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JustinCAD 08-09-2016 15:43

Re: Spam
 
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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1605652)
Yup, spam accounts are disabled by the moderator at the same time the threads are deleted (unless the moderator forgets to do this). So each new spam thread is a new account usually.

I know it isn't a big deal, but could this be clarified? Does disabling mean removing the account from CD or removing access to the account?

The reason I ask this is because in the past when I've reported accounts, I've sometimes given a negative reputation to the user. Checking at my user cp, it lists the reputation given, and these accounts are still there. I can still view their account when I click on their name.

EmileH 08-09-2016 15:52

Re: Spam
 
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Originally Posted by ctt956 (Post 1605477)
But seriously, where will I find entertainingly bad grammar?

Reddit.

Brandon Martus 08-09-2016 15:53

Re: Spam
 
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Originally Posted by JustinCAD (Post 1605679)
I know it isn't a big deal, but could this be clarified? Does disabling mean removing the account from CD or removing access to the account?

The reason I ask this is because in the past when I've reported accounts, I've sometimes given a negative reputation to the user. Checking at my user cp, it lists the reputation given, and these accounts are still there. I can still view their account when I click on their name.

The accounts are there, but they cannot post or edit their profile.

Gravity 08-09-2016 16:23

Re: Spam
 
Hopefully this makes a difference, I've seen an influx of spam posts/accounts recently. It really dispirits me to see how people create these accounts just to make a disturbance in the CD community.

There are probably better uses for their time... :p

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Originally Posted by ctt956 (Post 1605477)
But seriously, where will I find entertainingly bad grammar?

Any YouTube video ever?

Joe Ross 08-09-2016 17:47

Re: Spam
 
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Originally Posted by Brandon Martus (Post 1605608)
My time machine is in the shop. So, any spam accounts registered before last night are still a threat.

There's still been a number of questionable accounts registered today.

logank013 08-09-2016 22:57

Re: Spam
 
Out of curiosity, who are the new mods.

I feel like there is a list somewhere of all the mods but I always have trouble finding it.

EricH 08-09-2016 23:07

Re: Spam
 
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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1605814)
Out of curiosity, who are the new mods.

I feel like there is a list somewhere of all the mods but I always have trouble finding it.

https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/showgroups.php

I think I know who 2-4 of the newer ones are, including at least two that are within the last couple days.

Foster 11-09-2016 17:49

Re: Spam
 
Thanks for the update on how it works.

Have to say, they seem to be trying "Re: Concentrations of Solutions Molarity" is close to a science thing you would find here. ;)

Good luck new moderators, we salute you for your valiant efforts!

chapman1 13-09-2016 17:21

Re: Spam
 
Thanks for the monumental effort that maintains this valuable site for the benefit of the FRC community.

logank013 13-09-2016 21:28

Re: Spam
 
Is there anyway to make the report feature more "intelligent"? For instance, can you add a question that says "Is this spam?" Then add two buttons for "yes" and "no". If "yes" is clicked, it is immediately removed from the site and sent to a "trash folder" and then sent to a mod to double check the report? Then the mod could empty the "trash folder" after double checking the reports.

frcguy 13-09-2016 21:32

Re: Spam
 
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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1606701)
Is there anyway to make the report feature more "intelligent"? For instance, can you add a question that says "Is this spam?" Then add two buttons for "yes" and "no". If "yes" is clicked, it is immediately removed from the site and sent to a "trash folder" and then sent to a mod to double check the report? Then the mod could empty the "trash folder" after double checking the reports.

How do you protect such a function from abuse?

logank013 13-09-2016 21:51

Re: Spam
 
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Originally Posted by frcguy (Post 1606702)
How do you protect such a function from abuse?

I thought about that too. That's part of why I thought of having a mod double checking the spam report. If it's spam, the mod removes it from the "trash folder" permanently. If it isn't spam and there are no problems, the mod reinstates it to it's original spot of posting.

With that said, I think the CD community for the most part won't report a post as spam when they are mad at someone to get their post removed. To make it harder for fake accounts to be created and to report someone they are mad at, this function could be only used by accounts with 50 posts or more.

Any accounts abusing this function can be suspended for a certain amount of time or removed entirely.

I think that if this is plausible as far as coding and building into the website, it would be a great way to remove spam. It wouldn't prevent spam but it would remove the spam from the visible website for the time being.

P.S. If the trash folder isn't plausible for coding, maybe have the post show up as deleted like when someone deletes their post. Instead of saying "deleted" it would say "spam".

I'm not a website builder but I'm trying to think of this from a "logical" perspective like I would when solving a Computer Science problem in Java.

Chris is me 14-09-2016 10:55

Re: Spam
 
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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1606705)
I thought about that too. That's part of why I thought of having a mod double checking the spam report. If it's spam, the mod removes it from the "trash folder" permanently. If it isn't spam and there are no problems, the mod reinstates it to it's original spot of posting.

With that said, I think the CD community for the most part won't report a post as spam when they are mad at someone to get their post removed. To make it harder for fake accounts to be created and to report someone they are mad at, this function could be only used by accounts with 50 posts or more.

It doesn't need to just be something most people won't abuse. It either needs to be not abuse-able at all, sufficiently hard enough to abuse that most people won't bother, or use of the feature needs to be restricted. It just takes one bad actor every once in awhile to temporarily hide a legitimate thread or two, and then it will take even more moderator work to restore it. Even if the majority of us would never do that, it would happen. Imgur had a similar feature, where if X people reported a post it would be automatically removed temporarily, and as soon as it was discovered it was heavily abused until it was disabled / tweaked.

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I'm not a website builder but I'm trying to think of this from a "logical" perspective like I would when solving a Computer Science problem in Java.
These kind of perspectives get a lot harder when you add human behavior and psychology into the mix. It is an important lesson to learn early into a programming career, to constantly consider human-machine interactions and the unintended consequences of seemingly simple solutions. It's a lesson more engineers and software people need to learn, frankly.

frcguy 14-09-2016 14:04

Re: Spam
 
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Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1606705)
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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1606745)
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Good points from both of you guys. From all the posts I've seen, we're all kind of rallying around the idea of users that exceed a certain metric (whether it be post count, rep, etc.) having extended privileges to remove or hide spam. So, is this something that can be implemented somewhat easily and if so how do we go about it? Are there any more thoughts about this idea?

ctt956 14-09-2016 20:43

Re: Spam
 
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Originally Posted by Bkeeneykid (Post 1605474)
Or how to buy new cheap iPhones?

Go check the homepage...:p

EDIT: It has been removed.


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