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I disagree. I think if we can get enough people together to try and get this rule changed before the season starts we could. I for one am not looking forward to making a Chairman's Award Entry that is made of paper and not video clips. There's got to be someone that will back me on this, I mean, there's like 1,000 teams out there. Doesn't anyone feel the same way?:confused:

The season has already started.

And I HOPE FIRST learned their lession about changing the rules after they have made them.

Anyone remember the Nintendo street team? They sent people out(paid job) to wander around malls and such and have people play the GameCube they had straped to their belt. LCD screen on the persons chest. I shall go look for pictures.

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Best I can find is the post on /.

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Wetzel
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I dislike small special interest groups making large changes

Cool! Looking forward to the pics.

We went around VCU with just made footage of Spark 3.0 on our iBook. It worked surprisingly well.

Look for the Team 384 Street Team this year (hopefully) :)

This will probably be another one-year-thing like the "teamwork challenge" last year when 4 robots competed as a team... As students, we are given the incredible opportunity to create the future; FIRST is here to lift us up to the podium of success.
They are not doing that by changing this submission format to four pages- those of us who want to major in video production/filmmaking are insulted by this... Imagine telling all programmers they could only use old versions of C... Or imagine telling pit crews they can only use old washing machines to make robots...

This year surely will be interesting.. but I surely hope the format is changed for next year's competition..

PBASIC is a weird version of BASIC, which is older then C.

Also, what about the English majors?

No need to be insulted because they are changing the rules this year for their program. Would the build people be insulted if they were told they could'nt move from their starting place?
I would propose no, they would just view it as a challenge.
This isn't made to tailor to your interests, its made to get you interested in something new.

That said, if you want it changed, the time to talk about it will be the team forums next summer.

Wetzel
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You can't please everyone, someone needs to be told no.

Jeez, just because chairman's award cant be a video doesn't mean that you can't make videos. I said it before(maybe in this thread...cant remember), but I think that everyone has a place in FIRST. Just because Video ppl can't submit for the Chairman's award doesn't mean they will have nothing to do in FIRST. The truly inspired video ppl should make the video anyway and show it to potential sponsors. I personally like this idea, and I think people who think its stifling their creativity have to be creative about what they can use their talents for.

We're going ahead with our video. It's the first year we were going to do one, the first year we have video software...

and our open house at all our meetings is attracting a variety of people, who will have the opportunity to sit down and see the video,

let alone at all competitions and exhibitions.

I very much agree that it should be changed but i dought that FIRST will change the rules until next year.

Well thank you. At least someone from another team agrees with me. Now someone tell me, where is the "gracious professionalism" that Woody is always preaching about in taking away people's jobs on the team? That is not the spirit of FIRST. Now will anyone be willing to take a stand with me and go against this rule?

To me, at least, FIRST is about exposing people to new things. Can you not use a drill press, learn to lathe, learn to design a gearbox, mentor a FLL team, make a fundrasing video, work on the animation, keep track of finances, or any other of the meriad of tasks that need to be done to be successful.

And in the professional world, the company isnt there to provide you with your job, it is to provide a service to someone else. FIRST is providing the country by getting kids excited about science. Some might argue that they it is just getting kids excited about something. (You sure seem excited about making a video:))
So you can't make a video for Chairmans, you can still make a video.

It seems similar to the rules for the game changing, and the people that worked on a mechanism to pick up balls are out of a job because there are not balls but floppies this year. It is the same task, to manipulate an object, yet must be approached differently. Chairman's is the same objective, but must be approached differently this year.


Wetzel
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Blondie - Heart of Glass

your partly right about a job being lost but the wonderful thing about the A/V team is that you can make any kind of movie. so make some thing to show off your team. or make a run off of your written chairman's award.:D :D

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If you want my honest oppinion, I would say do a regular chairmens award anyways. We used ours a lot for promotions durrign non-first related events and fundraisers. It is also good to give to companies for PR use. I know our team will be doing this and i highly sugest that other teams do the same.