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This is a thread, one of a series over the years, dedicated to general stats about the speed, strength and direction of team & event registration for FRC (& serves as a campfire when the lights of registration servers go out).
P.S. Attached a plot of developing registration over the years. Data is always welcome here. However, please take chatter about specific events or teams to more appropriate threads on those topics. If you are maintaining running event/team/districts data on other threads or in standalone google spreadsheets and you want to share, please feel free to link to them or post here. Starting stats:
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Ryan's MAR & Regional centric data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing Allison's running FiM stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing Registration dates: 9/22 - Regional & District 1st event 10/6 - 2nd District event, CMP for pre-qualified teams (HOF, original, 2016 winners, etc.) 10/20 - 2nd Regional event, CMP waitlist 11/3 - Unrestricted Regional events, 3rd in-District events 11/10 - Cross District additional events 11/21 - Registration closes (but the CMP waitlist remains open until 4/10/17) |
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Always one of my favorite threads of the season. Thanks so much for doing this each year, Mark!
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Thank you Mark for putting together this thread again !
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Interested to see total Regional registration numbers after today.
Los Angeles is downgrading, Orange County is upgrading, and many other Regionals are moving to different venues. With several new events, I hope regional registration #s are generally up, but have a lower teams:regional ratio. |
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I notice that some of the events have a capacity of 0...will that be an issue when registering today?
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Thanks for the quick response, I am in the La Crosse area and am very excited for a local regional!
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Here's the link to my 2017 edition of FiM team and event stats. It's not particularly populated at the moment as I'm trying to remember how I compiled data efficiently the last two years. I'll update every day or two while registration is active.
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District event registration opened today at noon. Public facing APIs and database queries were disabled until now, it seems that they are all up again.
https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....=FRC&year=2017 http://173.255.246.196/2017/ http://frclinks.frclinks.com/ I imagine http://www.thebluealliance.com/ will pick up all these changes eventually as well. For the moment all regional events and both champs have been removed from FIRST's event list, showing only district events. |
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Restarting registration with only District teams today (Regional teams tomorrow).
560 district teams registered by the half hour. The current rate of event registration is roughly 2 teams/minute 3.7% are rookies Granite State is full of course. WPI will be a close second, but not yet. |
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what is the lowest number rookie for 2017? |
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6300, but that team isn't visible yet.
The lowest currently visible rookie team number is 6312 |
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At 12:05 registration worked with no lag. 2974 is going to PCH Dalton for its first event.
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Comparing with last year's numbers, it looks like a joint registration would have been an almost even split with Regional teams being only a few percent more than District teams, so that likely cut the server surge load in half.
We'll see tomorrow. |
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I registered my team, Rosie 839, for WPI (in NE) at 12:00:40. The team count was at 7 open slots when I logged off at 12:02.
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That, and the WPI event is awesome. |
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The rookie rate rises much higher later on. They are generally slower getting organized. |
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We'll see how this plays out with regional teams. |
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The only way for such teams to attend two NE District Events is to go to WPI (Week 2) and Pine Tree (Week 5). Some would say we should count our blessings that we at least have one pair of events on different weeks that aren't on a Sunday. Guess which events 1519 will be attending? ;) |
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Waterloo is the second district event to fill.
So NE Granite State - 0 ONT Waterloo - 0 The single digit events are: CHS Greater DC - 5 FIM Midland - 8 FIM Traverse City - 9 MAR Hatboro-Horsham - 3 MAR Mt. Olive - 9 NE WPI - 1 NC Greensboro - 8 |
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So, District events are temporarily closed out from 9am to noon today when they will reopen for both Regional and District initial registration and we get to see what the Regional rush looks like.
District registration was down this morning to about a new team every 20 minutes or so. The District component after noon today should have an inconsequential impact on the Regional crush. 878 District teams are registered for specific events. 29 rookie teams ~3.3% 849 veteran teams (including several 'new' veterans - spinoffs or sister teams - yes an all-girls team has a sister boys team now :) Only two events reached the initial capacity cap. 98 - CHS (11.2%) 203 - FIM (23.1%) 45 - PCH (5.1%) 43 - IN (4.9%) 0 - ISR (events haven't been set yet) (0%) 96 - MAR (10.9%) 154 - NE (17.5%) 44 - NC (5.0%) 119 - ONT (13.6%) 76 - PNW (8.7%) |
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6238 is considered a veteran team by FIRST's Rookie criteria and was given a number from last season (2016) to reflect their veteran status.
They aren't eligible for rookie awards in this 2017 season, even though as a team they may be playing for the first time. You'll sometimes notice me calling these types of teams "new veterans". There are new veterans with even lower team numbers. e.g., 747. |
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Thanks Richard, the insight is much appreciated!
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Mine crashed after hitting Register.. oh well
9 slots left at LI when it went. Districts have nothin' on Regional clickers :) At least even though CD is slow, I'm not locked out of editing posts this time around :) |
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Another way to look district teams, this is the percent teams of teams have signed up so far per district compared to the total number of teams that signed up last year in that district.
98 - CHS (74.2%) 203 - FIM (49.4%) 45 - PCH (69.2%) 43 - IN (87.8%) 96 - MAR (79.3%) 154 - NE (85.0%) 44 - NC (84.6%) 76 - PNW (48.1%) |
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Here's a sloppy snapshot of Regional capacities
***Missing most week 5 Regional events because I can't see them yet Alamo DATE: April 5, 2017: San Antonio, TX, USA CAPACITY: 15 Arizona North DATE: March 8, 2017: Flagstaff, AZ, USA CAPACITY: 44 Arizona West DATE: April 5, 2017: Phoenix, AZ, USA CAPACITY: 18 Arkansas Rock City DATE: March 8, 2017: Little Rock, AR, USA CAPACITY: 44 Bayou DATE: March 22, 2017: Kenner, LA, USA CAPACITY: 38 Central Illinois DATE: March 15, 2017: Peoria, IL, USA CAPACITY: 16 Central Valley DATE: March 9, 2017: Madera, CA, USA CAPACITY: 36 Colorado DATE: March 22, 2017: Denver, CO, USA CAPACITY: 35 Dallas DATE: March 8, 2017: Irving, TX, USA CAPACITY: 20 Festival de Robotique - Montreal DATE: March 22, 2017: Montreal, QC, Canada CAPACITY: 15 Finger Lakes DATE: March 15, 2017: Rochester, NY, USA CAPACITY: 27 Greater Kansas City DATE: March 15, 2017: Kansas City, MO, USA CAPACITY: 22 Greater Pittsburgh DATE: March 15, 2017: California, PA, USA CAPACITY: 7 Hub City DATE: March 1, 2017: Lubbock, TX, USA CAPACITY: 34 Hudson Valley DATE: March 23, 2017: uffern, NY, USA CAPACITY: 20 Iowa DATE: March 22, 2017: Cedar Falls, IA, USA CAPACITY: 29 Lake Superior DATE: March 1, 2017: Duluth, MN, USA CAPACITY: 0 Las Vegas DATE: April 5, 2017: Las Vegas, NV, USA CAPACITY: 34 Lone Star Central DATE: March 15, 2017: Houston, TX, USA CAPACITY: 25 Los Angeles DATE: March 23, 2017: Long Beach, CA, USA CAPACITY: 5 Mexico City - See Site InformationDATE: May 1, 2017: Mexico City, DIF, Mexico CAPACITY: 0 Miami Valley DATE: March 8, 2017: pringfield, OH, USA CAPACITY: 10 Minnesota 10000 Lakes DATE: April 5, 2017: Minneapolis, MN, USA CAPACITY: 0 Minnesota North Star DATE: April 5, 2017: Minneapolis, MN, USA CAPACITY: 0 New York City DATE: April 6, 2017: New York, NY, USA CAPACITY: 0 New York Tech Valley DATE: March 15, 2017: Troy, NY, USA CAPACITY: 10 Northern Lights DATE: March 1, 2017: Duluth, MN, USA CAPACITY: 13 Oklahoma DATE: March 22, 2017: Oklahoma City, OK, USA CAPACITY: 39 Orlando DATE: March 8, 2017: Orlando, FL, USA CAPACITY: 18 Palmetto DATE: March 1, 2017: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA CAPACITY: 44 Rocket City DATE: March 22, 2017: Huntsville, AL, USA CAPACITY: 34 Sacramento DATE: March 22, 2017: Davis, CA, USA CAPACITY: 33 San Diego presented by QualcommDATE: March 8, 2017: Del Mar, CA, USA CAPACITY: 16 San Francisco DATE: March 16, 2017: San Francisco, CA, USA CAPACITY: 24 SBPLI Long Island DATE: March 30, 2017: Hempstead, NY, USA CAPACITY: 0 Seven Rivers DATE: April 12, 2017: La Crosse, WI, USA CAPACITY: 0 Shenzhen DATE: March 8, 2017: henzhen City, 44, China CAPACITY: 17 Smoky Mountains DATE: March 22, 2017: Knoxville, TN, USA CAPACITY: 26 South Florida DATE: March 1, 2017: West Palm Beach, FL, USA CAPACITY: 43 South Pacific DATE: March 16, 2017: ydney Olympic Park, NSW, Australia CAPACITY: 27 Southern Cross DATE: March 13, 2017: ydney Olympic Park, NSW, Australia CAPACITY: 28 St. Louis DATE: March 8, 2017: t. Louis, MO, USA CAPACITY: 5 Utah DATE: March 8, 2017: West Valley City, UT, USA CAPACITY: 29 Ventura DATE: March 15, 2017: Ventura, CA, USA CAPACITY: 21 Western Canada DATE: April 5, 2017: Calgary, AB, Canada CAPACITY: 50 Wisconsin DATE: March 22, 2017: Milwaukee, WI, USA CAPACITY: 40 |
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Polite request for a moderator to once again move the bulk of the posts in this thread to the FIRST Server Issues thread, so that the Registration 2017 thread can remain about its primary topic. :)
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After dealing with our own TIMs issues for a couple hours, 229 finally got our backup choice of Montreal.
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I wish FIRST would re-open the API so I can see counts elsewhere and the teams that are signed up.
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This is missing most of the week 5 events (if anyone can send or post that week periodically), but of the others...
910 Regional teams, plus whatever the other week 5 events have, have registered and been accepted into an event as of 3:30pm Thats more than the number of District teams that had registered by 9am this morning (878). At 0 capacity: Lake Superior Los Angeles Mexico City (never had more than 0 capacity listed) Minnesota 10000 Lakes Minnesota North Star New York City SBPLI Long Island Seven Rivers (never had more than 0 capacity listed) St. Louis In the single digits: Montreal - 8 Pittsburgh - 3 Miami Valley - 5 New York Tech Valley - 8 Northern Lights - 3 San Diego - 1 Shenzhen - 4 |
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I don't know where Mark finds it, but others here showed me how to find it when I'm in TIMS....on the Dashboard, scroll down and select "Event Registration", then on the page that comes up, select "Find an Event".
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Some quirks I had on registration.
1. Some people had mentioned issues with logging into the dashboard. I had that same issue for some time now. Its a good thing I saw it before, because I was able to still get in by refreshing. It wasnt as trivial the first time I saw it. 2. Now that we are registered, I tried to print out the invoice to create a PO to pay for it. Well, the system doesnt do it anymore! I called FIRST and they asked for my info so that they could manually send it.:confused: |
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Wish I could say "That was fun!" but it wasn't.
Logged in no problem. Clicked "Register" for my regional, and then got no response. Tried reloading, got server error stuff for half and hour. Finally re-logged in and it said I was registered! Evidently it began the registration process, and picked up after whatever reboot happened. |
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Arens list still gives the event starting capacities. Adding gives number of Regional teams registered less several week 5 events which I can't see in TIMS. |
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http://archive.usfirst.org/whats-going-on It is not ideal but allows for manual look-ups of information. |
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1084 Regional teams + 878 District teams = 1962
If there is any action in the District events I can't see that too easily. At 0 capacity: Lake Superior Los Angeles Mexico City (never had more than 0 capacity listed) Minnesota 10000 Lakes Minnesota North Star New York City SBPLI Long Island Seven Rivers (never had more than 0 capacity listed) St. Louis San Diego In the single digits: Alamo - 6 Arizona West - 9 Montreal - 6 Pittsburgh - 2 Miami Valley - 5 New York Tech Valley - 7 Northern Lights - 1 Shenzhen - 4 Silicon Valley - 6 |
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As it's all-but-set-in-stone we're a one-regional team this year it's kinda fun to armchair quarterback this year's registration....
I'm very surprised to see HVR with only 5 teams, and most of those are TVR-local teams. (Even with NYC and LI full.) At the same time TVR is at 14 teams with 7 left open (and a holdback of at most 15 more). TVR will play host to 3390 from Turkey, and 4083 from South Carolina, so far. There are a few more TVR-local teams that have not registered yet, so it will be interesting to see what happens. |
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I know the Minnesota events only open just over half of the expected spots and waiting lists the remainder.
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5254 managed to get signed up for SBPLI Long Island, although I'm disappointed to see 229 didn't get in. It would have been nice to see any of our 2016 alliance partners at a regional, but oh well. |
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I took into account all events (District as well as Regionals) and came up with 2089 teams assigned to specific events as of 9 pm.
This doesn't take into account any waitlisted teams at any of the filled events, of which there are 10. If FIRST publishes totals those typically include the waitlisted teams, too. |
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Robodox are Team 599. Wonder if there are any other oddities on the reg site. |
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And quick summary of registered teams at CA regionals, as of 10:50pm using the old site (registered/total (open)): San Diego: 50/50 (0) Central Valley: 5/38 (33) Ventura: 16/32 (16) San Francisco: 12/32 (20) Sacramento: 24/50 (26) Los Angeles: 50/50 (0) Silicon Valley: 50/50 (0) Orange County: 26/38 (12) Open spots (norcal): 79 Open spots (socal): 28 Total open spots: 107 Filled spots (norcal): 91 Filled spots (socal): 142 Total filled spots: 233 Total spots (norcal): 170 Total spots (socal): 170 Total spots: 340 Number of CA teams in 2016: 258 |
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2143 teams are listed at events
At 0 capacity: Lake Superior Los Angeles Mexico City (never had more than 0 capacity listed) Minnesota 10000 Lakes Minnesota North Star New York City SBPLI Long Island Seven Rivers (never had more than 0 capacity listed) St. Louis San Diego Silicon Valley ONT Waterloo NE Granite State NE WPI In the single digits: Alamo - 1 Arizona West - 7 Greater Kansas City - 7 Montreal - 3 Pittsburgh - 1 Miami Valley - 5 New York Tech Valley - 7 Northern Lights - 1 Shenzhen - 4 ONT Ryerson Univ. - 6 NC Raleigh - 9 NC Greensboro - 7 MAR Mt. Olive - 6 MAR Hatboro-Horsham - 1 FIM Traverse City - 4 FIM Midland - 5 FIM Kettering #1 - 4 (#2 didn't seem to be open as a home event) CHS Greater DC - 5 |
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43 of 50 open slots already taken.
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API appears to be working again.
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Am I crazy or did the Laguna Regional switch from Week 1 to Week 4?
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Here's a plot of the first few days of registration in comparison to previous years.
This year is a different shape because of the split District/Regional registration starts, and the lack of dependable total team counts for the first 36 hours of Regional registration. It's looking like a pretty good year for FRC teams overall, 2017 early registration was up ~25% over 2016 numbers. District team starting registration alone was better than all 2012 starting registration (Districts + Regionals). |
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I always love seeing those graphs, Mark... But with registration starting 2 weeks later this year because of the server issues, should we still show them all starting at the same time? My thinking is that the extra two weeks meant more teams had started up for the fall, figured out their finances, gotten grants, etc than we normally have on day 1, so it may not be a fair comparison to previous years. And looking forward to next year, it may make next year's start up look slow for the first couple of weeks.
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A valid point. Things are really skewed this year.
So using actual dates 2017 is behind 2016 by about 7% as of this morning 9am.
P.S. My rookie team from last year still isn't registered because replacing the second coach is taking a long time. And our local event is full...and I mean completely full... |
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Events that are on waitlist status:
Northern Lights Regional Lake Superior Regional San Diego Regional St. Louis Regional Greater Pittsburgh Regional Los Angeles Regional Silicon Valley Regional SBPLI Long Island Regional Minnesota North Star Regional Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional Alamo Regional New York City Regional Seven Rivers Regional Mexico City Regional NE District - Granite State Event NE District - WPI Event ONT District - University of Waterloo Event Single digit events: 1 - Shenzhen Regional 1 - Orlando Regional 1 - FIM District - Kettering University Event #1 1 - MAR District - Hatboro-Horsham Event 2 - Miami Valley Regional 3 - Festival de Robotique - Montreal Regional 3 - FIM District - Traverse City Event 4 - Greater Kansas City Regional 4 - Arizona West Regional 4 - CHS District - Greater DC Event 4 - FIM District - Midland Event 4 - MAR District - Mount Olive Event 5 - New York Tech Valley Regional 6 - NC District - Greensboro Event 6 - ONT District - Ryerson University Event 8 - FIM District - West Michigan Event 8 - PNW District - Glacier Peak Event 8 - PNW District - Lake Oswego Event 9 - NC District - Raleigh Event |
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16 countries
Here are where the event registered teams are from: 261 ----- MI 220 ----- CA 129 ----- Canada-ON 125 ----- NY 122 ----- MN 88 ----- TX 85 ----- WA 68 ----- NJ 65 ----- VA 61 ----- PA 60 ----- MA 54 ----- MO 54 ----- OH 53 ----- FL 51 ----- GA 49 ----- IL 48 ----- NC 47 ----- WI 47 ----- China 46 ----- CT 46 ----- IN 42 ----- OK 40 ----- AZ 35 ----- OR 35 ----- Canada-QC 33 ----- MD 30 ----- SC 26 ----- NH 25 ----- ME 24 ----- Turkey 22 ----- TN 21 ----- CO 18 ----- IA 18 ----- KS 18 ----- Australia 16 ----- LA 15 ----- HI 14 ----- Mexico 11 ----- UT 9 ----- AR 8 ----- AL 8 ----- ID 8 ----- KY 8 ----- NV 8 ----- Canada-AB 7 ----- DC 6 ----- Canada-BC 5 ----- MS 5 ----- RI 5 ----- Brazil 4 ----- VT 3 ----- DE 3 ----- WV 2 ----- ND 2 ----- NE 2 ----- NM 2 ----- WY 2 ----- Chile 2 ----- Netherlands 2 ----- United Kingdom 1 ----- AK 1 ----- MT 1 ----- SD 1 ----- Canada-SK 1 ----- Colombia 1 ----- France 1 ----- Germany 1 ----- Singapore 1 ----- Switzerland 1 ----- Taiwan |
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Which will be the first District with a main language other than English? |
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:o I forgot Israel has already taken the plunge. Didn't see anything here about it for the last month or so, and Mark's list doesn't have Israel (yet) due to registration timing. |
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2400 teams are registered
Here's a plot of the portion of FRC comprised of non-US based teams over the past five seasons. |
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Second Event Registration for MI and PNW teams will open 1 hour early.
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When NE went districts, that's when the Tech Valley Regional started, as we could no longer go into New England from the Albany area. It's unfortunate that didn't happen with Montreal. |
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2468 = today's team count
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27% of last season's teams (851) have not been heard from yet (not unusual). |
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