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DaBruteForceGuy 30-10-2002 16:34

Here Is The Key To Fundraising Success "that's The Ticket"!!!
 
EVERYBODY WHO NEEDS HELP WITH FUNDRAISING, LISTEN UP!!!
We are in our second year and what we do is raffle raffle raffle. We write tons of letters to companies summerizing the objective of FIRST and in turn they send us "stuff". We raffle it off and get $!! Pretty simple huh. Now this is by far, not the main sponsorship income of our team, but it is some great funds for tools, parts and food :rolleyes:. Now it really seems like chump change but by raffling big ticket items like video game consols, computers, televisions... The money really starts to *cha-ching* on the register. Just to give u an idea about how this is a great way to get started for rookie teams is our latest projected, big ticketed item to raffle....... a MERCEDES!!!!!!!!!!!

OneAngryDaisy 30-10-2002 18:10

I completely agree- we do them all of the time
I was talking about raffles in another thread and a lot of people were saying that it was illegal for them to hold raffles- did you have to get a license or something?

Jon K. 30-10-2002 19:56

In many states you have to get a special license to hold raffles otherwise you are breaking a law which wouldn't look to good on FIRST's record.

Nelly51987 31-10-2002 21:47

hoooold on there killer
 
hold on... for that fundraiser... what companies do you ask to donate all that stuff?? they just give it to you??:confused:

Redhead Jokes 31-10-2002 22:00

I learned to my amazement that just for the asking, we get stuff.

Doesn't mean sometimes I get laughed at with a resounding, "NO."

Doesn't mean they always say yes.

What's especially worked for us is asking all team members who their parents work for. Home Club got us a shop vac, Boeing is trying to get us funding, got our facility's microwave and toaster oven, head of ad agency making our posters...

The local electronics store nicely gave us $500 on account. Don't know if we'll spend it all.

Local paint store gave us the paint for our facility...

I was reading about these raffles, and figure I'll put some energy into that next year.

DaBruteForceGuy 01-11-2002 12:17

RAFFLES ILLEGAL???
 
I've never heard such a thing about raffles. We don't hold raffles in the school btw, that isn't allowed, but otherwise i don't think that there is anything wrong with it.
In the way of getting the stuff to raffle, we do a lot of networking. Networking is an art, the ability to talk to companies, talk to the most imprtant people and get people interested enough to want to donate. Companys LOVE to donate stuff to FIRST for many reasons. So when u write letters to these companys, be optimistic about it and just keep pushing. Don't get discouraged by the size of the companys, because no matter how big a company is there is always room for things like this.

Brandon Martus 01-11-2002 12:26

Re: RAFFLES ILLEGAL???
 
Quote:

Originally posted by DaBruteForceGuy
I've never heard such a thing about raffles.
Don't know about other states, but here is a document about raffles, lotteries, and such in Michigan.

Jon K. 01-11-2002 15:04

Your best bet to see what you have to do to hold a raffle in your state is to go to the states web site.

Shana 06-11-2002 18:17

Raffles illegal?
 
A way to get around the illegality of raffles is to be selling something, such as candy, and with every candy they buy they get a free ticket to be entered into a drawing of whatever prize you have. This is a simple trick that a lot of High Schools in Az do so that they can avoid this problem.

Madison 06-11-2002 19:07

Re: hoooold on there killer
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Nelly51987
hold on... for that fundraiser... what companies do you ask to donate all that stuff?? they just give it to you??:confused:
More or less, yes.

In many cases, companies are interested in donating their product for raffle to raise awareness.

The Mercedes-Benz is a bigger deal. We've worked with a local dealer, and he's passing along a car to us at cost. We need to pay for the car, and then we keep all profit on top that. This won't work for all areas, it's a big risk, and a big investment. But, if the raffle goes as we expect it to, we stand to make money that rivals the funding of some corporate giants.

Money isn't everything, though. Sometimes, a good engineer is worth two Mercedes Benz's.

Brandon Martus 06-11-2002 19:10

Re: Re: hoooold on there killer
 
Quote:

Originally posted by M. Krass

The Mercedes-Benz ...

How much are you selling tickets for?

Madison 06-11-2002 20:31

Re: Re: Re: hoooold on there killer
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Brandon Martus


How much are you selling tickets for?

We're not certain yet.

It'll be 1000 tickets @ $50 apiece -or- 500 tickets @ $100 apiece.

Probably the former.

Jnadke 06-11-2002 21:16

Re: Re: Re: Re: hoooold on there killer
 
Quote:

Originally posted by M. Krass


We're not certain yet.

It'll be 1000 tickets @ $50 apiece -or- 500 tickets @ $100 apiece.

Probably the former.


2000 tickets @ $25 a piece sounds more affordable...

Less odds of winning tho... Dunno if that's a good tradeoff or not.

DaBruteForceGuy 07-11-2002 18:29

Well, yea
 
The raffle odds would be less if the price of the raffle goes down. But a great way to avoid the whole "odds" shpeele altogether is not to say the odds at all:D But i guess that wouldn't fly good if they are buying a raffle for a car:rolleyes:


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Mike Martus 10-11-2002 15:13

Raffle
 
Chief Delphi has been doing a raffle for the past 4 years. We raise in profit between $6000.00 and $10,000.00 depending on team size and activities. Here are a few points:

In Michigan I apply for a raffle license with the State Lottery Commission. This costs $50.00 for their approval. You are then bonded and held accountable to many rules.

Each team member is REQUIRED to sell 60 tickets at $5.00 each.

So for a team of 30 students you have 1800 tickets x $5.00. Thats $9600.00 minus License, minus cost of ticket printing, minus 3 prizes.

I get a Laptop Computer, a TV set, A DVD player cost $1600.00.

All the rest is pure profit. The more tickets you sell, the more profit for the team.

I like this fundraiser because it is time effective and has a high yield with a guarantee because each student is REQUIREd to sell or purchase the tickets.

Gope 10-11-2002 20:24

2 bad
 
too bad thats illegal man....maybe you should look into some other form of fund raising

DaBruteForceGuy 10-11-2002 20:34

Re: 2 bad
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gope
too bad thats illegal man....maybe you should look into some other form of fund raising
I don't know what the laws are in other states but i don't think that raffling off donated items is illicit. (atleast not here in NY, in my school). earlier in the thred u would read what highschools do to prevent illicit raffling.

Madison 10-11-2002 20:56

Re: 2 bad
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Gope
too bad thats illegal man....maybe you should look into some other form of fund raising
Raffling items for the benefit of charitable and educational organizations is a legal form of fund-raising in New York State.

We are familiar with the law in this case and are operating within its confines.

Rather than spread our business foolishly about the Internet, if you have any further concerns regarding the procedures, legiticimacy or practice of this raffle, please contact me in private via the Private Message feature. I will be more than happy to answer questions.

FotoPlasma 10-11-2002 20:59

To my knowledge, raffles are considered gambling, and are therefore are illegal in California. I only speak of California, and if I'm wrong, alert me to it immediately.

Cory 15-11-2002 23:24

Quote:

Originally posted by FotoPlasma
To my knowledge, raffles are considered gambling, and are therefore are illegal in California. I only speak of California, and if I'm wrong, alert me to it immediately.
I don' think raffles are illegal in CA. I have sold tickets for my classes that were for raffles sponsored by the Lion's Club (Or something like that) im pretty sure they are not illegal, but I also may be wrong.

Collin Fultz 19-11-2002 08:24

there are always ways around the rules. if "raffles" are illegal, then hold a "donation fundraiser" where all the people interested give a donation (it's good to have a suggested donation i.e. the ticket price) then, as a result of their donation they recieve a ticket which gives them the opportunity to possibly win a "free" car, as a way of saying "thank you" from the team.


of course, if you don't want to bend some rules, serious gravelling is always good. never underestimate the power of kissing up to somebody.

FotoPlasma 19-11-2002 11:06

Quote:

Originally posted by collin234
there are always ways around the rules. if "raffles" are illegal, then hold a "donation fundraiser" where all the people interested give a donation (it's good to have a suggested donation i.e. the ticket price) then, as a result of their donation they recieve a ticket which gives them the opportunity to possibly win a "free" car, as a way of saying "thank you" from the team.
I doubt that would hold up.

http://www.svcn.com/archives/sunnyva...8/Raffles.html

Not saying that no teams in California do it, but I wouldn't. I'm philosophically opposed to gambling.

<edit>
heh...
http://primary2000.ss.ca.gov/VoterGuide/pdf/17.pdf
Guess it's okay if you're a charitable organization?
</edit>

Shana 19-11-2002 14:39

Quote:

Originally posted by FotoPlasma


I doubt that would hold up.

No it does hold up, in fact thats what Az schools tell you to do if you come along one of those situations. Or you could always do what I suggested a first, to sell candy. When they buy the candy they recieve a free ticket for a prize winning drawing, its that easy.

Dan 550 19-11-2002 22:12

Car Raffle
 
About these car raffles...

As a school, we have numerous vehicles that have been donated for use by the auto shop by both manufacturers and dealers. We have a 1997 Ford Windstar (good condition), a 2002 Chevrolet Astro conversion van (originally bound for Tokyo, but involved in a minor front-end collision while rolling off the assembly line), a 2002 Chevrolet Cavalier 4-door (excellent condition), and a 1997 Infiniti Q45 (excellent condition) donated from factory or dealer in addition to a few cars that have been donated (read: abandoned) by individuals. Last year, while short on funds, someone raised the question of auctioning or selling these cars. The sea of paperwork involved in just applying for authorization from the school board was astounding, then the whole other side of applying for rights to the revenue...I think you're getting the drift. The school board is not the robotics team's friend.


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