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The mechanism has some inherent value in the process - design, manufacture, evaluate, iterate. An idea that is a nonstarter (such as FIRST should crowd source the game design this year), while it may spark some interesting discussion, has significantly less value as an educational tool because there's no feedback loop to see if the discussion is correct. And if it's something that is already proven there's no real point in discussing it. Which category does this discussion fall into? As worded - the former. As Cory stated, FIRST is not going to move the World Exhibition Events past the end date of school years. The Pros and Cons are largely irrelevant for that discussion. However, of value may be a discussion of the impact off season events have on teams. It's effectively the same question (can we move the competition season to include some of the summer vacation?) but it is practical, applicable, and can actually be evaluated. Also - schools don't all end at the same time across the globe, perhaps that would be another avenue of discussion. - Does the current World Exhibition Event fall within your school year? What impact does it have on your attendance? |
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For all those saying it will never happen.
Who ever thought first would make 2 Champs? Bottom line is you never know. And too all those that are saying by having this outside of the school year it will hurt attendance it's worth mentioning that this system allows much more time for teams to fundraise. Think of all the district qualifiers, wait list qualifiers, or late regional qualifiers that have scrambled to get funds and come up short. |
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My point is guys, that there is no reason to be rude and condescending to someone on here for an idea. I wasn't spamming, I wasn't flaming anyone, just posting an idea wanting to hear the community's opinion. |
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I'm... neutral on the idea.
You don't have to dodge AP testing, which is a good thing... except that you lose any ability for the students who are doing AP tests to do robot work for a couple weeks. (I'd bank on that being the case, with testing being so important to academics these days. Shame that education isn't as important to academics. Whether it's the school or the parents clamping down, you'll lose those students.) On the other hand, for anybody who's not doing AP (and is doing CMP), you add another several weeks to an already long season. 14 weeks from Kickoff to the Week 7 events isn't exactly short! There's ways to mitigate that, admittedly, but that's still something to factor in. I can see the pro of having more time to plan travel; that's always a plus. (And you can do fundraising at that time, too, even better.) But then you get to the whole "end of school year" if you run it too late. Now, out here, school year ends in the early June timeframe, give or take a couple weeks (depending on start date); if you snuck CMP in early in May you've got a shot but anything later is going to be trouble. For the college mentors, they might be getting out earlier still, so that introduces some interesting complications. Could it be done? Sure. Not for another 5 years, though. Venue contracts are signed, don't want to undo that. Is it a good idea? Eh, maybe they'll come up with something totally different by then, like having Kickoff in December. |
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What many people forget is if you feel a topic is not worth your time or impossible you do not have to respond. Not responding is better then being rude. A few years ago at kickoff we had a presentation about how NASA was designing a 7 ton mars exploration lander. An intern whose ideas were beneath them showed a concept that led to the Mars rover. People learn from other's ideas. Now that I have that off my chest. I feel that all the serous ideas that are con are correct except that FIRST would never do it. If FIRST thought that they could land a few big sponsors then I feel it could happen.
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Who needs presents? We have Kickoff! If only I had family in New Hampshire... |
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As for FRC state champs, don't you think that they'd just swap the dates to early May or late April instead to fill the void? As for post-school championships, there are many national sports championships held in June and July. But there may be a problem with schools covering team expenses. On the other hand, how many FRC programs are formally embedded into schools the same way that sports teams are? In my experience, they run like clubs, and many musical and performing arts clubs have summer tours. |
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High school graduation in St. Tammany schools in 2017 is May 3 through May 9th. The seinior's last day is somewhat before that. If CMP were moved back even one more week from St. Louis, we would probably lose all our seniors.
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