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asid61 10-08-2016 09:26

pic: 7.5" tall robot, ready to shoot
 

Kevin Leonard 10-08-2016 09:28

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So would this theoretical robot be able to cross under the low bar while holding a ball? It seems like in order to do anything useful it needs to be in the taller position.

SenorZ 10-08-2016 10:02

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I like it.
I brought up a "collapsing" shooter idea after build season, as a side project.
My team all shook their heads. :rolleyes:

Chris is me 10-08-2016 10:40

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Is there anything locking the shooter in position when it is in the firing position? It seems at least plausible that the ball being forced into the shooter could cause the shooter to give a little bit while firing, and generally you want all the rigidity you can get with such a system for consistency reasons.

I like the intake and shooter articulating together as it probably adds a lot of consistency to the ball loading.

Just curious - how are you avoiding this mechanism tangling with the battery cable when it folds up?

asid61 10-08-2016 13:48

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Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1600445)
So would this theoretical robot be able to cross under the low bar while holding a ball? It seems like in order to do anything useful it needs to be in the taller position.

100%. As long as the hood is down (which it is as long as its not shooting the ball) the robot can go under the low bar with ease.

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Originally Posted by SenorZ (Post 1600446)
I like it.
I brought up a "collapsing" shooter idea after build season, as a side project.
My team all shook their heads. :rolleyes:

I'm surprised more teams didn't go with the 4-bar. It made it very easy to fit into a tiny envelope. If I had 16" to work with I could can done everything very easily indeed.

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1600453)
Is there anything locking the shooter in position when it is in the firing position? It seems at least plausible that the ball being forced into the shooter could cause the shooter to give a little bit while firing, and generally you want all the rigidity you can get with such a system for consistency reasons.

I like the intake and shooter articulating together as it probably adds a lot of consistency to the ball loading.

Just curious - how are you avoiding this mechanism tangling with the battery cable when it folds up?

The shooter can brace against the bumper while shooting. The bumpers are the biggest things on the 'bot, so I did not include them in the very nice render.

Battery cable- whats that? I see no cables...
Realistically though, the battery wires can easily just go down the sides of the battery without hitting anything or risking a nasty break.

edesirim 10-08-2016 14:37

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According to the rules, the ball has a diameter of 10". I just wanted to know if the intake folds up or something and the robot chassis itself? Just a clarifying question. :D

asid61 10-08-2016 14:58

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Originally Posted by edesirim (Post 1600489)
According to the rules, the ball has a diameter of 10". I just wanted to know if the intake folds up or something and the robot chassis itself? Just a clarifying question. :D

The intake folds up so that the robot can be 7.5" tall. I couldn't find a good way to keep it short and have a good intake while the ball is in the bot.

ThaddeusMaximus 10-08-2016 15:06

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Love the battery packaging.

Jeremy Germita 10-08-2016 15:07

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I don't see any clearance for a tube fitting on your hood cylinders(picture). As it stands, you'll only be able to supply air to the retract side of the cylinder. It looks like you might have enough room to just space your shooter bearing plates a little more to clear a fitting, but I haven't looked at the CAD closely enough to see if this is possible.

Other than that, I really like the usage of the four-bar. I love seeing neat linkages on robots.

asid61 10-08-2016 15:35

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Originally Posted by ThaddeusMaximus (Post 1600500)
Love the battery packaging.

Thank you, I was very pleased with it too. :P

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Germita (Post 1600501)
I don't see any clearance for a tube fitting on your hood cylinders(picture). As it stands, you'll only be able to supply air to the retract side of the cylinder. It looks like you might have enough room to just space your shooter bearing plates a little more to clear a fitting, but I haven't looked at the CAD closely enough to see if this is possible.

Other than that, I really like the usage of the four-bar. I love seeing neat linkages on robots.

Nooooo does this mean I have to re-render!?
I think I can push the mounting plates out by another 3/8" at least, or add a hole to allow the fitting in.
Thank you!

Greg Woelki 10-08-2016 16:48

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Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1600503)
Nooooo does this mean I have to re-render!?
I think I can push the mounting plates out by another 3/8" at least, or add a hole to allow the fitting in.

A simpler option might be to use the 90 degree rotated ports version of the cylinder (Bimba offers this for their rear pivot cylinders, I'd imagine other manufacturers do as well).

asid61 10-08-2016 17:25

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Originally Posted by Greg Woelki (Post 1600514)
A simpler option might be to use the 90 degree rotated ports version of the cylinder (Bimba offers this for their rear pivot cylinders, I'd imagine other manufacturers do as well).

Given that it's already a custom 3.6" stroke cylinder, this is a great option actually.

Chris is me 10-08-2016 17:32

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Originally Posted by asid61 (Post 1600517)
Given that it's already a custom 3.6" stroke cylinder, this is a great option actually.

Is it really not possible to go to a standard size here? It can't be that hard to add .1" to the length of your ball joint or something.

asid61 10-08-2016 17:38

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1600519)
Is it really not possible to go to a standard size here? It can't be that hard to add .1" to the length of your ball joint or something.

Because of the tiny packaging and cramped spacers, especially near the shooter/hood, I couldn't make it 3.5" or 4". 3.75" is a custom size anyway, or I would have to use metric. I did try to use a standard size, but the layouts just didn't work out.

frcguy 10-08-2016 21:44

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How well would those little read Mecanum wheels on the side of the intake work for directing balls closer to the intake? Do they make a noticeable improvement for ball collection?


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