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Fusion_Clint 13-06-2016 00:07

Bearing Reamer?
 
Has anyone experimented with using a carbide 1.125 inch bowl and tray router bit as a final pass on your bearing holes when using a CNC router? Like the one below, thoughts? Any idea on the tolerances on a bit like this one?

http://www.amanatool.com/products/ro...nch-shank.html

AnthonyDV 13-06-2016 00:17

Re: Bearing Reamer?
 
A combination of the motor not having enough torque, a low enough rpm, and the router not being rigid enough means the reamer would chatter alot. We have had success making our holes around .015 inch undersized and reaming them out on a drillpress.

R.C. 13-06-2016 00:20

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Originally Posted by AnthonyDV (Post 1592576)
A combination of the motor not having enough torque, a low enough rpm, and not being rigid enough means the reamer would chatter alot. We have had success making our holes around .015 inch undersized and reaming them out on a drillpress.

Ditto

We had some custom reamers made a while back. We go .015 to .01 undersize and then ream (press fit thanks to custom sizing )

Michael Corsetto 13-06-2016 00:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyDV (Post 1592576)
We have had success making our holes around .015 inch undersized and reaming them out on a drillpress.

For anyone curious, this is the reamer we bought off ebay. We got two of em and they've been great. We are lucky that our Drill Press spindle and Clausing Lathe tailstock both have Morse Taper #3, so we can use the reamer on both machines effortlessly.

-Mike

teslalab2 13-06-2016 23:50

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As a machinist, I would recommend an offset boring tool. You could put it in the drill press and then bore any sized hole you would like.

asid61 13-06-2016 23:54

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Originally Posted by teslalab2 (Post 1592751)
As a machinist, I would recommend an offset boring tool. You could put it in the drill press and then bore any sized hole you would like.

I used to use an offset boring head, but after a couple years I got (extremely) lazy, especially because switching to the boring head required me to drop the knee of the mill 3" or so. Now we use positive bearing retention everywhere and 1.125" holes.
My method is to drill with a 1/2" drill first (largest one we have), then go in with a 3/4" then 1" endmill. After that I finish up the hole with a 1.125" endmill. This gets some tight slip fits and a very round hole.
My dream is to own a 1.124" reamer, but the $200 cost for a custom one doesn't suit me too well. :P Given that we use a manual mill anyway, it doesn't hurt to use the 1.125" endmill we already own.

Owen Busler 14-06-2016 14:41

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Im not sure if this is the exact model we have but this is what my team uses. We spent some time last offsetting setting it to exactly 1.124 and we never change it. The CNC router gets us to 1.12 ish and we manually clean it up with this:

http://www.mscdirect.com/product/details/02239093

protoserge 15-06-2016 11:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1592752)
My dream is to own a 1.124" reamer, but the $200 cost for a custom one doesn't suit me too well. :P Given that we use a manual mill anyway, it doesn't hurt to use the 1.125" endmill we already own.

I got my 1.124" reamer for $52 shipped on eBay. Brand new. Keep an eye out for them!

DonRotolo 15-06-2016 14:52

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That bit is NOT a reamer, and don't count on the tolerance to be down to 0.001".

As others have said: make the hole several thousandths undersize and use a hand reamer to make it half a thousandth (or so) undersize.

EXPERIMENT in the off season!

AnthonyDV 16-06-2016 02:00

Re: Bearing Reamer?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by teslalab2 (Post 1592751)
As a machinist, I would recommend an offset boring tool. You could put it in the drill press and then bore any sized hole you would like.

Boring heads are great when used on a mill, but there is no good way to use one on a drill press. There isn't really a good (safe) way to hold your work or locate the center of a hole. The spindles in drill presses are not designed to take the unbalance load from a boring head.

Munchskull 16-06-2016 02:43

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Another option is to ream it to 1.125 and then use locite designed for beating retention.

InFlight 16-06-2016 21:50

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You could also polish a 1.125 drill or mill slightly under sized on a lathe with Emory paper. (Run the lathe in reverse). Taking off 0.0005 should be easy with HSS.

Lapping compound is another option.

DonRotolo 17-06-2016 21:46

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Originally Posted by InFlight (Post 1593147)
You could also polish a 1.125 drill or mill slightly under sized on a lathe with Emory paper. (Run the lathe in reverse). Taking off 0.0005 should be easy with HSS.

If you can chuck it in a lathe, you can bore it to half a thousandth with some care.

InFlight 18-06-2016 11:59

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Originally Posted by DonRotolo (Post 1593251)
If you can chuck it in a lathe, you can bore it to half a thousandth with some care.

An experienced mentor machinist with a Starrett micrometer can achieve half a thousand on a nice big lathe that well is adjusted.

An above average student machinist on a mini-lathe using $15 digital calipers would be good to hold 0.002".

My point was either end of the machinist spectrum could take a 1.125 mill or drill and undersized it enough to achieve a snug R8 bearing fit.

s_forbes 18-06-2016 21:14

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I don't think that this is what you're looking for, but we used this step drill bit to clean up bearing holes in our waterjetted pieces this past season. It can put a 7/8" OD hole into 1/8" thick material, or run through thicker material with a 1.125" OD hole. Just the right size for the 3/8" and 1/2" bearings we all use.

http://www.mcmaster.com/#8841a35

Step drills are cheaper than reamers, but they can wander if you are taking off a lot of material. Our gearboxes worked great, but we had padded in an extra .003" between adjacent bearing holes to prevent gears from binding if things were off. If you want tighter tolerances, you probably don't want a step drill.


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