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Kevin Leonard 14-09-2016 11:14

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So the new HVR has a 24 spot initial capacity, and so does NYC this year. Assuming those events both end up at somewhere like 35-40 teams a piece, that's just a few more spots than the single NYC regional had last year. If upstate teams want to attend HVR, it's going to be a tight fit.

bdaroz 14-09-2016 12:05

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Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1606748)
So the new HVR has a 24 spot initial capacity, and so does NYC this year. Assuming those events both end up at somewhere like 35-40 teams a piece, that's just a few more spots than the single NYC regional had last year. If upstate teams want to attend HVR, it's going to be a tight fit.

It's not like there are a lot of options for us... I'd consider Montreal, but travel outside the country will be a problem. Hudson Valley is the only other remotely economical option we have. And interesting you mention 24 slots, TVR is starting at 26, and should hard cap at 36 (unless they start adding tents). If HVR is starting at 24, are they capping at <36? Ugh.

Brian Maher 14-09-2016 12:46

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Originally Posted by bdaroz (Post 1606753)
It's not like there are a lot of options for us... I'd consider Montreal, but travel outside the country will be a problem. Hudson Valley is the only other remotely economical option we have. And interesting you mention 24 slots, TVR is starting at 26, and should hard cap at 36 (unless they start adding tents). If HVR is starting at 24, are they capping at <36? Ugh.

I have no inside info, but I expect that the final cap on HVR will be at least 36. They are likely keeping the initial cap smaller to make sure local teams looking for a second play will be able to get in later.

Kevin Leonard 14-09-2016 12:59

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Originally Posted by BMSOTM (Post 1606757)
I have no inside info, but I expect that the final cap on HVR will be at least 36. They are likely keeping the initial cap smaller to make sure local teams looking for a second play will be able to get in later.

I heard a rumor Long Island was going to be bigger this year to accommodate the redistribution of teams at events, but LI was already a 50 team event to begin with.

I legitimately don't know how NY is going to fit the teams that want to attend their events. TVR is going to be begging for teams to come, and HVR/NYC are going to be packed to the brim with a waitlist.

5254 could maybe attend Ohio events or Montreal, but it's super inconvenient. And even if we do HVR, we're pretty much guaranteed back to back events again!

Chris is me 14-09-2016 13:10

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Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1606759)
I heard a rumor Long Island was going to be bigger this year to accommodate the redistribution of teams at events, but LI was already a 50 team event to begin with.

I legitimately don't know how NY is going to fit the teams that want to attend their events. TVR is going to be begging for teams to come, and HVR/NYC are going to be packed to the brim with a waitlist.

5254 could maybe attend Ohio events or Montreal, but it's super inconvenient. And even if we do HVR, we're pretty much guaranteed back to back events again!

I'm pretty convinced there will be more than a few NY teams that are one event teams this year, not constrained by budget but by the event schedule. Who can game registration timing the best? That's who gets two plays.

ATannahill 14-09-2016 13:13

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Originally Posted by bdaroz (Post 1606746)
Updated list of the missing....
  • Israel District
  • Michigan State Champs
  • Australia Regional (2) Week 3 Regionals
  • Central Illinois Regional Week 3
  • Greater Kansas City Regional
  • Lone Star Regional ( + another possible new Regional)
  • Los Angeles Regional Week 4
  • Mexico City Regional
  • Minnesota 10,000 Lakes Regional
  • Minnesota North Star Regional
  • Queen City Regional
  • Hudson Valley Regional Week 4

136 Listed, 7-8 to go, total of 143-144 vs 127 for 2016 season or about 13% growth in number of events.

To be fair, Michigan Champs doesn't need to be posted for a while.

Koko Ed 14-09-2016 13:20

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1606760)
I'm pretty convinced there will be more than a few NY teams that are one event teams this year, not constrained by budget but by the event schedule. Who can game registration timing the best? That's who gets two plays.

Maybe Montreal will see a few more teams wandering across the border to play with them.

Bluman56 14-09-2016 15:54

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Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1606759)
I heard a rumor Long Island was going to be bigger this year to accommodate the redistribution of teams at events, but LI was already a 50 team event to begin with.

I legitimately don't know how NY is going to fit the teams that want to attend their events. TVR is going to be begging for teams to come, and HVR/NYC are going to be packed to the brim with a waitlist.

5254 could maybe attend Ohio events or Montreal, but it's super inconvenient. And even if we do HVR, we're pretty much guaranteed back to back events again!

Having attended and volunteered at LI, that place is filled to the brim. Other than removing the practice field, I see no way of getting more teams in there (and even then that would only add at most 4 teams).

Sperkowsky 14-09-2016 15:58

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Originally Posted by Bluman56 (Post 1606796)
Having attended and volunteered at LI, that place is filled to the brim. Other than removing the practice field, I see no way of getting more teams in there (and even then that would only add at most 4 teams).

Ditto I am amazed they fit the amount of teams that they do and still have 10x10 pits. Only thing I could think of is pushing the bleachers back but then I doubt there would be enough seats and viewing the event would be suboptimal.

EricH 14-09-2016 19:05

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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1606798)
Ditto I am amazed they fit the amount of teams that they do and still have 10x10 pits. Only thing I could think of is pushing the bleachers back but then I doubt there would be enough seats and viewing the event would be suboptimal.

There's the 8x8 pit option, but that's called "crowded". If you've got 4 pits in a row, you can squeeze 1 more in by doing that... at the expense of a decent pit size.

Mark McLeod 14-09-2016 19:22

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The number of SBPLI team pits is actually limited by Fire Marshal rules, because of the total number of people on the floor and in the facility.

ollien 14-09-2016 20:43

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Honestly, the situation in New York is upsetting. Aside from us not having Javits, a huge venue that is awesomely inspirational, Hudson Valley was supposed to allow MORE double plays in NY, not fewer. The upstate regionals are both on the same day, which would seem like, at least to me, upstate teams are going flock south. I'm hoping this is just a glitch and the capacities aren't actually this low, but I'd hate to see my last year be limited to one regional because of these low capacities.

If we had districts, this might be less of a problem, but as it stands, we don't. We just have largely downsized regionals.

Kevin Leonard 14-09-2016 21:57

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Originally Posted by ollien (Post 1606843)
Honestly, the situation in New York is upsetting. Aside from us not having Javits, a huge venue that is awesomely inspirational, Hudson Valley was supposed to allow MORE double plays in NY, not fewer. The upstate regionals are both on the same day, which would seem like, at least to me, upstate teams are going flock south. I'm hoping this is just a glitch and the capacities aren't actually this low, but I'd hate to see my last year be limited to one regional because of these low capacities.

If we had districts, this might be less of a problem, but as it stands, we don't. We just have largely downsized regionals.

On the bright side, this Hudson Valley event is definitely another step towards districts. It's just an awkward teenage step when combined with all the scheduling conflicts.

Brian Maher 14-09-2016 22:14

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I started a new thread to discuss the New York Regionals so we can keep this thread about more general event postings.

Brian Maher 15-09-2016 08:51

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Brazos Valley Regional in Waco, TX and ONT - District Windsor Essex Great Lakes Event, both posted for Week 5


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