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EricH 05-12-2016 20:41

Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Got a couple of announcements and reminders.

1) No drafts tomorrow, folks. Enjoy the evening off. Tech Valley and Greater Pittsburgh are Wednesday night. If you see those drafts pop up, don't sweat it, you aren't late (until Wednesday).

2) For the draft runners, I just uploaded an updated version (3.2.3) of the program. The only change is to allow lists with "Random" to, well, pick random, automatically. Next up are a couple of changes to do the same for random rookies and possibly a couple of other minor tweaks (think "convenience"--like being able to just rotate the player list from the last time, or being able to tell at a glance which player(s) have lists).

3) We're still looking for someone to run Bayou, a week from tomorrow. That's the only hole left (other than a possible one in Colorado on 12/11).


Oh, and I'm pretty sure this is the first time we've made it for 20 drafts from season start with perfect attendance, ever. Usually I've sent at least one boot warning by now...

MARS_James 05-12-2016 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1619590)
3) We're still looking for someone to run Bayou, a week from tomorrow. That's the only hole left (other than a possible one in Colorado on 12/11).

I can handle Colorado no worries, not Bayou though it is on our regular meeting time and we have a field to build

EricH 05-12-2016 20:59

Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1619592)
I can handle Colorado no worries, not Bayou though it is on our regular meeting time and we have a field to build

We have a volunteer for Bayou, think we're good!

jlmcmchl 05-12-2016 21:02

Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Eric,

Have you been able to determine if we were planning to use the old ranking points system (20 12 12 6 6 ...) or the district ranking points system for scoring?

EricH 05-12-2016 21:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jlmcmchl (Post 1619594)
Eric,

Have you been able to determine if we were planning to use the old ranking points system (20 12 12 6 6 ...) or the district ranking points system for scoring?

Not yet.

Edit: On further review...

No determination. Any chance TBC can check the scoring system from last year? At this point in time, I don't see a reason to change the system from last year's, other than to exempt Culture Change awards from district averaging, and possibly to adjust district scoring (some discussion of removing inter-district points from the count and/or normalizing scores to two events rather than averaging all events).

MARS_James 05-12-2016 21:48

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Either I missed something or am misunderstanding.

In 2015 we switched over from giving the win loss points to the district ranking points because there was no win loss. I thought we kept the same in 2016 because our ranking wasn't based on win loss but on QP. Basically I thought we replaced the 2 points for a win 1 for a tie and 0 for a loss with the district ranking 2 years in a row (To also normalize the points between large and small events) but kept the ranking bonus points the same to reward the teams who understood how to rank well.

So did we switch it between the two years or keep it the same I honestly don't remember.

EricH 05-12-2016 22:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1619603)
In 2015 we switched over from giving the win loss points to the district ranking points because there was no win loss. I thought we kept the same in 2016 because our ranking wasn't based on win loss but on QP. Basically I thought we replaced the 2 points for a win 1 for a tie and 0 for a loss with the district ranking 2 years in a row (To also normalize the points between large and small events) but kept the ranking bonus points the same to reward the teams who understood how to rank well.

So did we switch it between the two years or keep it the same I honestly don't remember.

I want to say that's correct, but I don't remember either. I'll try to figure that out at some point this week.

BrennanB 05-12-2016 22:27

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We kept it the same as 2015.

EricH 05-12-2016 22:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1619610)
We kept it the same as 2015.

I don't think we saw any issues with that, so we'll keep it the same again*.


*Unless the GDC completely removes ranking points or an equivalent from determining rank. In which case, we'll discuss fallback options. Discussion if any to start no earlier than 1/7/17 :cool:.

MARS_James 05-12-2016 23:15

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Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1619613)
I don't think we saw any issues with that, so we'll keep it the same again*.


*Unless the GDC completely removes ranking points .

"Welcome to the 2017 FIRST Robotics Competition game Steamworks"

*90 seconds later*

"Steamworks like the industrial revolution does not have an anyone can succeed ranking system, instead the top teams are decided by who has the most blue banners historically, any ties will be broke by oldest blue banner. There will be no picking in the top 8 and no matches but instead exhibitions for the top teams to observe and decided who to hire for their alliance"

Fantasy FIRST then becomes basically a stockmarket instead of a Fantasy sports league

jlmcmchl 06-12-2016 01:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1619623)
"Welcome to the 2017 FIRST Robotics Competition game Steamworks"

*90 seconds later*

"Steamworks like the industrial revolution does not have an anyone can succeed ranking system, instead the top teams are decided by who has the most blue banners historically, any ties will be broke by oldest blue banner. There will be no picking in the top 8 and no matches but instead exhibitions for the top teams to observe and decided who to hire for their alliance"

Fantasy FIRST then becomes basically a stockmarket instead of a Fantasy sports league

We'll start investing in a full integration of BBQ into TBA and call it RIBMEATS instead of STEAM

TDav540 06-12-2016 08:03

Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
QD and Falcon have completed the following trade:
Falcon receives:
#4 and #15 at San Francisco
#2 and #17 at Rocket City

QD receives:
#2 and #17 at San Francisco
#9 and #10 at Rocket City

MARS_James 06-12-2016 10:01

Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
So how are we doing requests for teams who join an event after the draft, but before season starts? Waiver or first come first serve?

BrennanB 06-12-2016 12:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1619675)
So how are we doing requests for teams who join an event after the draft, but before season starts? Waiver or first come first serve?

All team will be wavered. Highly prefered in a private way so teams don't snipe us for our hard work.

MARS_James 06-12-2016 13:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1619699)
All team will be wavered. Highly prefered in a private way so teams don't snipe us for our hard work.

This is highly challenging as everyone involved is on a team


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