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mtaman02 05-11-2002 20:37

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Originally posted by team 713
N.Y.C.

'nuff said


FL 1st choice
TX 2nd choice
NYC 3rd choice

FotoPlasma 05-11-2002 20:42

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Originally posted by Johca_Gaorl
I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on why they don't wanna go to vegas (if that's the opinion they hold)
Las Vegas is the festering hol^Hme of greed, decadence, and immorality in the United States. As I've said at least a few times before, I would much rather support Eisner than any of Las Vegas.

Shana 06-11-2002 18:09

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Originally posted by Johca_Gaorl
I'd like to hear everyone's opinion on why they don't wanna go to vegas (if that's the opinion they hold)
Las Vegas is a dump in the middle of the ugliest desert I've ever seen. It has nothing to do there for minors that won't make them spend more than they want to. The only plus side are all of the buffets but really how many people eat during Nationals or even regionals for that matter. To sum it all up even though Vegas would make it easier/cheaper for my team and a lot of West coast teams to get there its not in the best interest of FIRST. When one mentions Disney World people think pure and good, when people hear Las Vegas though they think of alcohol, gambling and evil for some, not really the image FIRST wants.

MattK 06-11-2002 21:44

HOOKSETT NH BABY! H-TOWN!

You guys can crash @ my house, BYOB (Bring Your Own Bot)

Joe Matt 06-11-2002 22:20

Frankly, it's MY opinion, and I'm not FIRST.

Second, I still stick with Diseny. It's cheeper in the long run and has the most options for the money. Entertainment is the real plus and the environment and the name alone is worth a lot to FIRST.

Joe Matt 06-11-2002 22:23

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Originally posted by FotoPlasma


Las Vegas is the festering hol^Hme of greed, decadence, and immorality in the United States. As I've said at least a few times before, I would much rather support Eisner than any of Las Vegas.

Amen Foto! I hate him too! :D

Kevin Sevcik 07-11-2002 11:03

cheaper for who? FIRST? The teams?

Remember, last year a team had to pay extra to go to the wrap party if they didn't buy one of the outrageously overpriced Disney packages. My team stayed off Disney property, and we had rooms witha kitchen, living room, and 2 bedrooms. And it was STILL cheaper than a Disney package. Then we went to Medieval Times for our party.

Also, and this one is purely my opinion, but I can't believe that running things at Disney is all that cheap. C'mon. You have to pay for setting up huge tents, laying all that flooring, running generators and A/Cs all day. It almost HAS to be cheaper to run it in a big convention center with a roof already there, and power and A/C built in.

Joe Matt 07-11-2002 11:17

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Originally posted by Kevin Sevcik
cheaper for who? FIRST? The teams?

Remember, last year a team had to pay extra to go to the wrap party if they didn't buy one of the outrageously overpriced Disney packages. My team stayed off Disney property, and we had rooms witha kitchen, living room, and 2 bedrooms. And it was STILL cheaper than a Disney package. Then we went to Medieval Times for our party.

Also, and this one is purely my opinion, but I can't believe that running things at Disney is all that cheap. C'mon. You have to pay for setting up huge tents, laying all that flooring, running generators and A/Cs all day. It almost HAS to be cheaper to run it in a big convention center with a roof already there, and power and A/C built in.

Cheeper for everyone. When you add plane tickets to other places, hotel rooms that might not be available, and other things, you'll get teams being ripped off and loosing money.

D.J. Fluck 07-11-2002 11:30

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Originally posted by JosephM


Cheeper for everyone. When you add plane tickets to other places, hotel rooms that might not be available, and other things, you'll get teams being ripped off and loosing money.


How do you figure that?

Is 78 hotels within 15-20 minutes of central Houston, with rates starting at $39.95 a night not enough for teams???? :confused:

Joe Matt 07-11-2002 11:33

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Originally posted by D.J. Fluck



How do you figure that?

Is 78 hotels within 15-20 minutes of central Houston, with rates starting at $39.95 a night not enough for teams???? :confused:

Enter in other conventions, the suply and demand factor, and quailty (most of the rooms will be too expensive).

And you can read the other post that Huston has NO, and I mean NO flight options there.

Kevin Sevcik 07-11-2002 12:03

I just don't buy the no flight options thing. just out of Intercontinental, you've got American, Continental, Delta, Northwest, Southwest, and United. Not to mention about a dozen others.... and then Air Tran flies into Hobby. And as for hotels. There's tons of hotels. The cheap ones will be about the same size as an All-Star room at Disney, and if you want bigger you can always stay at one of the Studio ones. And do you really think FIRST wouldn't work out packages and transportation with hotels? I'm pretty sure other conventions do that, so there's no reason FIRST can't as well. Honestly... I don't know why people think Disney is such a good deal....

D.J. Fluck 07-11-2002 12:07

Well, if a team wants to pay under $150 a night (37.50 a day per person) There are 60+ Hotels (Wyndham/ Embassy Suites)



Theres 45+ hotels under $120 a night ( Hampton Inn type hotels)

Also, La Quinta and Holiday Inn-like hotels start at 69.95 a night (roughly $17.50 per person!)

A fact about George Bush Intercontinental Airport in Houston:
"IAH provides non-stop service to over 150 cities around the world and is the 13th busiest commercial airport in the U.S."

It may only be a statistic, but there is plenty of evidence to back it up.

Johca_Gaorl 07-11-2002 12:16

Disney is a great place and all, I like it there. But if you think it is a good deal (or any amusment park for that matter) than you are blissfully naive. :rolleyes:

Joe Matt 07-11-2002 13:16

1.) Statistics, yes, but I have seen only a few flights go to Huston in all my travels.

2.) ASTROWORLD? Are you nuts? Sure, first Six Flags, but dear god! Six Flags is a dump! I've been to WoA and that's one to manny for me.

3.) Hotels. SUPPLY AND DEMAND. People want more hotel rooms near the nats, thus they'll up the prices beyond the nice price of $69 per night (All Stars is only $74)

Johca_Gaorl 07-11-2002 13:26

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Originally posted by JosephM
1.) Statistics, yes, but I have seen only a few flights go to Huston in all my travels.
Well, I'm pretty sure Houston is a bigger airport than richmond.


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