that 111 seeded above 1114, which would basically guarantee 111 advanced to Einstein. By playing the 6v0 match, 1114 ensured that 111 would only get 5 more ranking points than them in the worst case scenario. 1114's alliance partners needed to block their own goals in order to prevent 111 from scoring on themselves to boost their ranking.

This match was a "hostile 6v0" in that 1114 did not collude with the opposing alliance before the match, and actively hindered their efforts to seed higher, so you can't say this is "throwing a match". This is the strategy that would give the 1114 alliance the most seeding points, while denying the most seeding points possible to the opposing alliance.

If that makes your head hurt, you weren't alone. The ranking system was among the very best at actually ranking teams based on quality, but it sure did cause some headaches.

Jay O'Donnell 13-06-2016 12:26

Re: Best FRC moments ever
 
Found a lesser known moment, 125 getting the last second ramp climb at Boston 2007 in finals 3. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/VD31wDYpbkc

RoboChair 13-06-2016 13:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1592552)
I'm looking for the best moments in FRC to ever be caught on video. Basically, anything that made the crowd go insane or something that everyone there will remember.

Shameless self promotion here.

2014 Inland Empire Regional Finals 2 1678, 399, 4161
First perfect cycle. Second perfect cycle, back-to-back. Not sure if it's the only double perfect cycle. Was done after our ball settling mechanism was crippled and repaired back into place with a c-clamp.
https://youtu.be/dhY_p3qhSkY?t=1m25s

2016 Central Valley Regional Quarter 1-1 1678, 254, 3970
Crowd was not expecting us to be able to extend our arm AND fire with a defender parked in front of us.
https://youtu.be/i5c9Z6G7xjU?t=1m19s

Brandon Holley 13-06-2016 15:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1592635)
Found a lesser known moment, 125 getting the last second ramp climb at Boston 2007 in finals 3. Enjoy! https://youtu.be/VD31wDYpbkc

Will definitely go down as one of my best moments in FRC. There was a long period of time where Andy Grady's "AHHHHH....125!!" was the go-to text notification tone for the team. Maybe we should bring that back...

-Brando

Jay O'Donnell 13-06-2016 15:39

Re: Best FRC moments ever
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandon Holley (Post 1592680)
Will definitely go down as one of my best moments in FRC. There was a long period of time where Andy Grady's "AHHHHH....125!!" was the go-to text notification tone for the team. Maybe we should bring that back...

-Brando

Are there any better video clips than the two shots in that video? I'm assuming not but I figured I would ask.

Brandon Holley 13-06-2016 15:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1592681)
Are there any better video clips than the two shots in that video? I'm assuming not but I figured I would ask.

There is a bigger version of the tiny video up on Youtube, but other than that, this is all we have. Welcome to the beginning days of Youtube and terrible documentation of FRC events :)

-Brando

R.C. 13-06-2016 15:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by roboruler (Post 1592556)
Carson QF4 and 8 2015

Especially QF4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maEnW8d29ps

Wow, you're a d*ck!

Joe Ross 13-06-2016 16:09

Re: Best FRC moments ever
 
2012 CVR Final 2, 1717 makes eleventy billion shots to win 3 on 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8EaPRjwHRg

remulasce 13-06-2016 16:43

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Re: 2010 videos:

This is the best video I've been able to find of 2010 Einstein Finals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6-BhYpfmm8
Others:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYdbNMGT-r0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOWmn4fBVCQ

469 + 1114 "6v0"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9EGAPBwgFU

http://www.thebluealliance.com/team/1114/2010
Additional context to the 6v0 and the "upset": Up until that point, 1114 had not lost a single match the entire season, for a record of 55-0-2. Then they purposely lose the single match to secure the first seed and ally with 469, the (almost) perfect redirector.

They enter the Einstein Finals with a record of 66-1-2. And leave with 66-3-2...


CD reaction threads:
https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...t=85316&page=3
https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=85436

I know I'm tooting my own horn here, but you asked for it...
1114+469+2041 was a fantastic alliance, and 1114 graciously allowed us to load-test our batteries with their equipment, even through the final matches. My best memory of FIRST was driving 294 while allied with 1114 the following year, though it did not end as well.

Lil' Lavery 13-06-2016 19:01

Re: Best FRC moments ever
 
2015 MAR Champs F2. Both alliances topple stacks in the last 30 seconds

http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2015mrcmp_f1m2


2008 Philadelphia Regional F2. Blue alliance wins because a ball rolls across the line after the buzzer.
http://www.thebluealliance.com/match/2008pa_f1m2

roboruler 13-06-2016 20:22

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Quote:

Originally Posted by R.C. (Post 1592685)
Wow, you're a d*ck!

Sorry I completely did not mean to be offensive in that way.

I have the up-most respect for 254,973,999 and 4499 and I did not intend to say what I said in a malicious way. For me as an individual who is a fan of 254 and 973 those two matches signify the unfortunate events that can lead to the downfall of a fantastic alliance that would have dominated Einstein. I see those matches as being memorable for me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1592552)
Something that everyone there will remember.

I think these two matches are something that everyone there will remember, but not in a good way.

I sincerely apologise to those who took what I said as offensive, looking back on what I said I think I could have expressed what I said a lot better, and I should have read the first post in full before replying.

Dan Petrovic 13-06-2016 22:13

Re: Best FRC moments ever
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1592598)
2006 - Einstein Finals 2

I have rewatched this match more times than any other single match.

It was a back and forth match that was extremely tight all the way down to the wire. I don't know who the name of that announcer was, but he brought so much extra excitement to that match.

johnr 13-06-2016 23:35

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVCskqsaLBI
07-double hang. Took all season plus off season. This was the very last match that this bot played. Off season, official rules.


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