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MARS_James 20-12-2016 20:27
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1622557)
Here's the New Team Order for Lone Star North

Code:
F3
FIRST Pick
The Breakfast Company
Questionable Decisionmakers
Falcon
The Regal Falcons
Untitled Team
Swamp Life
NE Way You Want It
I posted the order 3 days ago:

Quote:
Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1621927)
So since I am running the next draft set I figured I would post the draft order:

FIRST Pick
Swamp Life
The Breakfast Company
Untitled Team
Questionable Decisionmakers
F3
NE Way You Want It
The Regal Falcons
Falcon
Is there something wrong with it?

JosephC 20-12-2016 20:28
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1622558)
I posted the order 3 days ago:



Is there something wrong with it?
Nope! I missed it and Brennan told me it wasn't posted. (Blame Brennan for that one)

BrennanB 20-12-2016 20:29
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1622559)
Nope! I missed it and Brennan told me it wasn't posted. (Blame Brennan for that one)
Err my bad!

MARS_James 20-12-2016 20:31
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1622560)
Err my bad!
I was making the thread and got so confused

JosephC 20-12-2016 20:36
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Figured I'd bring this up now so something can be decided on how to handle it.

Chesapeake is our final draft of the year, however, it's also the 10th draft after a randomized list, meaning the event itself should be randomized. However, since it's the last event, there won't be any rotation to speak of afterward.

Basically means certain teams will be getting an advantage over others due a single randomized draft.

Personally, I think one event isn't a huge deal. However, being a District draft, there will be ramifications for its DCMP.

Open to suggestions, I figure no matter what happens someones going to get the short of the stick.

Edit - this also happens to Touluca.

MARS_James 20-12-2016 20:51
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1622564)
Figured I'd bring this up now so something can be decided on how to handle it.

Chesapeake is our final draft of the year, however, it's also the 10th draft after a randomized list, meaning the event itself should be randomized. However, since it's the last event, there won't be any rotation to speak of afterward.

Basically means certain teams will be getting an advantage over others due a single randomized draft.

Personally, I think one event isn't a huge deal. However, being a District draft, there will be ramifications for its DCMP.

Open to suggestions, I figure no matter what happens someones going to get the short of the stick.

Edit - this also happens to Touluca.
Brought this up earlier in the thread:

Quote:
Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1619203)
Also looking at the sheet if we keep the multiday drafts the way they have been previously then we technically need another random for Chesapeake district.
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1619346)
Just as a note, Toluca is in the same boat, as randomization triggers at Israel for the DCMP drafts.

The general plan was that the rotation would simply run once again if the remaining drafts were <1/2 of one rotation, and only re-randomize if that wasn't the case.

Oh, right, and about the waiver priority: It's rookie players in order of signup, then returning players in reverse order of last year's finish (as much as possible). Hmmm.... Now there's an idea...

Any objections to running Toluca and Chesapeake on straight waiver priority?

JosephC 20-12-2016 20:53
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
I object, means teams that are actively making waiver trades get shafted by being low picks. I would rather just Randomize Touluca and Israel, that way all Districts are part of a rotation, minimizing randomization effects on DCMPs.

Edit - Apparently Israel is a district too, I'd still prefer randomization over using waiver priority though.

MARS_James 20-12-2016 21:02
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1622573)
I object, means teams that are actively making waiver trades get shafted by being low picks. I would rather just Randomize Touluca and Israel, that way all Districts are part of a rotation, minimizing randomization effects on DCMPs.

Edit - Apparently Israel is a district too, I'd still prefer randomization over using waiver priority though.
Kind of agree with you here just an extra random for Touluca, then another for chesapeake should be fine.

tindleroot 20-12-2016 21:42
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Of course, to partially even out those two randomizations (even though it won't make drafting *completely* fair), we could simply make Chesapeake the reverse order of Toluca.

JosephC 20-12-2016 21:52
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by tindleroot (Post 1622592)
Of course, to partially even out those two randomizations (even though it won't make drafting *completely* fair), we could simply make Chesapeake the reverse order of Toluca.
Seconded, seems like a good way to go IMO. Reduces crazy swings in picks(Like 1 team getting FP at both, or last pick at both). Sure, CHS top picks might be slightly more important, but no matter what someone is going to get a shorter end of the stick than someone else, and this seems best overall.

MARS_James 20-12-2016 21:54
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1622594)
Seconded, seems like a good way to go IMO
Thirded

Also I really hope two teams don't drop out of lonestar central cause then we would need to redraft and split it

EricH 20-12-2016 23:26
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1622596)
Thirded

Also I really hope two teams don't drop out of lonestar central cause then we would need to redraft and split it
I'm down with the two-draft cycle. So... Laguna is random, Chesapeake is reverse of Laguna. I've flagged those two bright green in the sheet.


I believe there's some contingency for being short a team during scoring, but it's been so long since we've come close to using it that I can't remember what it is. If someone notices a dropout before the event, we could probably arrange a redraft.

Brian Maher 20-12-2016 23:32
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1622612)
I'm down with the two-draft cycle. So... Laguna is random, Chesapeake is reverse of Laguna. I've flagged those two bright green in the sheet.


I believe there's some contingency for being short a team during scoring, but it's been so long since we've come close to using it that I can't remember what it is. If someone notices a dropout before the event, we could probably arrange a redraft.
I like this idea, though I'm not a huge fan of the idea of pairing Laguna (32 teams) and CHS (132 teams last year). I think it would make more sense to use the flipped Laguna ordering for one of the smaller districts, such as IN (49 teams last year) or NC (52 teams last year), and keep CHS as part of the district rotation.

EricH 20-12-2016 23:36
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brian Maher (Post 1622617)
I like this idea, though I'm not a huge fan of the idea of pairing Laguna (32 teams) and CHS (132 teams last year). I think it would make more sense to use the flipped Laguna ordering for one of the smaller districts, such as IN (49 teams last year) or NC (52 teams last year), and keep CHS as part of the district rotation.
Also works for me.

EricH 21-12-2016 18:00
Re: [FF]: 2017 Season Long Fantasy FIRST
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1622618)
Also works for me.
I looked up the current numbers for the districts. Indiana (62 teams) draws the short straw as the smallest district, and will be the reverse of the Toluca draft order. Cheseapeake will take the last slot of the district rotation.


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