CBS 60 Minutes II Documentary on Dean Kamen & FIRST
 

To all teams
On Wednesday November 13th at 8pm EST, 60 Minutes II will do half of its show on another documentary on Dean Kamen. It will feature FIRST, the Segway, and other interesting facts.
There will be some footage from NYC and the Nationals. Not much I'm told, but hey it’s something.

Thanks for the info, have my Tivo already set!

I wish I had a Tivo so I could remember to watch it...
:(

Can you upload your recording for the rest of us forgetful sorts plz?


Wetzel
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I am a forgetful sort.

Got noplace to host it

cool should be interesting ill email my team about it.

Thanks for letting us know. I scheduled it on my TIVO - LOVE THAT!

We can put it on our web, and let this list know where to view it.

If you can send it to me, I can get it hosted...

Here is the official CBS 60 Minutes II Website with more info

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/1999/...ain48284.shtml

Thanks for the info. I'm looking forward to this one. Gotta get my dad to lay the remote down so that I can use it for a change.

I'll tape it and put it on CD if you want. I also have the finaly of Push if you want to see it. :p

To make it easy on all you people just read this part of the CBS webpage, but it explains what his invention is. Just making this easy on you all.:p


"Dean Kamen, the man who said his human transporter invention would change people’s lives, has a new invention that, he says, could change the world. The quirky inventor demonstrates for Rather how his latest device creates electricity without pollution and turns contaminated liquid into distilled drinking water. "

Dude we already worked this out over PM I am recording it on my PC and posting it right away.

just some FYI, the movie will be in DIVX format so that the size of the file will be smaller.


A link will be posted after the show

I will also record it.

Their UNVALING THE STERLING SEGWAY!!! :D

Agreed, or something with the sterling. I refraimed from posting this for sooooo long, but I was talking to someone VERY VERY close to Dean about his projects in general and they where like yeah the segway runs on the sterling and then they kinda stoped and turned a little red and started to choke a little on his/her words as he/she changed the subject subject.

team 121 should be highlighted check out the pic of them taping us http://www.rhodewarrior.org/2002/pic...e/dsc00094.jpg

I'm tuned in. I like the line "you'll see it for the first time" in reference to robotics (I think). Heh. Yeah...that or about twice a week :)

I think they ment the machine they where drinking out of

mmmmmm Segway juice.....

agghh... it's not the first segment!

Ohh. I was close. Maybe it's the FIRST water :)

I'm going to guess it's some sort of engine that takes it's fuel (whatever it might be) and after it "burns" it, the left over product is pure drinking water....

While i think this, i thought someone else already created this. Who knows, maybe deans version is better.

Maybe its a fuel cell!!!! oh wait, they already have those :)

remember the whole speech dean gave about how water purification was innefecient in florida.... i'm guessing he found a solution to this :) just one comerical break away from watchin it.... this is better than christmas!!

Tom

Well of course Dean's is better!

I hope you all noticed the BAE SYSTEMS logos in the opening of the show just now!

BAE SYSTEMS...I'm going to their regional. *ahem* Yeah. Hmm..you must love the way, that right before every commercial, they say "And when we come back, Dean's latest invention!"..or something to that effect. I'M ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT!

There was a bunch of BAE logos when they were talking about England and the fighter planes.

P.S Hey Orge you elbowed the camera man, then they showed you being picked up by everybody on your team hehe it was pretty cool.

The sterling engine water purifyer was the thing we had never seen before? Hmm. I recall it on another tv show.

And yet again, no coverage for Chuck :rolleyes:

what was the big invention? i turned it on when dean was talking about the stirling engine...

Portable!!
 

Sweet....Not only is it a working sterling engine..it's portable!!.

Now i wonder if we can expect to see demos of this portable engine at Nats, maybe instead of drinking fountains they have sterling engines giving us water!

:D

That stirling engine is pretty sweet. I wouldnt mind that as a drinking fountain :) or a battery charger :D

He straight-out said that the sterling was going into the segway, well not straight out but he is like "or you could use it to charge a segway".



I am getting the file online now

Great 60mins, i just saw it...i saw alot of Ogre, lol...

great to see FIRST on TV spreading the message

yeah- it was awesome...

don't you think it was slightly ironic that they showed the national champions (71) on the field- when their arms didn't deploy and they were ineffective?

THAT WAS MEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
CROWD SURFING!!!!!!!! YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and those were some good shots of the finals.

I know someone who was on TV!!! (well, in a wierd internet way...)

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/...in529239.shtml

THEY LOVE US!

Great
 

Sweet.:cool: Sweet.

That was the best interview so far. I bow to Kamen for his way to purafiy water and to mass develope the segway. WIsh i could get my hands on it. Oh well. Then the stirling engine was cool and I believe that the world is about to change. Also did everyone see the footage of team 25, yeah!!! Bringing Jersey into the picture.:cool: :cool: :cool: Fianlly hoping that the finals are in florida this year. WE will know tommarow.

ok I am currently sharing the file on Kazaa

Search for: Dean60m


my user name is: Idofirst

If someone can host the file that would be great

we were on tv! yay!!!
 

take that down its against board rules

holy buckets!
 

holy buckets, i was on national television!

but of course, i had glue in my hair and was jumping up and down. figures...

uh, technicly no, let Brandon decide.

what the rules say
 

True, Kaaza is a file-sharing program, but he was using it in a legal and legitimate way, not as a means to "steal software or any other copyrighted material."

[edit] hmmm ... I guess the show is copyrighted? But if it is fine to post it on a website, it is no less fine to put it on Kaaza. [/edit]

I agree, let Brandon decide.

Stephen

rrrr im mad. they didn't show anything of the many hours of footage they had of team 121. i even gave a big speech to them on strategy for a match and how no robot is good without good strategy. plus they put microphones on the drive team [edit]for the entire day of finals at nats[/edit]. the only shot of me is the back of my head before we go out for a match.

[edit]they also showed the last match of divisional finals where we lose. then they show the other alliance celebrating.[/edit]

Actually, courts found that file-sharing of television programs is beyond fair use policy. It's illegal.

They showed alot of teams. You did get the first shot of a robot though.

Yah well I know a lot of people on TV. I was on that National Geographic thing and a lot of RAGE was on the 60 minutes thing. This is so coool:D

When they showed Dean in the pits, did you see Sparky 3.0's far left goal grabber and ME!?!?! :D

I think they probably took a lot of footage of FIRST, and then had to condense it down to a few minutes of airtime. They had to take much more than needed, because they couldn't be sure what would be good material, and what would be bad.

Something similair happened to our team for an A&E special. We had people interviewed, and our pits filmed, and the only thing that was shown was footage of us deflating one of the big balls in a practice match (2001 game). :rolleyes:

I actually kinda liked that though :)

Stephen

Check your PM's, Team 810's uber-happy nerd-squad will host ;D

(Thanks for recording it, I caught the end just now.)

I'm just as frustrated as Rick. In NYC and the Nationals they shot a lot of footage of us. Which I estimated was a little over an hour. This included interviews, matches, and couple of other things. Where they going to use all of it, of course not, but we least expected that some of it would be used. We gave them a lot of time talking to them and all. They were in contact with one of adult advisors asking for stuff, they knew they weren't going to use.

Don't get me wrong, the segment is good, but I feel really cheeped out by CBS, by not telling us that all the time we spent wouldn't be on there.

Oh course time is limited, and you can't have everything you shoot.

However as a message about FIRST, I thought it was really good.

A file takes about 10min to circulate over Kazaa, so it should be ready in about 5min,


Still looking for people to host.....

Aim: Phatlinux14

I didn't like how they described the game - "The challenge this year was to load as many balls as possible into a goal" or something to that effect. They completely missed the "Zone Zeal" part.

That sterling engine is incredible... I want to make one!

Or take one apart. S'all good.

file is available...

ftp://chiefdelphi:chiefdelphi@tas246...i.net/dean.WMV

i just finished digitizing.... right click it and hit "save target as".... or just click it and it should stream.

Tom

PS... its 44 megs.... so watch out dialup users....

pps: someone wanna mirror this - i have 15 users on and its only a few minutes after i posted.... not that i mind.. just in case my comp crashes :)

Re: what the rules say
 

Yeah, I agree too----doh.

At the end of those broadcasts, it usually says something to the effect of 'no part may be re-broadcast, redistributed, etc.. with out expressed written permission yada yada'.

I'm gonna say its not right -- but its Dean, and FIRST -- so I'll go edit these links / posts out in 24 hours. :)

We'll just pretend I didn't see it until tomorrow night. :)

Hmm..wonder how long till this is on /.

Download here...
 

I have the file, but have taken down my link, and shut off my FTP now that the initial rush is over.

If you would like the file please email me, or contact me through AIM.

Thanks,

I saw red hawaiian shirts- team 25 is muy happy!!!

Re: Re: what the rules say
 

Yeah really. You really crack me up sometimes Brandon.

The file I have should be ready soon, re-enocding it now (WAS IN VCD)

Another mirror (Situated in New York)


Dean Kamen and FIRST documentary on 60-Minutes

Heh. I'd have it on my FTP but I really don't feel like wasting that much bandwidth :) (Wasting in the _best_ kind of way :P) If you can't find it any more or just want it really slowly...email, PM, or IM me.

Another Mirror
 

If any of the previous hosts don't work, you guys can get it at my ftp (just I'm hosting it from my cable modem, so I'm capped to a total maximum upload of 50kb/s)

ip: 24.186.144.31
port: 21
username: FTPuser
pw: easy

if you can't connect, try turning PSAV or Passive FTP mode explicitly on or explicitly off - I have a shiezer router. Look in your FTP's help on how to do that (if you HAVE to use ie, go to Tools > Internet Options > Advanced > bottom of the Browsing category).

I have Tom's 40 meg WMA and Matt is uploading his 300-some meg mpg (should be done in about 3 hours).

About the entire legality thing, my point of view is that CBS is one of the major networks, so if you have TV, you probably get CBS. CBS may even be broadcast by antenna in some cities, so it would be completely free in those cases. The program itself isn't produced by some 3rd party (i.e. hollywood), it's produced by CBS. And no measures have been taken to hide that it's by CBS or hide that it's from 60 minutes. It's being used almost like a bibliography. Because of this, I feel strongly that by hosting a mirror, I'm doing nothing illegal - it's meant to be a service to those who happened to miss the clip. If other powers feel otherwise, then censor this message.

Ooh. A 300 meg MPG? Would anyone like to up that to me? :) Message me somehow. I can allow HTTP/FTP uploads/downloads.

(WMV is a freaking pain in linux *sigh*)

Michigan Mirror
 

Re: Re: Re: what the rules say
 

My apologies for being off-topic, but http://www.pubarso.com/ is filled with hilarious comments. Its a good way to cool down from an average school day. Gotta keep that updated Brandon.

I love where the name "Pubarso" came from :D

(I always seem to help lead things incredibly off topic)

Soo...about that tv show...erm

Hey, this is my first attempt at using the Record function as more than TIVO on my computer.

I've got the file, it's in MPG 2 file standard, and it's 3.6 gigs. (Yes, gigs)

How'd you get it down to 44 without the quality going to crap?

I tried Real video, but my video program only lets me export at 120x80. (Ususally i do 320x2someting at work)

I'm cranking it out in WMV now (Since it's already posted, i'm not bothering to share mine I'll see how that comes out for experimentation purposes.

Just so you know, i edited out all the commericals and left the opening peice in.

:-)

I was going to try DIVX, but that means I gotta find the installer again.. *sigh*

Hmm... Just figured it out. I've got the freebie version of Ulead Video Studio 5.0

it's slightly..... limited. more features, upgrade to pro, or goto the new version 6.0.

Grrr..

Oh well, i guess it's time to take advantage of Adobe's Software at home liscense. (If you have a liscense to use something at work, you can take it home and use it. Seriously, it's on there web site somewhere, one of htere salesman told me) Premeire is still the best.

I just used the movie maker thats built into windows XP - nothing fancy - to get it smaller i cut down the resolution to 320x240 - and i cut down the audio quality - it comes out to be about 384 kbps.

Tom

Hey Joseph!

Your mailbox is full and you can't receive CDF message mail. Since you've posted here I know you're monitoring this thread.

Please clear out your mailbox (and send me a PM when you have), because I need to speak to you privately.

(Sorry for the intrusion, gang...)

Thanks!

- Keith

If you want to use Divx... just get the codec at www.divx.com.

Then visit the Divx software page to download one of the encoding applications.
http://www.divx.com/software/browse.php?cid=14

You'll need either FlaskMPEG or XMPEG to encode it.

It's clear dude. Sorry, seems like someone on here Spamed it (*cough*DanteSparta*cough*), but now it's clear.

Dean's Team Number
 

Did anyone else notice Dean's team number in the baseball game? Well if you didn't it was e^(i*pi). For those of you who don't know that equals -1. Leave it to Dean to have that as a team number.

Re: Dean's Team Number
 

-1 huh?? Maybe 1 would be more appropriate. Does this have some hidden meaning. Maybe Dean thinks that FIRST (1) is going to the negative side or something.

Just a thought, I'm probably just reading into it too much. :eek:

yea you are just reading into it too much. If you don't believe that e^(i*pi) is -1 then watch the Simpsons Halloween Special where Homer walks into the wall behind the book shelf to a 3rd dimension. In there it also states that it is -1. We all know Simpsons can't be wrong.

Okay, people, pet peeve time again:

It's a STIRLING engine. . . named after its inventor, Robert Stirling. Stirling. Sterling is a type of silver or fork and spoon or something valueless. Stirling is someone's last name. Please, at least give this guy the respect he deserves by spelling his last name correctly.

My team was filmed considerably during the NYC Regional as well. I didn't see us in any footage whatsoever. Whatever. There are more important things in life than being in television. Taking 60 minutes of footage is, by no means, extensive. They rarely will post long clips of anyone who's not well known.

Now, because it wouldn't be right if I didn't post at least one controversial topic -

Am I the only person that feels that, sometimes, Dean sounds very arrogant about certain things? I don't feel like listing particular examples, but sometimes, I'm a bit shocked by his tone. It's very condescending, seemingly.

Now, I've met Dean before at a few different instances, and I've never gotten that impression in person. . . and I've managed to talk with him at reasonably length, too. Maybe it's the direction of the interviews or something.

Leave it to M. Krass to make things a bit more colorful.

I have met Dean as well.
My opinion is that it's not arrogance, but nerves. Leave him alone eh?

Finaly got the uncompressed VCD version of it on my FTP server. If someone could mirror it, that would be great.


ftp://66.31.80.243/

or directly to that folder ftp://66.31.80.243/Kamen/

P.s. The compressed version should be up later tonight

Seeing my team on something besides the local news was weird. It was us... but in higher resolution. We're reaching new levels.

And they showed the part where we broke the Beast. Ahh, that brought back memories.

Oh, and I got a chortle out of seeing Ogre hit the camera man. :D

Oh, certainly. I have a lot of respect for what he's managed to do, and I've had nothing but really pleasant, interesting conversations with him.

I don't mean to imply that he is genuinely arrogant. Maybe it is more of a function of the presentation than anything else? But, he seems to be someone who doesn't tolerate a lot of deviance or beating around the bush when it comes to discussing things that are important to him. That's fair, of course, but maybe he could handle keeping things 'on topic' more diplomatically?

...Don't you love incomplete thoughts?

I think it's attatude over TV and the media, how they treated him with Ginger and such. It's not his nature to be arrogant. I think he just hates the media and TV.

WEll he was standing close, and we had just won. What else am i gonna do other than jump around.
The funny thing is that i didn't remember doing it until i saw the film of it.

PEOPLE OF THE PRESS, THEY ARE SOCCER BALLS !!!!!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

Why does everyone get the object wrong when they report the game and it's contents???? They said we picked up Volleyballs!

Can we please have a darn basketball or a football next year for the game piece or better yet, a more recognizable object, like maybe a cube or a pyramid?!?!?!?!?!?!

Re: Re: Dean's Team Number
 

Without making dig up my Math books from 3 or 4 years ago, I believe -1 is an imaginary number in some mathmatics. I believe it's discrete math, or calculus III. It's been awhile. I think I'm thinking of the square root of -1, now that i"ve been thinking about it for a minute or so.

yes the square root of -1 is imaginary. if you look in e^(i*pi) you will notice it includes i which is equal to the square root of -1.

I woudn't say that he's conscending or arrogant...

I would rather say he's focused and belevolent. If you look at the answers he gave as Mr Rather was questioning him they were rather brilliant even though they were not thouroughly contemplated. These are straight-out questions, I doubt 60 minutes would tell what they are gonna ask him or give him second-chance responses. It's not journalistic.

I'd say he's a better speaker than most individuals today, especially better than our own monkey president.

Albeit his tactlessness at some topics, he gets the point accross and only the point unlike some individuals these days. In a world where you are overwhelmed with so much useless information, it's nice to get the point for a change.

DEAN FOR PRESIDENT!!!

Anyone want to Photoshop bumperstickers?

NO HE IS REPUBLICAN!!!!!! Although he seems more Green Party to me...

Blink! Blink! The limaginary ightbulb above my head turns on.

Here's a guy that's basically honest, from all acounts actually respects women, super smart/intelligent, and doesen't beat around the bush, focused, and (according to Jnadke) benevolent.

Oh my gosh! It's the perfect man!

Okay, That's silly. but, one must admit, he is indeed an example of a rare breed or variety of human being. Does anyone know anyone else they've met that is even remotely like Dean? I have met only two that come close to that unique brand of opinionated yet benevolent idealism.

Even if he's Republican, he's still Dean and has more morals and hear than most Dems do.

I'll vote for hime (since I can in Sept of 2004).

DEAN FOR 2004!

Should we start a thread for this????

lets :D

Vice President: Woodie Flowers

So does this mean that Dean and Woodie will take over the spot of the most popular write in candidate, Mr. Potato Head???

Get Dean's tape here....
 

Quote:
"Tapes of the CBS 60 Minutes II can be ordered by dialing 800-848-3256 - for a transcript dial 800-777-TEXT. You can also view this info on the CBS.website. Go to CBS.com and from the drop-down menu choose 60 minutes II. It will load a page with the top story on Dean entitled "The Great Inventor." On the right hand side of the page there are links, the last of which is for tapes and transcripts.
Cheers,
Deborah L. Rose
Operations Coordinator
FIRST "

:)

Re: Get Dean's tape here....
 

Buy tapes???

We are a technologically informed breed of humans, we don't need no stinking tapes!!!

You know what I mean people!!! :D

Re: Re: Get Dean's tape here....
 

HERE HERE!! SECONDE THAT ELGIN....
*while also bringing up the i DO need a cable modem:( :( ....:rolleyes:

HEY!, AREN'T VIDEO TAPES OBSOLETE BY NOW??