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bobbysq 08-31-2016 02:44 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
#1 - 525

#2-11 - don't know much about ranking, just that 525 is the best

Citrus Dad 08-31-2016 04:27 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rachel Lim (Post 1602928)
Here's more data! (since you can never have too much data)

Instead of just looking at OPR rank, I graphed it according to standard deviations above above the mean. 254 once again dominates, with several records: the only team with an average above 4, 1 of 4 teams to break 4 in a single year, 1 of 2 teams to break 4 in both categories (max/avg OPR), and the only team to break 5 (and even 6 in avg OPR).

Each category includes the 10 teams with the highest average (not highest rank as previously used). For the average, I used only CA teams, and the relevant stats (i.e. for max OPR, the average was the average of all max OPRs)

I think this is somewhat more representative than just rank (since it adjusts for how far above average you are), but it does make the graphs messier:



The top team per year in CA (standard deviations above average, max OPR, (CA data set only) (all teams)):
2012: 1717 (4.51) (4.77)
2013: 1538 (3.97) (4.71)
2014: 254 (4.01) (3.52)
2015: 254 (5.86) (6.57)
2016: 971 (4.06) (4.15)

Top teams in the world (data set now includes all teams):
2012: 2056 (5.20)
2013: 987 (4.93)
2014: 1114 (4.21)
2015: 254 (6.57)
2016: 148 (4.35)

Teams for 2008 to 2011 are 1114, 71, 67, and 111, which gives Ontario a third of the top spots in the past 9 years.

Nice job, but apparently 1678 didn't play enough in 2016 to generate an average OPR (although we did have a maximum)...

Rachel Lim 08-31-2016 05:58 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Citrus Dad (Post 1603933)
Nice job, but apparently 1678 didn't play enough in 2016 to generate an average OPR (although we did have a maximum)...

Yeah, 3 regionals, a division, and Einstein isn't enough, stop slacking off! :P

Ugh, the mistakes I make by doing this by hand...

I think I copied an old graph and somehow swapped 1678 with 1717, losing your 2016 data in the process. Anyway, here's a fixed graph. Hopefully I didn't managed to mess something else up.


TAlholm 08-31-2016 07:43 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Could someone do an in depth list for CT? It's hard to remember how many good teams there are. I know OPR is OPR, but in no way does it do CT or NE in fact any justice.

Golfer4646 08-31-2016 09:15 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1602222)
Who are the top 5 teams in your state/region:
  • this year by OPR?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbysq (Post 1603929)
#1 - 525

#2-11 - don't know much about ranking, just that 525 is the best

The top 5 teams from Iowa during the Stronghold season, as ordered by maximum OPR at a single regional or at Champs:

#1 - 525 (Swartdogs) with a 53.85 OPR at the Iowa Regional.
#2 - 5576 (Team Terminator) with a 48.28 OPR at the Minnesota North Star Regional.
#3 - 967 (Iron Lions) with a 37.98 OPR at the Minnesota North Star Regional.
#4 - 4646 (Team ASAP) with a 36.57 OPR at the Central Illinois Regional.
#5 - 167 (Children of the Corn) with a 36.53 OPR at the Minnesota North Star Regional.

Honorable Mention: 3928 (Team Neutrino) with a 34.95 OPR at the Minnesota North Star Regional.


Edit: Average OPR during 2016 season:
#1 - 525 with an average OPR of 49.71 during the 2016 season.
#2 - 5576 with an average OPR of 39.55 during the 2016 season.
#3 - 4646 with an average OPR of 34.86 during the 2016 season.
#4 - 3928 with an average OPR of 32.30 during the 2016 season.
#5 - 167 with an average OPR of 31.32 during the 2016 season.

bstew 08-31-2016 10:41 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
I was going to do a bunch of rankings based on different statistics for Iowa, but Golfer4646 beat me to OPR. :)

Some statistics I used to rank 2016 robot performance:

Highest Rank During Season (2016)
1. 525 (2)
2. 4646 (6)
3. 5576 (10)
4. 167 (12)
5. 967 (14)

Highest Pick # (2016)
1. 525 (2)
2. 5576 (4)
3. 3928 (8)
4. 4646 (9)
5. 967 (10)

Maximum OPR (2016) (I know this has already been posted, but for the sake of having all Iowa rankings in one post, I will repeat it)
1. 525 (53.85)
2. 5576 (48.28)
3. 967 (37.98)
4. 4646 (36.57)
5. 167 (36.53)

Maximum CCWM (2016)
1. 525 (33.70)
2. 5576 (21.92)
3. 3928 (12.69)
4. 4646 (10.83)
5. 167 (10.33)

I also looked at over the past 5 years how many awards teams had won.

Awards (past 5 years)
1. 525 (16)
2/3. 3928/4646 (6)
4. 967 (5)
5/6. 5576/5837 (3)

I used TBA and 2834's Scouting database for all stats. Thanks!

A large portion of this was all found and copied by hand. If there are any errors in it, feel free to correct me.

tldr: 525 is pretty undisputedly the best in Iowa.

wajirock 08-31-2016 10:48 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bstew (Post 1604000)

tldr: 525 is pretty undisputedly the best in Iowa.

Probably the best in the entire Upper-Midwest.

Mastonevich 09-01-2016 10:17 AM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wajirock (Post 1604001)
Probably the best in the entire Upper-Midwest.

The upper midwest can be defined as a pretty big area. That is a discussion in itself.

Richard Wallace 09-01-2016 10:55 AM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by wajirock (Post 1604001)
Probably the best in the entire Upper-Midwest.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mastonevich (Post 1604048)
The upper midwest can be defined as a pretty big area. That is a discussion in itself.

It sure is that!

My view is that eastern-time states don't qualify, letting out Ohio, Michigan, and (mostly) Indiana. North and South Dakota are Great Plains states, like Nebraska and Kansas, along with big portions of Oklahoma and Texas. Where you put Missouri depends on which major city you see it from -- KC or STL.

That leaves Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota in the Upper Midwest.

I'll go with 525 as one of that region's top teams, maybe the best overall looking at a long time period.

bobbysq 09-01-2016 11:58 AM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1604051)
That leaves Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, and Minnesota in the Upper Midwest.

Ok, then IL has...

https://www.thebluealliance.com/team/2481/2016

Oh.

Richard Wallace 09-01-2016 12:54 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbysq (Post 1604061)

Yeah, how on earth did our alliance make it out of the quarters at IRI? :confused:

2481 vs. 525 has to go to the two time world champs, looking at the last five years. Considering a longer time frame and overall program impact, I still give the edge to 525.

TheBoulderite 09-01-2016 01:21 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1604068)
2481 vs. 525 has to go to the two time world champs, looking at the last five years.

2481 has gone to Einsteins twice and won once.

IndySam 09-01-2016 01:24 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
2481 has been one of my favorite teams for years. I would find it hard not to rank them #1.

TheBoulderite 09-01-2016 04:56 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Here's my take on Colorado:

OPR (2016):
1. 1619 (52.05)
2. 4388 (39.14)
3. 2996 (36.25)
4. 4499 (35.73)
5. 2240 (34.54)

Results (2016):
1. 1619 (Arizona North Regional Quarterfinalist, Colorado Regional Winner, Carson Semifinalist)
2. 4499 (Arizona North Regional Quarterfinalist, Colorado Regional Finalist, 15th seed on Galileo)
3. 4550 (Colorado Regional Winner, 45th seed on Newton)
4. 1339 (Colorado Regional Finalist, 30th seed on Galileo)
5. 1410 (Arizona North Regional Semifinalist, Colorado Regional Semifinalist)

OPR (2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016):
1. 1619 (1.22, 30.01, 106.63, 88.75, 52.05)
2. 2996 (22.70, 61.51, 50.28, 40.42, 36.25)
3. 1410 (11.73, 50.78, 28.20, 24.84, 28.42)
4. 662 (8.48, 11.91, 42.82, 45.28, 31.97)
5. 4499 (N/A, 21.34, 23.11, 48.16, 35.73)

Results (2012-2016):
1. 1619 (3 Quarterfinalists, 2 Semifinalists, 3 Winners, 2 CMP Semifinalists)
2. 2996 (3 Quarterfinalists, 2 Semifinalists, 2 Winners, 1 CMP Semifinalist)
3. 4499 (6 Quarterfinalists, 2 Finalists, 1 CMP Quarterfinalist)
4. 4550 (3 Quarterfinalists, 1 Semifinalists, 1 Winner)
5. 1410 (3 Quarterfinalists, 3 Semifinalists, 2 Finalists)

Culture:
1. 2996 (1 Rookie All Star, 2 Engineering Inspiration, 3 Chairman's)
2. 4499 (2 Rookie All Star, 2 Engineering Inspiration, 2 Chairman's)
3. 159 (1 Engineering Inspiration, 4 Chairman's)
4. 1619 (1 Engineering Inspiration, 1 Chairman's)
5. 4944 (2 Rookie All Star)

This is my take. I'd love to see another Coloradan's view!

Citrus Dad 09-02-2016 06:31 PM

Re: Best in your State/Region
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rachel Lim (Post 1603954)
Yeah, 3 regionals, a division, and Einstein isn't enough, stop slacking off! :P

Ugh, the mistakes I make by doing this by hand...

I think I copied an old graph and somehow swapped 1678 with 1717, losing your 2016 data in the process. Anyway, here's a fixed graph. Hopefully I didn't managed to mess something else up.


All I can say is even when we improve, we still can't close the gap on 254!! And it was kind of nice being able to win those events without having to actually play!:D


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