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frcguy 28-08-2016 22:14

Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1603537)
What about a subforum for posts from users with under 5 posts which can only be posted in once a post is approved by any member with 50+ posts.


What about that but for every forum?

Edit: I mean members with a certain post count (+100?) review other users first posts.

Sperkowsky 28-08-2016 22:36

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by frcguy (Post 1603538)
What about that but for every forum?

It would have to approved by a mod.

logank013 29-08-2016 07:58

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1603537)
What about a subforum for posts from users with under 5 posts which can only be posted in once a post is approved by any member with 50+ posts.

This is a great idea. Pretty much every newer user (50+ posts as you said) can tell if it is spam or not. Plus it will allow me and many others like me who are on all the time to do a "mod-like" task when no mods are on.

euhlmann 29-08-2016 13:05

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Currently a lot of the spam seems to link to genglobal.org

As a temporary fix, could a ban on genglobal.org links be implemented? I don't think anyone legitimately needs to link there.

JustinCAD 29-08-2016 14:17

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by euhlmann (Post 1603634)
Currently a lot of the spam seems to link to genglobal.org

As a temporary fix, could a ban on genglobal.org links be implemented? I don't think anyone legitimately needs to link there.

Most of these links do lead to genglobal.org, but not all. Obviously as you stated, it would be a temporary fix, due to the fact that it would only filter those links.

It is possible. I don't know if CD has it, but vBulletin has a plugin that blocks links stemming from one link.

I like this idea, and until a long term fix can be found, this would work.

Hitchhiker 42 29-08-2016 20:29

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JustinCAD (Post 1603654)
Most of these links do lead to genglobal.org, but not all. Obviously as you stated, it would be a temporary fix, due to the fact that it would only filter those links.

It is possible. I don't know if CD has it, but vBulletin has a plugin that blocks links stemming from one link.

I like this idea, and until a long term fix can be found, this would work.

Oh noes! You actually clicked on the links!?

Seriously though, I like this proposal.

euhlmann 29-08-2016 23:50

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
As a more general / effective temporary fix, CD could have a whitelist for websites that actually will generate links. Eg, FIRST website, TBA, Github, etc would be allowed as links, while other links would simply display URLs without actually being a link.

Example:
link to github (whitelisted, displayed as link)
ht​tp://g​englobal.o​rg/some-spam (not whitelisted, displayed as plain url)

On other forums this type of system is effective at preventing spam from new users (in fairness, other forums have other measures as well), since spammers know people aren't going to copy and paste their spam. I'm not sure how effective it'll be on our resident spammer here, but I think it's worth a try.

Ty Tremblay 30-08-2016 16:07

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Has anyone suggested a captcha on account creation?

bdaroz 30-08-2016 16:55

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay (Post 1603821)
Has anyone suggested a captcha on account creation?

Pretty sure there is one... and they'd get around it anyway.

Gravity 30-08-2016 16:59

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
To take the strain off the mods from patrolling every single post, why not restrict a thread (unviewable) if the OP receives a certain amount of negative rep from it. The thread can then be removed when a moderator sees it is in the restricted section.

EmileH 30-08-2016 19:38

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ty Tremblay (Post 1603821)
Has anyone suggested a captcha on account creation?

There is a captcha on account creation. It is worth noting that it is not a modern captcha service like Google's ReCaptcha, and probably easier to circumvent.

EricH 30-08-2016 20:00

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gravity (Post 1603833)
To take the strain off the mods from patrolling every single post, why not restrict a thread (unviewable) if the OP receives a certain amount of negative rep from it. The thread can then be removed when a moderator sees it is in the restricted section.

But, but... what about our favorite "controversial" threads? This would kill those, too!


Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it would contribute to the perception of non-transparent moderating that seems to have developed.

The other factor is that you'd have to deal with "rep clicks" vs. "rep score". One rep click from someone with a lot of rep points can dish out an awful lot of rep score in a hurry--one reason I'm generally cautious with rep--but the same score can also be picked up from a lot of people with not as many rep points all firing off one rep click apiece.

evanperryg 31-08-2016 10:52

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FrisbeeFunTime (Post 1603147)
In addition to that it would detect if the post has a link of some sort because that seems to be present in all spam posts.

This is a good idea. Maybe posters with less than 10 posts can't use links? Not sure what the limitations of vBulletin are but I know 2338 was able to do things like that with our phBB forum.

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1603501)
Why are you admitting to breaking site rules? Duplicate accounts are not permitted without mod approval.

http://i.imgur.com/2wAz8I4.png

euhlmann 31-08-2016 11:53

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1603850)
But, but... what about our favorite "controversial" threads? This would kill those, too!


Not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but it would contribute to the perception of non-transparent moderating that seems to have developed.

The other factor is that you'd have to deal with "rep clicks" vs. "rep score". One rep click from someone with a lot of rep points can dish out an awful lot of rep score in a hurry--one reason I'm generally cautious with rep--but the same score can also be picked up from a lot of people with not as many rep points all firing off one rep click apiece.

Then instead of using rep, use reports. When a certain number of people report the post as spam, it should be hidden until a mod can take action

EricH 31-08-2016 19:45

Re: Crazy idea to fight spam
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by euhlmann (Post 1603906)
Then instead of using rep, use reports. When a certain number of people report the post as spam, it should be hidden until a mod can take action

As long as "certain number" = 1-2 (and was limited to thread OPs), I think you'd be OK. More than that and I'd expect a moderator revolt.

Bear in mind that every time someone reports a post, the mods for that area get a message. Don't want to be clogging up inboxes now.


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