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JosephC 25-12-2016 08:00

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I'm unable to run a draft this Monday or this Friday due to family matters that have come up today, so Alamo and Indiana will need a runner.

MARS_James 25-12-2016 08:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1623430)
I'm unable to run a draft this Monday or this Friday due to family matters that have come up today, so Alamo and Indiana will need a runner.

I got you, if the family matters are positive enjoy your holidays, if they are negative I hope things improve.

EricH 26-12-2016 20:29

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In the interests of knowledge, the draft order for the districts (other than Indiana) will be:

FIRST Pick
The Regal Falcons
The Breakfast Company
Swamp Life
Falcon
Questionable Decisionmakers
Untitled Team
NE Way You Want It
F3

Reminder that district drafts will not allow slot trades.

Israel will be up a little on the early side (later tonight)--I'll likely be running a hair late that day.

MARS_James 26-12-2016 20:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1623551)
In the interests of knowledge, the draft order for the districts (other than Indiana) will be:

FIRST Pick
The Regal Falcons
The Breakfast Company
Swamp Life
Falcon
Questionable Decisionmakers
Untitled Team
NE Way You Want It
F3

Cool I am first pick in Ontario, that's OP

EricH 26-12-2016 21:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1623554)
Cool I am first pick in Ontario, that's OP

Yeah... I was wondering if I should just put "2056" in the first slot there... Ain't NOBODY gonna pass that one up!

And now I'm wondering if I should just put out the three I've got set up--yeah. Not happening.

But if someone decides to send a list for Israel, Peachtree, or Ontario my way, I've got those three set up and ready to post (if they aren't already posted).

Brian Maher 26-12-2016 21:40

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The scoring for district teams will be the average of their internal district event scores excluding culture award (DCA/DEI/DRAS) points plus their total culture award points, right?

EricH 26-12-2016 21:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Maher (Post 1623557)
The scoring for district teams will be the average of their internal district event scores excluding culture award (DCA/DEI/DRAS) points plus their total culture award points, right?

Correct.

JosephC 29-12-2016 18:29

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Brennan is running North Carolina for me tonight since I'm pretty sick, I've forwarded him the lists I received from QD, FP, and NEWYWI.

Golfer4646 30-12-2016 21:08

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F3 and The Breakfast Company have agreed to the following trade.

F3 receives:
2338 - at the Central Illinois Regional
3418 - at the Seven Rivers Regional
3277 - at the Lake Superior Regional

The Breakfast Company receives:
2481 - at the Central Illinois Regional
269 - at the Seven Rivers Regional
3293 - at the Lake Superior Regional

EricH 30-12-2016 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Golfer4646 (Post 1624089)
F3 and The Breakfast Company have agreed to the following trade.

F3 receives:
2338 - at the Central Illinois Regional
3418 - at the Seven Rivers Regional
3277 - at the Lake Superior Regional

The Breakfast Company receives:
2481 - at the Central Illinois Regional
269 - at the Seven Rivers Regional
3293 - at the Lake Superior Regional

Confirmed, will apply changes in main spreadsheet (once I finish updating it).

EricH 31-12-2016 14:30

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Some of you might notice that New England, MAR, and Chesapeake are all up. I'm looking at a possibly very busy weekend around Kickoff (for reasons unrelated to Kickoff), so I'd like to get through those relatively quickly. Officially, the drafts aren't until Monday or later. OTOH, they're open.

For NE and MAR, there will be a minor pause once the first day is done to allow for the reset to the next day (reverse order and clean up the available-teams list).

TDav540 01-01-2017 00:32

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First trade of the New Year (for us east coasters, that is. Last trade of 2016 for you Central, Mountain, and West Coasters)!

Falcon Receives:
4590 @ Israel
2158 @ Colorado
3250 @ Sacramento

QD Receives:
2212 @ Israel
662 @ Colorado
1678 @ Sacramento

TDav540 01-01-2017 15:27

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So, one thing we noticed while looking at the MAR, Ontario, and Chesapeake team lists is that both Ontario (146 teams) and Chesapeake (129 teams) have more teams than MAR (120 teams). However, MAR is the only district of these three to have a six-round draft. That seems a little odd to me, especially since Chesapeake had a round 2 last year.

We understand that we're probably a little late to schedule a second round for Ontario and Chesapeake, especially considering we're less than a week from kickoff. That's just something odd we noticed that doesn't make sense. We think it wouldn't be a bad idea to run a second Chesapeake round and a second Ontario round starting around 8:30 pm on 1/6/17 (or earlier for Ontario), but we also understand if that's too short notice.

BrennanB 01-01-2017 15:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TDav540 (Post 1624312)
So, one thing we noticed while looking at the MAR, Ontario, and Chesapeake team lists is that both Ontario (146 teams) and Chesapeake (129 teams) have more teams than MAR (120 teams). However, MAR is the only district of these three to have a six-round draft. That seems a little odd to me, especially since Chesapeake had a round 2 last year.

We understand that we're probably a little late to schedule a second round for Ontario and Chesapeake, especially considering we're less than a week from kickoff. That's just something odd we noticed that doesn't make sense. We think it wouldn't be a bad idea to run a second Chesapeake round and a second Ontario round starting around 8:30 pm on 1/6/17 (or earlier for Ontario), but we also understand if that's too short notice.

TBC would be fine with this.

niklas674 01-01-2017 15:54

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TRF also agrees with this.

MARS_James 01-01-2017 17:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TDav540 (Post 1624312)
So, one thing we noticed while looking at the MAR, Ontario, and Chesapeake team lists is that both Ontario (146 teams) and Chesapeake (129 teams) have more teams than MAR (120 teams). However, MAR is the only district of these three to have a six-round draft. That seems a little odd to me, especially since Chesapeake had a round 2 last year.

We understand that we're probably a little late to schedule a second round for Ontario and Chesapeake, especially considering we're less than a week from kickoff. That's just something odd we noticed that doesn't make sense. We think it wouldn't be a bad idea to run a second Chesapeake round and a second Ontario round starting around 8:30 pm on 1/6/17 (or earlier for Ontario), but we also understand if that's too short notice.

Swamp Life has some concerns. Despite having less teams MAR has a much deeper field than Chesapeake which was dominated by a select few teams last year.

I personally feel that Ontario as a new district, that under the regional system was dominated by a small amount of teams will be the same.

All that creating double drafts for them will accomplish is increasing the likely hood of someone picking a team who has a fluke good year and getting a point bonus. That isnt skill its luck.

Basically in my opinion Chesapeake showed a shallow field and until a new district shows otherwise it should be treated as such as well.

EricH 01-01-2017 18:40

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Something I think we've done once or twice is to run a 4th round for an extra team. That's something that could be worked in fairly quickly, if we thought it was worth it.

TDav540 01-01-2017 19:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1624327)
...

Basically in my opinion Chesapeake showed a shallow field and until a new district shows otherwise it should be treated as such as well.

That's probably a bad attitude for if/when Minnesota arrives to districts, but to each his own.

Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1624338)
Something I think we've done once or twice is to run a 4th round for an extra team. That's something that could be worked in fairly quickly, if we thought it was worth it.

I'm fine with this. There are plenty of good teams left to draft at both, even if not everyone wants to do the full extra three. But we'd still prefer a full set.

EricH 01-01-2017 20:47

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Something has come up, and I'm going to have to push NE back a day (or so).

That being said, I don't have any problems at all with keeping NE up until the 6th, advancing as time and picks allow. So what I'm thinking is that the first round of NE will be "through" probably Thursday unless picks come in (they have been, TBC is on what clock I'm keeping for their 2nd pick), and the second round will take the second slot on Friday (if we get lucky, Chesapeake will be through most of its rounds too).


As far as extra roundage... Ontario is currently complete, so I don't think it's worth re-opening and running another draft round there. For Chesapeake, I think we can add 1 more runthrough with no issues--it'd be 9-1 order, 1-minute timing.

MARS_James 01-01-2017 21:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TDav540 (Post 1624349)
That's probably a bad attitude for if/when Minnesota arrives to districts, but to each his own.

So looking at the last 3 years of Minnesota Regionals, the number of slots for veterans they can produce (3 Winners, Chairman's, EI, our 3 largest point scorers) is 60. Of those 60, 17 went to out of state teams, bringing it down to 43. Those 43 slots were won by 24 teams. In a state that had 208 teams last year that is horrible.

JosephC 01-01-2017 21:50

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Generally speaking, districts have been dominated by fewer teams during their first one or two years, as the benefits gained by having a district system have yet to be fruitful for the majority of teams. Ya can't benefit from districts til you go through at least a year of em. There are exceptions of course, but they are far and in between. Anyways, it's probably a discussion for a different place :P

TDav540 01-01-2017 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MARS_James (Post 1624364)
So looking at the last 3 years of Minnesota Regionals, the number of slots for veterans they can produce (3 Winners, Chairman's, EI, our 3 largest point scorers) is 60. Of those 60, 17 went to out of state teams, bringing it down to 43. Those 43 slots were won by 24 teams. In a state that had 208 teams last year that is horrible.

Okay. Cool? They have four regionals per year. With 60+ teams at each. I suspect that when they expand to the 11+ district events they'll have to have, there will be a little more diversity in the success of teams.

EricH 01-01-2017 22:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TDav540 (Post 1624367)
Okay. Cool? They have four regionals per year. With 60+ teams at each. I suspect that when they expand to the 11+ district events they'll have to have, there will be a little more diversity in the success of teams.

As Joseph pointed out, it might take a year or two to get much beyond that. Chesapeake is barely at that point; MAR has been there for a few years.

Obviously I'll be taking at least some of that into consideration for next year's drafting schedule (as well as TX going district--that one's a known factor!).

JosephC 01-01-2017 22:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TDav540 (Post 1624367)
Okay. Cool? They have four regionals per year. With 60+ teams at each. I suspect that when they expand to the 11+ district events they'll have to have, there will be a little more diversity in the success of teams.

Yes, there will be more success if diversity. More events = more points to be earned. However that does not mean that the actual quality of those teams will instantly increase due to the adaptation of the district system, it should take minimum a year until you see an increase in team performance due to the district, anything else outside of extreme outliers is due to other factors.

Personally, I think the only district that warrants a double draft is FIM with its 400+ teams, but thats just me.

Brian Maher 01-01-2017 22:39

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So, to confirm, we will not be held to the times on the NE draft tomorrow, correct?

EricH 01-01-2017 23:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Maher (Post 1624375)
So, to confirm, we will not be held to the times on the NE draft tomorrow, correct?

Correct. They'll be for Thursday instead. However, I would encourage anybody looking at NE to go ahead if they are the next pick--I'll update whenever I can.

niklas674 02-01-2017 21:43

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What was the deal with the fim and pnw drafts today?

TDav540 02-01-2017 21:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by niklas674 (Post 1624587)
What was the deal with the fim and pnw drafts today?

FiM isn't drafting today. It starts 1/4.

No comment on PNW.

JosephC 02-01-2017 22:03

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Due to Comcast once again being unreliable as all hell and having "technical downtime in my area" with no prior warning, PNW will be suspended a day. PNW #1 - 1/3 7pm, PNW #2 - 1/4 7pm.

That, or we can magically finish PNW #1 up before 7pm tomorrow, but I have no problem running PNW #2 and FIM #1 at the same time.

Jay O'Donnell 02-01-2017 22:14

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Can someone post a quick list of when all of the drafts are that are left?

EricH 02-01-2017 22:17

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NE: Open, 1st "day" ends Thursday, 2nd day on Friday (1/6).
PNW: Open, pushed back to tomorrow (1/3) and Wednesday (1/4).
MAR: Open, 1/4 and 1/5.
MI: Open, 1/4 and 1/5.
Chesapeake: Open, 1/6.

DCMPs draft in March and April.

JosephC 02-01-2017 22:20

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1/3 - PNW #1
1/4 - MAR #1, FIM #1, PNW #2
1/5 - MAR #2, FIM #2, NE #1
1/6 - NE #2, CHS

Pretty sure that's right.

EricH 04-01-2017 20:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephC (Post 1624605)
1/3 - PNW #1
1/4 - MAR #1, FIM #1, PNW #2
1/5 - MAR #2, FIM #2, NE #1
1/6 - NE #2, CHS

Pretty sure that's right.

And now it's:
1/5: MAR #2 (up now--Untitled's pick, Round 1), FIM #2, NE #1 (up now--Untitled's pick, Round 2)
1/6: NE #2, CHS (up now--Untitled's pick, Round 1)

I don't have many lists for MAR, NE, and CHS (Chesapeake), so picks are appreciated.

EmileH 05-01-2017 19:30

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Who's running FIM?

niklas674 05-01-2017 19:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EmileH (Post 1625656)
Who's running FIM?

It appears to be Brennan right now

EricH 05-01-2017 19:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EmileH (Post 1625656)
Who's running FIM?

It looks like Joseph's internet went out again. Brennan seems to have taken up the slack, at least for now.

BrennanB 05-01-2017 19:31

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I can do what I can. F3 probably has a list in tho and don't really want to random them. If people could just live pick that would be good.

niklas674 05-01-2017 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BrennanB (Post 1625659)
I can do what I can. F3 probably has a list in tho and don't really want to random them. If people could just live pick that would be good.

I sent them a message in f4. Should be on shortly.

EricH 06-01-2017 21:02

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The regular-season drafts are now over. That doesn't mean we're done yet...

Waivers should be going up next week, if there are any. There's one minor change to that, at least for the duration of this season (and to be discussed on the offseason), which is that if you are missing a team, you will now only get a 3-spot boost if you claim a team from waivers (or less, if that puts you at the top). This is a return to the original intent of that feature, many years ago, of a minor boost. (Recently it's been a "first to claim, but you lose your spot" instead.)


Also, DCMP drafts are scheduled for March and April. I've tried to schedule them on days events AREN'T happening as best I can.


And one final note:
For the first time in SLFF history*, we haven't even had to issue a warning for attendance. I could issue a combined one to 4 playing teams, but nobody had more than 2 absences total. Awesome job, guys!



*Nobody got booted at all during the '08 season draft. "5-misses-and-warning-and-out" was implemented the following season.

EricH 12-01-2017 21:02

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Just for awareness: Expect a full waiver to commence in the next couple of days, under policy "Smokescreen". I'm currently working to generate that, and have been flagging MIA teams as I go.



"Smokescreen": If I get 1 waiver claim, I run a full waiver--all events--to camouflage who is claiming and who they're claiming.


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