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Liam Fay 09-03-2016 01:44 PM

Best Robots Not To Qualify For Champs
 
Since I haven't seen a 2016 version of this thread, here it is.

What were the best robots this year not to qualify for champs?

In my experience, I'd put 3255 in this category. In addition to being a team full of great people, their stellar robot was 2nd seeded at both San Diego and Las Vegas, and if my memory doesn't fail me, they had one of the highest (if not the highest) OPRs of any team not to qualify.

hutchMN 09-03-2016 02:26 PM

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2512 had a great robot this year; it was a shame they didn't qualify this year.

frcguy 09-03-2016 05:05 PM

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At SVR I thought 649 and 192 were two deserving teams. 192 unfortunately missed out on a finalist wild card, as they made the finals at a Week 2 regional (Arizona North).

Jeremy Germita 09-03-2016 05:11 PM

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2791. Stellar robot, deadly high goal shooter. Would have loved to see it in person at champs.

Joey1939 09-03-2016 05:17 PM

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4028 Beak Squad had an amazing robot last year that almost didn't qualify for champs. Luckily, 1939 generated a wildcard at Queen City and sent the well deserving team to championship. 4028 even went on to be a semi-finalist on Carson.

jajabinx124 09-03-2016 05:30 PM

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5434 from MN not going to champs was a bummer. They were IMO the best MN team not to make champs.

TheBoulderite 09-03-2016 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Joey1939 (Post 1604605)
4028 Beak Squad had an amazing robot last year that almost didn't qualify for champs. Luckily, 1939 generated a wildcard at Queen City and sent the well deserving team to championship. 4028 even went on to be a semi-finalist on Carson.

Yeah. They were a great team this year, and an excellent pickup for our alliance!

TheBoulderite 09-03-2016 05:46 PM

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For Colorado, 1410 went to the semifinals twice; once at Arizona North and once in Colorado. They just barely missed the finals both times. Had they made the finals in Colorado, they would have gone to the championship.

AdamHeard 09-03-2016 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Germita (Post 1604602)
2791. Stellar robot, deadly high goal shooter. Would have loved to see it in person at champs.

2791 for sure.

Sperkowsky 09-03-2016 05:53 PM

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4481 had a beautifully engineered robot. I think its downfall was just that it was geared way to slow.

Damiaen_Florian 09-03-2016 09:03 PM

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I would also like to put 2791 at the top of this category. We were fortunate enough to be their partner this year at BattleCry, their robot was incredibly consistent and well made. Not to mention that their team as a whole carried themselves with a great deal of professionalism and respect.

niklas674 09-04-2016 12:08 AM

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The big name for me is 3250. Their robot was amazing. I was very impressed and I think they would've done really well at champs.

TheBoulderite 09-04-2016 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by niklas674 (Post 1604707)
The big name for me is 3250. Third robot was amazing. I was very impressed and I think they would've done really well at champs.

+1. We competed with them in Flagstaff, and I was very impressed with them. I was very surprised to hear that they didn't make it to champs.

dmorewood 09-04-2016 11:02 AM

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Honestly a big name that I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet is Wave, 2826. They always build a quality robot and they were the alliance captain at the Minnesota North Star regional where they were finalists.

Whatever 09-04-2016 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jajabinx124 (Post 1604608)
5434 from MN not going to champs was a bummer. They were IMO the best MN team not to make champs.

I am inclined to agree with you.

3276, 3277, 4778 wouldn't have been out of place at champs either.

Kevin Leonard 09-04-2016 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1604618)
4481 had a beautifully engineered robot. I think its downfall was just that it was geared way to slow.

4481's robot was incredibly ambitious and when it was functioning as intended, it was the best high goal shooter at the Tech Valley Regional. Unfortunately, as a result of their ambitious design, they never could consistently produce those results. Their program also very much deserved some sort of culture award for the awesome work they do.

I'll also agree with 2791- best robot from NY not to make Champs for sure. We were so disappointed we lost with them when we did at Finger Lakes.

TheBoulderite 09-05-2016 10:49 AM

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I'll mention 624. As their alliance partners last year in Utah I know that CRyptonite builds quality robots, and they still did this year. They just barely missed out on wildcard slots at Rocket City and Lone Star, but their robot was still in Texas' top tier.

Citrus Dad 09-06-2016 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dmorewood (Post 1604741)
Honestly a big name that I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet is Wave, 2826. They always build a quality robot and they were the alliance captain at the Minnesota North Star regional where they were finalists.

After their 2015 performance, that's a surprise!

Citrus Dad 09-06-2016 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBoulderite (Post 1604709)
+1. We competed with them in Flagstaff, and I was very impressed with them. I was very surprised to hear that they didn't make it to champs.

Ditto. They almost made it at Sac. They really improved in their second Regional. They're a strong argument for Districts in CA. ;^)

BrendanB 09-06-2016 08:23 PM

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From New England, 2877 & 3467 were two very capable machines who fell short of qualify for St. Louis. Ligerbots had a solid autonomous program aiding them in autonomous as well as teleop and Windham started peaking at the DCMP with 7-9 high goals. We had a very capable field who qualified but its a reality of the district system is that a lot of good robots who could find themselves in the elimination rounds in St. Louis don't qualify.

Michael Corsetto 09-06-2016 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Citrus Dad (Post 1605123)
Ditto. They almost made it at Sac. They really improved in their second Regional. They're a strong argument for Districts in CA. ;^)

Thirded. 3250 had a great robot in 2016. Looking forward to watching it in action again during the offseason.

gigaphoton 09-06-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dmorewood (Post 1604741)
Honestly a big name that I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet is Wave, 2826. They always build a quality robot and they were the alliance captain at the Minnesota North Star regional where they were finalists.

This was shocking to me as well, I really did like their robot again this year. They could cycle extremely well, which made them a very powerful force to be reckoned with.

MrTechCenter 09-07-2016 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Citrus Dad (Post 1605123)
Ditto. They almost made it at Sac. They really improved in their second Regional. They're a strong argument for Districts in CA. ;^)

They made it to the Finals at Idaho too.

TheBoulderite 09-07-2016 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MrTechCenter (Post 1605218)
They made it to the Finals at Idaho too.

They did make it to the Finals at Idaho, but lost to 3230. As no wildcards were generated, they were out of luck.

InFlight 09-07-2016 10:28 AM

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The district model resolves most of these issues. The combined points from the two district events, and district championships results in consistently high performing robots moving on to championships.

The regional model will normally result in consistent 2nd place finishers not moving on. The only way to correct this issue is for more areas to transition to the district model.

BenjiSG 09-07-2016 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BrendanB (Post 1605129)
From New England, 2877 & 3467 were two very capable machines who fell short of qualify for St. Louis. Ligerbots had a solid autonomous program aiding them in autonomous as well as teleop and Windham started peaking at the DCMP with 7-9 high goals. We had a very capable field who qualified but its a reality of the district system is that a lot of good robots who could find themselves in the elimination rounds in St. Louis don't qualify.

Thanks for the mention! Our robot performed fairly well at our first two events, but by NE Champs the sprockets in our tread-based drive system had worn to the point where the chain of our treads came off every match, and left us immobile for most games. We managed to fix this for the post-season (as can be seen from our performance at BattleCry), but by the end of NE Champs we were Rank 63 and didn't make it to Worlds by just a few spots.

Windham definitely had it rough as well, as they missed Worlds by just one spot with a fully functioning robot. As a scout during NE Champs, I remember being shocked by just how bad their luck was for alliances during Qualification matches.


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