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Richard Wallace 18-07-2016 17:02

Re: IRI 2016 Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by ArthurF (Post 1597377)
Looks like this forum is for 'happy thoughts' only. ...

I disagreed with someones statement of the strategy and apparently it is not allowed here. Please be reassured that you will not hear from me again.

I want to hear from you again.

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Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay (Post 1597379)
The people saying its not allowed are wrong, but it's not like you had to listen to them in the first place. They're on the other side of the internet.

Ty is completely correct. You have the same right to express thoughts as anyone on CD, or the entire internet for that matter.

mmorauske 18-07-2016 17:09

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First of all let me thank 67, 5254 and 3683 for joining us in the IRI playoffs. I can't help but feel that some of these comments are directed at me. If so, I am sincerely sorry if I offended anyone during the selection and playoff process. Monday morning quarterbacking leads me to think that MAYBE playing a defensive bot during the semi's would have changed the outcome. Just didn't think that we had the firepower to keep up with 2 bots. I sincerely hope that myself or our team did not leave a bad impression on anyone. We were ecstatic to receive our first invitation to IRI and had a blast the whole weekend. I think the highlight was our Q4 matches. So from myself and the whole 3620 team......thank you to our alliance and everyone that participated at IRI. It was a great experience that we will remember for many years to come.

wesbass23 18-07-2016 17:17

Re: IRI 2016 Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by ArthurF (Post 1597377)
Can't be less cryptic because people are already 'correcting me' for using team names. Looks like this forum is for 'happy thoughts' only. Let it be this way then.
Just for the record ... I have nothing against FRC nor IRI.

I disagreed with someones statement of the strategy and apparently it is not allowed here. Please be reassured that you will not hear from me again.

You could always make an anonymous account and start a new thread, that seems to go over well with most of CD.

bkahl 18-07-2016 17:24

Re: IRI 2016 Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by wesbass23 (Post 1597383)
You could always make an anonymous account and start a new thread, that seems to go over well with most of CD.


PayneTrain 18-07-2016 17:33

Re: IRI 2016 Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArthurF (Post 1597377)
Can't be less cryptic because people are already 'correcting me' for using team names. Looks like this forum is for 'happy thoughts' only.

*checks personal post history*

no, it's not

Alex Cormier 18-07-2016 20:18

Re: IRI 2016 Predictions
 
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Originally Posted by ArthurF (Post 1597364)
I have probably already crossed the line here so I would rather keep this 'intimate observation' to myself.
But it goes among the slightly modified version of : "if you can't beat them then join them". Having 4 teams on alliance gives you ability to take advantage of the above statement to the extends previously not realized by me.

I don't think it's hard to figure out what he's saying. At least in my mind.

pwnageNick 18-07-2016 21:06

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Originally Posted by Alex Cormier
I don't think it's hard to figure out what he's saying. At least in my mind.

I think it is. I was there for the weekend and somewhat around what was going on leading into alliance selection so I'm not sure what he's talking about as I didn't notice anything wrong or out of the ordinary from a standard event.

EmileH 18-07-2016 21:11

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you know it's the offseason when every single remotely controversial thread on CD is going to crap

congratulations, denizens

Aidan Cox 18-07-2016 21:15

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Originally Posted by EmileH (Post 1597428)
you know it's the offseason when every single remotely controversial thread on CD is going to crap

congratulations, denizens

Next time on The Real Housewives of Chief Delphi

Kevin Leonard 18-07-2016 22:03

Re: IRI 2016 Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArthurF (Post 1597377)
Can't be less cryptic because people are already 'correcting me' for using team names. Looks like this forum is for 'happy thoughts' only. Let it be this way then.
Just for the record ... I have nothing against FRC nor IRI.

I disagreed with someones statement of the strategy and apparently it is not allowed here. Please be reassured that you will not hear from me again.

I think the decisions made in semifinals about "who to play and who not to" were difficult, nuanced decisions, and giving up the firepower of any of the offensive robots on that alliance was a difficult decision to make.

I've been thinking quite a bit about how we could have played that differently. However I think the reason we lost has a lot more to do with our autonomous deficit and smart defense placements from our opponents than anything else.

5254 had been having some weird issues with our ramparts auto routine on the practice field, so placing the Sallyport in 3, the CDF in 4, and the Ramparts in 5 forced us to run our autonomous from position 2, where we wouldn't make the autonomous shot. 67 and 3620 were also inconsistently making autonomous, and 195 was making their 2 ball look like it was easy.

In addition, the CDF in 4 forced 5254 to take an extra few seconds to get into position to shoot every time we cycled over the ramparts. We regularly came out of autonomous 30-40 points behind, and even if we matched the #2 alliance in teleoperated scoring, and we got all three of our climbs up, we would lose based on auto alone.

I think our #3 alliance had a high ceiling- in that if we all made auto and climbed and hit our teleop shots, we could have matched that #2 alliance or exceeded them, but we were too inconsistent.

3683 might have been able to shut down 1114, and maybe even slow 195, but then we're still about even in teleop scoring and down after autonomous.

Thanks to 3620, 67, and 3683 for selecting us. The QF4 matches were some of the most exciting matches I've ever been a part of.

PatrickSJ 18-07-2016 22:32

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Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1597435)
The QF4 matches were some of the most exciting matches I've ever been a part of.

+1

Mike Schreiber 19-07-2016 12:52

Re: IRI 2016 Predictions
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ArthurF (Post 1597354)
Unless you can outscore the opponents (which in that case you could never do especially while missing the balls and have difficulties in climb) the only chance of wining this year game is deployment of the very capable defensive robot (analysis of the finals seams to completely conform this statement). 3620 - the captain of the third alliance made fatal decision of not playing 3683 which resulted in loss of semifinals. The third alliance had real chance to get all the way to the finals of the IRI2016.
I am glad we attended the competition. I personally have learned some internals of tactics associated with the alliance selection during IRI competition (which in my personal opinion are scored in very low on the ‘gracious professionalism’ scale). I guess the exposure early on in life to harsh real-life experiences (winning by all means is the priority #1 to some teams out there) together with the mission statement of FIRST is what makes this program great.
Thank you all it was an honor to be participate in the games.

Please PM me, I think I know specifically what you're referring to, but I'd like to confirm. Let's look at this as a learning experience. I can certainly say I don't think any decisions were made out of ego or malice.

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Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1597435)
I think the decisions made in semifinals about "who to play and who not to" were difficult, nuanced decisions, and giving up the firepower of any of the offensive robots on that alliance was a difficult decision to make.

Maybe we were wrong, maybe not. I still can't say with any certainty that we would have won in any configuration.

TheBoulderite 22-07-2016 00:19

Re: IRI 2016 Predictions
 
Missed the eliminations because of a backpacking trip. Here are my thoughts:

Congratulations to teams 2056, 118, 33, and 4587 for winning IRI! 2056, winning IRI four years in a row is very, very hard, but you've done it. Our alliance was honored to play against yours in the semis, and your win was well deserved. Also, great job to the finalist alliance of 1114, 195, 225, and 1405!

Thank you to our wonderful alliance partners 1241, 133, and 868. We were honored to be an alliance captain at IRI for the first time in our history, and we were excited to have such a strong alliance. Thanks for the ride to the semis, guys!

IRI was great this year, and I look forward to next year already. See you all then!

EmileH 22-07-2016 08:56

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We had an awesome time at IRI! Check out our 2016 IRI Recap video.

Unfortunately, we were not picked, however we want to thank all the teams who attended who showed us how to play at a higher level. Also, we want to thank the event organizers and volunteers who put on a wonderfully orchestrated and well-planned event. And lastly, our sponsors and parents, who helped make the trip possible.


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