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Mark McLeod 22-09-2016 10:16

Registration 2017
 
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This is a thread, one of a series over the years, dedicated to general stats about the speed, strength and direction of team & event registration for FRC (& serves as a campfire when the lights of registration servers go out).
P.S. Attached a plot of developing registration over the years.

Data is always welcome here. However, please take chatter about specific events or teams to more appropriate threads on those topics.
If you are maintaining running event/team/districts data on other threads or in standalone google spreadsheets and you want to share, please feel free to link to them or post here.

Starting stats:
  • 3380 rough projection of the 2017 team total count. That's from 3130 total teams last season (finally settled on April 6 just before most District Championships) and I expect the gain this year is probably going to be between 7 and 8 percent which is roughly the average gain of the past couple of years.
  • 6300 will be the starting Rookie number for this season (#6237 was the last rookie registered last season & FIRST usually rounds up to save a few team numbers each season).
  • 10 District areas (vs 8 last season), new districts in Israel, Ontario
  • 78 District events (vs 65 last season), plus 10 District Championships (vs 8) , and there is always the possibility of a late popup event in Michigan.
  • 55 Regionals showing (vs 53 last season)
    New Regionals in Texas, China, New York, Australia, Wisconsin, California (did I miss any?) Mexico
  • Two World Championship locations (vs 1 last season)

Favorite links:
Ryan's MAR & Regional centric data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
Allison's running FiM stats: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Registration dates:
9/22 - Regional & District 1st event
10/6 - 2nd District event, CMP for pre-qualified teams (HOF, original, 2016 winners, etc.)
10/20 - 2nd Regional event, CMP waitlist
11/3 - Unrestricted Regional events, 3rd in-District events
11/10 - Cross District additional events
11/21 - Registration closes (but the CMP waitlist remains open until 4/10/17)

Hallry 22-09-2016 10:24

Re: Registration 2017
 
Always one of my favorite threads of the season. Thanks so much for doing this each year, Mark!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1608261)
[*]New Regionals in Texas, China, New York, Australia, Wisconsin, California (did I miss any?)

Mexico!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1608261)

In addition to Aren's awesome site and the official old-style FIRST database (which I prefer to access via this link), I'll be periodically updating my Google Doc spreadsheet for those following at home. Best of luck to everyone at noon today!

Trying to Help 22-09-2016 10:36

Re: Registration 2017
 
Thank you Mark!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1608261)
[*]Old-style FIRST database access: https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index.lasso

I'm having trouble making this generating data at this site. 2016 & 2017 FRC events and teams aren't showing. I've tried under Chrome, Safari and Firefox. Anyone have any pointers?

Hallry 22-09-2016 10:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Trying to Help (Post 1608265)
I'm having trouble making this generating data at this site. 2016 & 2017 FRC events and teams aren't showing. I've tried under Chrome, Safari and Firefox. Anyone have any pointers?

Try using this link:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1608262)
the official old-style FIRST database (which I prefer to access via this link)


lynca 22-09-2016 10:49

Re: Registration 2017
 
Thank you Mark for putting together this thread again !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1608261)
[*]Rookie numbers will start somewhere after #6237 (the last rookie registered last season).

Any predictions if we will hit #7000s in team numbers ?

SenorZ 22-09-2016 10:50

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Interested to see total Regional registration numbers after today.

Los Angeles is downgrading, Orange County is upgrading, and many other Regionals are moving to different venues. With several new events, I hope regional registration #s are generally up, but have a lower teams:regional ratio.

bobbysq 22-09-2016 11:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1608269)
Any predictions if we will hit #7000s in team numbers ?

Probably not, unless a region suddenly got a huge STEM push.

Mark McLeod 22-09-2016 11:09

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1608269)
Any predictions if we will hit #7000s in team numbers ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbysq (Post 1608271)
Probably not, unless a region suddenly got a huge STEM push.

I agree it's very unlikely. Assuming teams start getting assigned #'s starting at 6300, it would require two normal years worth of rookies to reach 7000. Next year yes.

jessefredrick 22-09-2016 11:31

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I notice that some of the events have a capacity of 0...will that be an issue when registering today?

Bkeeneykid 22-09-2016 11:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jessefredrick (Post 1608295)
I notice that some of the events have a capacity of 0...will that be an issue when registering today?

On some of these, you have to qualify for, like District and World championships. Some, like the Mexico City regional still do not have a event location, so you must apply to the waitlist and then be accepted afterwards once they have a location set. Some, like the Seven Rivers Regional, require you to be checked manually by FIRST to make sure that you are not in a conflict (see the recent blog post about this one). It won't be an issue for most people, just submit to be on the waitlist.

jessefredrick 22-09-2016 11:37

Re: Registration 2017
 
Thanks for the quick response, I am in the La Crosse area and am very excited for a local regional!

Allison K 22-09-2016 11:51

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Here's the link to my 2017 edition of FiM team and event stats. It's not particularly populated at the moment as I'm trying to remember how I compiled data efficiently the last two years. I'll update every day or two while registration is active.

Greg Needel 23-09-2016 14:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1608389)
Sorry about your thread Mark. This isn't how its supposed to work.

I broke all the server issue posts into another thread so this one stays clear and is ready for data come next week (servers willing)

Cothron Theiss 23-09-2016 14:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Needel (Post 1608689)
I broke all the server issue posts into another thread so this one stays clear and is ready for data come next week (servers willing)

Thanks for doing this and for the transparency in doing so.

plnyyanks 23-09-2016 14:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Needel (Post 1608689)
I broke all the server issue posts into another thread so this one stays clear and is ready for data come next week (servers willing)

Thanks Greg! The split thread can be found here, for those looking: https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...d.php?t=151492

Aren Siekmeier 05-10-2016 12:30

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District event registration opened today at noon. Public facing APIs and database queries were disabled until now, it seems that they are all up again.

https://my.usfirst.org/myarea/index....=FRC&year=2017
http://173.255.246.196/2017/
http://frclinks.frclinks.com/

I imagine http://www.thebluealliance.com/ will pick up all these changes eventually as well.

For the moment all regional events and both champs have been removed from FIRST's event list, showing only district events.

Mark McLeod 05-10-2016 12:31

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Restarting registration with only District teams today (Regional teams tomorrow).
560 district teams registered by the half hour.
The current rate of event registration is roughly 2 teams/minute
3.7% are rookies

Granite State is full of course.
WPI will be a close second, but not yet.

Trying to Help 05-10-2016 12:34

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1610330)
560 district teams registered by the half hour.

Granite State is full of course.
WPI will be a close second, but not yet.

1729 is happy to be attending Granite State once again!

cgodzyk 05-10-2016 13:14

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Mark,

what is the lowest number rookie for 2017?

Mark McLeod 05-10-2016 13:16

Re: Registration 2017
 
6300, but that team isn't visible yet.
The lowest currently visible rookie team number is 6312

FrankJ 05-10-2016 13:25

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At 12:05 registration worked with no lag. 2974 is going to PCH Dalton for its first event.

Mark McLeod 05-10-2016 13:53

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Comparing with last year's numbers, it looks like a joint registration would have been an almost even split with Regional teams being only a few percent more than District teams, so that likely cut the server surge load in half.
We'll see tomorrow.

Rosiebotboss 05-10-2016 13:56

Re: Registration 2017
 
I registered my team, Rosie 839, for WPI (in NE) at 12:00:40. The team count was at 7 open slots when I logged off at 12:02.

Daler99 05-10-2016 14:02

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rosiebotboss (Post 1610356)
I registered my team, Rosie 839, for WPI (in NE) at 12:00:40. The team count was at 7 open slots when I logged off at 12:02.

5813 is looking forward to competing at the 2017 WPI District event! As of right now, WPI has only 1 open slot.

NShep98 05-10-2016 14:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daler99 (Post 1610357)
5813 is looking forward to competing at the 2017 WPI District event! As of right now, WPI has only 1 open slot.

I had no idea WPI would still be so popular given the unusual scheduling.

nuclearnerd 05-10-2016 15:25

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1610330)
560 district teams registered by the half hour.
The current rate of event registration is roughly 2 teams/minute
3.7% are rookies

is that a normal rate for rookies on the first day? From a previous thread, it looks like somewhere between 10-15% of 2nd year teams fold, so I would have expected many more rookie teams to prop up the FIRST growth rate.

petercooperjr 05-10-2016 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by NShep98 (Post 1610362)
I had no idea WPI would still be so popular given the unusual scheduling.

NE Teams that won't (or prefer not to) compete on Sundays have few options.

That, and the WPI event is awesome.

Mark McLeod 05-10-2016 15:47

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nuclearnerd (Post 1610369)
is that a normal rate for rookies on the first day?

Pretty normal.
The rookie rate rises much higher later on.
They are generally slower getting organized.

Lil' Lavery 05-10-2016 15:55

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1610354)
Comparing with last year's numbers, it looks like a joint registration would have been an almost even split with Regional teams being only a few percent more than District teams, so that likely cut the server surge load in half.
We'll see tomorrow.

District registration tends to be less restrictive, as teams are bound to their own district and don't have to worry about far away teams competing for their spots. FiM and PNW also have assigned "home events" that make the process even less competitive for first registration events. In the end, there's far less need for teams to rush to register during the first 90 seconds of the process being open.

We'll see how this plays out with regional teams.

Ken Streeter 05-10-2016 19:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by petercooperjr (Post 1610375)
NE Teams that won't (or prefer not to) compete on Sundays have few options.

This year, "few options" is actually zero "options" (if option implies a choice) for NE District teams who won't compete on Sundays.

The only way for such teams to attend two NE District Events is to go to WPI (Week 2) and Pine Tree (Week 5).

Some would say we should count our blessings that we at least have one pair of events on different weeks that aren't on a Sunday.

Guess which events 1519 will be attending? ;)

Mark McLeod 05-10-2016 20:37

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Waterloo is the second district event to fill.
So
NE Granite State - 0
ONT Waterloo - 0

The single digit events are:

CHS Greater DC - 5

FIM Midland - 8
FIM Traverse City - 9

MAR Hatboro-Horsham - 3
MAR Mt. Olive - 9

NE WPI - 1

NC Greensboro - 8

crazyrobochick 06-10-2016 08:04

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ken Streeter (Post 1610412)
This year, "few options" is actually zero "options" (if option implies a choice) for NE District teams who won't compete on Sundays.

The only way for such teams to attend two NE District Events is to go to WPI (Week 2) and Pine Tree (Week 5).

Some would say we should count our blessings that we at least have one pair of events on different weeks that aren't on a Sunday.

Guess which events 1519 will be attending? ;)

If you guys need any logistics help this year when traveling to Maine let us know. The Nuts & Bolts have been going there for the past three years but decided to try Rhode Island this year instead. We would be happy to pass on any contacts we can.

Mark McLeod 06-10-2016 09:21

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So, District events are temporarily closed out from 9am to noon today when they will reopen for both Regional and District initial registration and we get to see what the Regional rush looks like.

District registration was down this morning to about a new team every 20 minutes or so. The District component after noon today should have an inconsequential impact on the Regional crush.

878 District teams are registered for specific events.
29 rookie teams ~3.3%
849 veteran teams (including several 'new' veterans - spinoffs or sister teams - yes an all-girls team has a sister boys team now :)
Only two events reached the initial capacity cap.

98 - CHS (11.2%)
203 - FIM (23.1%)
45 - PCH (5.1%)
43 - IN (4.9%)
0 - ISR (events haven't been set yet) (0%)
96 - MAR (10.9%)
154 - NE (17.5%)
44 - NC (5.0%)
119 - ONT (13.6%)
76 - PNW (8.7%)

bobbysq 06-10-2016 09:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1610339)
6300, but that team isn't visible yet.
The lowest currently visible rookie team number is 6312

6238 is lower

Aren Siekmeier 06-10-2016 09:43

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbysq (Post 1610479)

Are 6238 to 6242 perhaps teams who registered and received rookie team numbers last year, but did not compete? 6237 is a 2016 rookie.

Mark McLeod 06-10-2016 09:49

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6238 is considered a veteran team by FIRST's Rookie criteria and was given a number from last season (2016) to reflect their veteran status.
They aren't eligible for rookie awards in this 2017 season, even though as a team they may be playing for the first time.

You'll sometimes notice me calling these types of teams "new veterans".
There are new veterans with even lower team numbers. e.g., 747.

Taylor 06-10-2016 10:10

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1610476)
98 - CHS (11.2%)
203 - FIM (23.1%)
45 - PCH (5.1%)
43 - IN (4.9%)
0 - ISR (events haven't been set yet) (0%)
96 - MAR (10.9%)
154 - NE (7.5%)
44 - NC (5.0%)
119 - ONT (13.6%)
76 - PNW (8.7%)

Forgive me - what do the percentages represent? At first I thought they meant portions of the total registered teams, but their sum is only 90%.

Jon Stratis 06-10-2016 10:17

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1610483)
Forgive me - what do the percentages represent? At first I thought they meant portions of the total registered teams, but their sum is only 90%.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1610476)
98 - CHS (11.2%)
203 - FIM (23.1%)
45 - PCH (5.1%)
43 - IN (4.9%)
0 - ISR (events haven't been set yet) (0%)
96 - MAR (10.9%)
154 - NE (17.5%)
44 - NC (5.0%)
119 - ONT (13.6%)
76 - PNW (8.7%)

Fixed :)

Mark McLeod 06-10-2016 10:17

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1610483)
Forgive me - what do the percentages represent? At first I thought they meant portions of the total registered teams, but their sum is only 90%.

They were supposed to be. I'll look for my error and correct it.

Thanks Jon!

Richard Wallace 06-10-2016 11:48

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1610428)
...single digit events...
FIM Midland - 8
FIM Traverse City - 9

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1610476)
203 - FIM (23.1%)

When each FiM team has registered for its home event, three of those events will be in single-digit territory: Centerline, Midland, and Traverse City. Here is a list of FiM events, with the number of teams assigned to each as their home.

Code:

Ann Arbor        25
Centerline        34
Escanaba        18
Gull Lake        17
Howell                9
Kentwood        21
Kettering*        41
Lakeview        16
Lansing                8
Livonia                20
LSSU                13
Marysville        16
Midland                34
Southfield        23
St. Joseph        16
Traverse City        32
Troy                16
Waterford        18
West Michigan        26
Woodhaven        15

*Kettering hosts two district competitions.

The list above includes 411 veterans and 7 pre-identified rookies. Based on the last few years, we should expect a few veterans will not return, and many more rookies will be added. FiM may need to add an event or two. We are already up to four events in some weeks; e.g., Week 2 has Ann Arbor, Centerline, Kettering #2, and St. Joseph.

Mark McLeod 06-10-2016 11:54

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Thanks Richard, the insight is much appreciated!

Mark McLeod 06-10-2016 11:58

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Mine crashed after hitting Register.. oh well
9 slots left at LI when it went.

Districts have nothin' on Regional clickers :)

At least even though CD is slow, I'm not locked out of editing posts this time around :)

Drakxii 06-10-2016 11:58

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Another way to look district teams, this is the percent teams of teams have signed up so far per district compared to the total number of teams that signed up last year in that district.

98 - CHS (74.2%)
203 - FIM (49.4%)
45 - PCH (69.2%)
43 - IN (87.8%)
96 - MAR (79.3%)
154 - NE (85.0%)
44 - NC (84.6%)
76 - PNW (48.1%)

Mark McLeod 06-10-2016 13:26

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Here's a sloppy snapshot of Regional capacities
***Missing most week 5 Regional events because I can't see them yet

Alamo DATE: April 5, 2017: San Antonio, TX, USA CAPACITY: 15
Arizona North DATE: March 8, 2017: Flagstaff, AZ, USA CAPACITY: 44
Arizona West DATE: April 5, 2017: Phoenix, AZ, USA CAPACITY: 18
Arkansas Rock City DATE: March 8, 2017: Little Rock, AR, USA CAPACITY: 44
Bayou DATE: March 22, 2017: Kenner, LA, USA CAPACITY: 38
Central Illinois DATE: March 15, 2017: Peoria, IL, USA CAPACITY: 16
Central Valley DATE: March 9, 2017: Madera, CA, USA CAPACITY: 36
Colorado DATE: March 22, 2017: Denver, CO, USA CAPACITY: 35
Dallas DATE: March 8, 2017: Irving, TX, USA CAPACITY: 20
Festival de Robotique - Montreal DATE: March 22, 2017: Montreal, QC, Canada CAPACITY: 15
Finger Lakes DATE: March 15, 2017: Rochester, NY, USA CAPACITY: 27
Greater Kansas City DATE: March 15, 2017: Kansas City, MO, USA CAPACITY: 22
Greater Pittsburgh DATE: March 15, 2017: California, PA, USA CAPACITY: 7
Hub City DATE: March 1, 2017: Lubbock, TX, USA CAPACITY: 34
Hudson Valley DATE: March 23, 2017: uffern, NY, USA CAPACITY: 20
Iowa DATE: March 22, 2017: Cedar Falls, IA, USA CAPACITY: 29
Lake Superior DATE: March 1, 2017: Duluth, MN, USA CAPACITY: 0
Las Vegas DATE: April 5, 2017: Las Vegas, NV, USA CAPACITY: 34
Lone Star Central DATE: March 15, 2017: Houston, TX, USA CAPACITY: 25
Los Angeles DATE: March 23, 2017: Long Beach, CA, USA CAPACITY: 5
Mexico City - See Site InformationDATE: May 1, 2017: Mexico City, DIF, Mexico CAPACITY: 0
Miami Valley DATE: March 8, 2017: pringfield, OH, USA CAPACITY: 10
Minnesota 10000 Lakes DATE: April 5, 2017: Minneapolis, MN, USA CAPACITY: 0
Minnesota North Star DATE: April 5, 2017: Minneapolis, MN, USA CAPACITY: 0
New York City DATE: April 6, 2017: New York, NY, USA CAPACITY: 0
New York Tech Valley DATE: March 15, 2017: Troy, NY, USA CAPACITY: 10
Northern Lights DATE: March 1, 2017: Duluth, MN, USA CAPACITY: 13
Oklahoma DATE: March 22, 2017: Oklahoma City, OK, USA CAPACITY: 39
Orlando DATE: March 8, 2017: Orlando, FL, USA CAPACITY: 18
Palmetto DATE: March 1, 2017: Myrtle Beach, SC, USA CAPACITY: 44
Rocket City DATE: March 22, 2017: Huntsville, AL, USA CAPACITY: 34
Sacramento DATE: March 22, 2017: Davis, CA, USA CAPACITY: 33
San Diego presented by QualcommDATE: March 8, 2017: Del Mar, CA, USA CAPACITY: 16
San Francisco DATE: March 16, 2017: San Francisco, CA, USA CAPACITY: 24
SBPLI Long Island DATE: March 30, 2017: Hempstead, NY, USA CAPACITY: 0
Seven Rivers DATE: April 12, 2017: La Crosse, WI, USA CAPACITY: 0
Shenzhen DATE: March 8, 2017: henzhen City, 44, China CAPACITY: 17
Smoky Mountains DATE: March 22, 2017: Knoxville, TN, USA CAPACITY: 26
South Florida DATE: March 1, 2017: West Palm Beach, FL, USA CAPACITY: 43
South Pacific DATE: March 16, 2017: ydney Olympic Park, NSW, Australia CAPACITY: 27
Southern Cross DATE: March 13, 2017: ydney Olympic Park, NSW, Australia CAPACITY: 28
St. Louis DATE: March 8, 2017: t. Louis, MO, USA CAPACITY: 5
Utah DATE: March 8, 2017: West Valley City, UT, USA CAPACITY: 29
Ventura DATE: March 15, 2017: Ventura, CA, USA CAPACITY: 21
Western Canada DATE: April 5, 2017: Calgary, AB, Canada CAPACITY: 50
Wisconsin DATE: March 22, 2017: Milwaukee, WI, USA CAPACITY: 40

Lil' Lavery 06-10-2016 13:26

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Polite request for a moderator to once again move the bulk of the posts in this thread to the FIRST Server Issues thread, so that the Registration 2017 thread can remain about its primary topic. :)

Hallry 06-10-2016 13:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1610640)
Polite request for a moderator to once again move the bulk of the posts in this thread to the FIRST Server Issues thread, so that the Registration 2017 thread can remain about its primary topic. :)

Done. Let's all try to keep posts about Server Issues on their respective thread.

Jay O'Donnell 06-10-2016 14:24

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After dealing with our own TIMs issues for a couple hours, 229 finally got our backup choice of Montreal.

bdaroz 06-10-2016 14:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1610656)
After dealing with our own TIMs issues for a couple hours, 229 finally got our backup choice of Montreal.

Just out of curiosity - and presuming your primary choice was full, what was it?

guniv 06-10-2016 14:51

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I wish FIRST would re-open the API so I can see counts elsewhere and the teams that are signed up.

Jay O'Donnell 06-10-2016 14:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bdaroz (Post 1610665)
Just out of curiosity - and presuming your primary choice was full, what was it?

Long Island was our first choice, which filled up quickly. NYC also filled up quickly so it made our choice easy (we were always going to do TVR/FLR in the second round of registration due to the scheduling this year).

MaGiC_PiKaChU 06-10-2016 15:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay O'Donnell (Post 1610656)
After dealing with our own TIMs issues for a couple hours, 229 finally got our backup choice of Montreal.

Can't wait to compete with you guys! Montreal is always a blast!

Mark McLeod 06-10-2016 15:45

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This is missing most of the week 5 events (if anyone can send or post that week periodically), but of the others...

910 Regional teams, plus whatever the other week 5 events have, have registered and been accepted into an event as of 3:30pm
Thats more than the number of District teams that had registered by 9am this morning (878).

At 0 capacity:
Lake Superior
Los Angeles
Mexico City (never had more than 0 capacity listed)
Minnesota 10000 Lakes
Minnesota North Star
New York City
SBPLI Long Island
Seven Rivers (never had more than 0 capacity listed)
St. Louis

In the single digits:
Montreal - 8
Pittsburgh - 3
Miami Valley - 5
New York Tech Valley - 8
Northern Lights - 3
San Diego - 1
Shenzhen - 4

Bruceb 06-10-2016 15:56

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Mark
Where do you look for that info?

MrForbes 06-10-2016 16:04

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I don't know where Mark finds it, but others here showed me how to find it when I'm in TIMS....on the Dashboard, scroll down and select "Event Registration", then on the page that comes up, select "Find an Event".

I don't know how you find it if you do not have a team account on TIMS.

waialua359 06-10-2016 16:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrForbes (Post 1610693)
I don't know where Mark finds it, but others here showed me how to find it when I'm in TIMS....on the Dashboard, scroll down and select "Event Registration", then on the page that comes up, select "Find an Event".

I don't know how you find it if you do not have a team account on TIMS.

Your screenshot is what I was able to find also, but it doesnt show what the event capacity is? i.e. what it was prior to registering. Also, not sure why the system doesnt show what teams are registered already? Or am I missing something.

waialua359 06-10-2016 16:28

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Some quirks I had on registration.
1. Some people had mentioned issues with logging into the dashboard. I had that same issue for some time now. Its a good thing I saw it before, because I was able to still get in by refreshing. It wasnt as trivial the first time I saw it.
2. Now that we are registered, I tried to print out the invoice to create a PO to pay for it. Well, the system doesnt do it anymore! I called FIRST and they asked for my info so that they could manually send it.:confused:

SenorZ 06-10-2016 16:31

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Wish I could say "That was fun!" but it wasn't.

Logged in no problem. Clicked "Register" for my regional, and then got no response.

Tried reloading, got server error stuff for half and hour. Finally re-logged in and it said I was registered!

Evidently it began the registration process, and picked up after whatever reboot happened.

Liam Fay 06-10-2016 16:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1610687)
This is missing most of the week 5 events (if anyone can send or post that week periodically), but of the others...

910 Regional teams, plus whatever the other week 5 events have, have registered and been accepted into an event as of 3:30pm
Thats more than the number of District teams that had registered by 9am this morning (878).

At 0 capacity:
Lake Superior
Los Angeles
Mexico City (never had more than 0 capacity listed)
Minnesota 10000 Lakes
Minnesota North Star
New York City
SBPLI Long Island
Seven Rivers (never had more than 0 capacity listed)
St. Louis

In the single digits:
Montreal - 8
Pittsburgh - 3
Miami Valley - 5
New York Tech Valley - 8
Northern Lights - 3
San Diego - 1
Shenzhen - 4

Exciting to see San Diego filling up this quickly! We'll see everyone there.

Mark McLeod 06-10-2016 16:39

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 1610691)
Mark
Where do you look for that info?

I'm taking the TIMS info for current regional remaining capacity.
Arens list still gives the event starting capacities.
Adding gives number of Regional teams registered less several week 5 events which I can't see in TIMS.

Golfer4646 06-10-2016 16:47

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bruceb (Post 1610691)
Mark
Where do you look for that info?

The team and event search on the old USFIRST site seems to be working for me.
http://archive.usfirst.org/whats-going-on

It is not ideal but allows for manual look-ups of information.

Mark McLeod 06-10-2016 17:10

Re: Registration 2017
 
1084 Regional teams + 878 District teams = 1962

If there is any action in the District events I can't see that too easily.

At 0 capacity:
Lake Superior
Los Angeles
Mexico City (never had more than 0 capacity listed)
Minnesota 10000 Lakes
Minnesota North Star
New York City
SBPLI Long Island
Seven Rivers (never had more than 0 capacity listed)
St. Louis
San Diego


In the single digits:

Alamo - 6
Arizona West - 9
Montreal - 6
Pittsburgh - 2
Miami Valley - 5
New York Tech Valley - 7
Northern Lights - 1
Shenzhen - 4
Silicon Valley - 6

bdaroz 06-10-2016 17:47

Re: Registration 2017
 
As it's all-but-set-in-stone we're a one-regional team this year it's kinda fun to armchair quarterback this year's registration....

I'm very surprised to see HVR with only 5 teams, and most of those are TVR-local teams. (Even with NYC and LI full.) At the same time TVR is at 14 teams with 7 left open (and a holdback of at most 15 more).

TVR will play host to 3390 from Turkey, and 4083 from South Carolina, so far.

There are a few more TVR-local teams that have not registered yet, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

cpapplefamily 06-10-2016 17:59

Re: Registration 2017
 
I know the Minnesota events only open just over half of the expected spots and waiting lists the remainder.

Kevin Leonard 06-10-2016 18:07

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bdaroz (Post 1610739)
As it's all-but-set-in-stone we're a one-regional team this year it's kinda fun to armchair quarterback this year's registration....

I'm very surprised to see HVR with only 5 teams, and most of those are TVR-local teams. (Even with NYC and LI full.) At the same time TVR is at 14 teams with 7 left open (and a holdback of at most 15 more).

TVR will play host to 3390 from Turkey, and 4083 from South Carolina, so far.

There are a few more TVR-local teams that have not registered yet, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

Yeah these numbers have surprised me. I expected TVR to have tons of space and HVR to have none, but I'm sure most downstate teams that would attend HVR as their second were making sure to get into NYC or LI first, so it makes sense.

5254 managed to get signed up for SBPLI Long Island, although I'm disappointed to see 229 didn't get in. It would have been nice to see any of our 2016 alliance partners at a regional, but oh well.

Jay O'Donnell 06-10-2016 19:38

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin Leonard (Post 1610744)
Yeah these numbers have surprised me. I expected TVR to have tons of space and HVR to have none, but I'm sure most downstate teams that would attend HVR as their second were making sure to get into NYC or LI first, so it makes sense.

5254 managed to get signed up for SBPLI Long Island, although I'm disappointed to see 229 didn't get in. It would have been nice to see any of our 2016 alliance partners at a regional, but oh well.

Trust me we would've loved to join you there.

Mark McLeod 06-10-2016 21:30

Re: Registration 2017
 
I took into account all events (District as well as Regionals) and came up with 2089 teams assigned to specific events as of 9 pm.
This doesn't take into account any waitlisted teams at any of the filled events, of which there are 10.
If FIRST publishes totals those typically include the waitlisted teams, too.

SenorZ 06-10-2016 21:38

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Golfer4646 (Post 1610716)
The team and event search on the old USFIRST site seems to be working for me.
http://archive.usfirst.org/whats-going-on

It is not ideal but allows for manual look-ups of information.

According to that site, Team 511 - The Robodox, are registered for Los Angeles.

Robodox are Team 599. Wonder if there are any other oddities on the reg site.

Christopher149 07-10-2016 00:19

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorZ (Post 1610791)
According to that site, Team 511 - The Robodox, are registered for Los Angeles.

Robodox are Team 599. Wonder if there are any other oddities on the reg site.

Did they split into 2 teams?

EricH 07-10-2016 01:35

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher149 (Post 1610810)
Did they split into 2 teams?

Not to my knowledge. They sure acted like 1 team at the Fall Classic a couple weeks back from what I could see.

Rachel Lim 07-10-2016 01:56

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SenorZ (Post 1610791)
According to that site, Team 511 - The Robodox, are registered for Los Angeles.

Robodox are Team 599. Wonder if there are any other oddities on the reg site.

This appears to be fixed: 599 is now registered for Ventura, and I don't see 511 anywhere.



And quick summary of registered teams at CA regionals, as of 10:50pm using the old site (registered/total (open)):
San Diego: 50/50 (0)
Central Valley: 5/38 (33)
Ventura: 16/32 (16)
San Francisco: 12/32 (20)
Sacramento: 24/50 (26)
Los Angeles: 50/50 (0)
Silicon Valley: 50/50 (0)
Orange County: 26/38 (12)

Open spots (norcal): 79
Open spots (socal): 28
Total open spots: 107

Filled spots (norcal): 91
Filled spots (socal): 142
Total filled spots: 233

Total spots (norcal): 170
Total spots (socal): 170
Total spots: 340

Number of CA teams in 2016: 258

Mark McLeod 07-10-2016 08:40

Re: Registration 2017
 
2143 teams are listed at events

At 0 capacity:

Lake Superior
Los Angeles
Mexico City (never had more than 0 capacity listed)
Minnesota 10000 Lakes
Minnesota North Star
New York City
SBPLI Long Island
Seven Rivers (never had more than 0 capacity listed)
St. Louis
San Diego
Silicon Valley
ONT Waterloo
NE Granite State
NE WPI


In the single digits:

Alamo - 1
Arizona West - 7
Greater Kansas City - 7
Montreal - 3
Pittsburgh - 1
Miami Valley - 5
New York Tech Valley - 7
Northern Lights - 1
Shenzhen - 4
ONT Ryerson Univ. - 6
NC Raleigh - 9
NC Greensboro - 7
MAR Mt. Olive - 6
MAR Hatboro-Horsham - 1
FIM Traverse City - 4
FIM Midland - 5
FIM Kettering #1 - 4 (#2 didn't seem to be open as a home event)
CHS Greater DC - 5

Alpha Beta 07-10-2016 09:30

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1610835)

In the single digits:

...

Greater Kansas City down to 7 slots left before we get to the waitlist.

43 of 50 open slots already taken.
  • Looking forward to seeing our friends from 624.
  • Hoping a slot sticks around for 1806 to play in their home regional. Good luck in Minnesota.
  • Noticed that 1710 appears to not be playing in KC for the 2nd year in a row. (Not their normal pattern) Always a Chairman's contender wherever they go.
  • 1939 venturing out to the St. Louis side of the state.

smistthegreat 07-10-2016 13:54

Re: Registration 2017
 
API appears to be working again.

Hallry 07-10-2016 17:07

Re: Registration 2017
 
Am I crazy or did the Laguna Regional switch from Week 1 to Week 4?

Brian Maher 07-10-2016 19:19

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hallry (Post 1610932)
Am I crazy or did the Laguna Regional switch from Week 1 to Week 4?

I'm not saying you aren't crazy but that's correct.

slickvic2252 07-10-2016 23:08

Re: Registration 2017
 
how do you see what teams are registered for what event?

alectronic 07-10-2016 23:40

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slickvic2252 (Post 1610962)
how do you see what teams are registered for what event?


frc-events.firstinspires.org
is one way

cadandcookies 08-10-2016 00:33

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by alectronic (Post 1610963)

Wow, that is actually pretty good. Something to actually like about the new FIRST website.

Brian Maher 08-10-2016 00:36

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by slickvic2252 (Post 1610962)
how do you see what teams are registered for what event?

Quote:

Originally Posted by alectronic (Post 1610963)

Here are a few more.

Mark McLeod 10-10-2016 09:38

Re: Registration 2017
 
1 Attachment(s)
Here's a plot of the first few days of registration in comparison to previous years.
This year is a different shape because of the split District/Regional registration starts, and the lack of dependable total team counts for the first 36 hours of Regional registration.

It's looking like a pretty good year for FRC teams overall, 2017 early registration was up ~25% over 2016 numbers.
District team starting registration alone was better than all 2012 starting registration (Districts + Regionals).

Jon Stratis 10-10-2016 09:47

Re: Registration 2017
 
I always love seeing those graphs, Mark... But with registration starting 2 weeks later this year because of the server issues, should we still show them all starting at the same time? My thinking is that the extra two weeks meant more teams had started up for the fall, figured out their finances, gotten grants, etc than we normally have on day 1, so it may not be a fair comparison to previous years. And looking forward to next year, it may make next year's start up look slow for the first couple of weeks.

Mark McLeod 10-10-2016 10:06

Re: Registration 2017
 
A valid point. Things are really skewed this year.

So using actual dates 2017 is behind 2016 by about 7% as of this morning 9am.
  • Oct 10, 2016 = 2507
  • Oct 10, 2017 = 2327

P.S.
My rookie team from last year still isn't registered because replacing the second coach is taking a long time.
And our local event is full...and I mean completely full...

Richard Wallace 10-10-2016 10:07

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1611147)
I always love seeing those graphs, Mark... But with registration starting 2 weeks later this year because of the server issues, should we still show them all starting at the same time? My thinking is that the extra two weeks meant more teams had started up for the fall, figured out their finances, gotten grants, etc than we normally have on day 1, so it may not be a fair comparison to previous years. ....

Jon's point is valid, of course. However, I expect it can be addressed by annotation of the graph, as Mark has done previously, to indicate how key dates shift year-to-year.

Mark McLeod 10-10-2016 10:43

Re: Registration 2017
 
Events that are on waitlist status:

Northern Lights Regional
Lake Superior Regional
San Diego Regional
St. Louis Regional
Greater Pittsburgh Regional
Los Angeles Regional
Silicon Valley Regional
SBPLI Long Island Regional
Minnesota North Star Regional
Minnesota 10000 Lakes Regional
Alamo Regional
New York City Regional
Seven Rivers Regional
Mexico City Regional
NE District - Granite State Event
NE District - WPI Event
ONT District - University of Waterloo Event


Single digit events:
1 - Shenzhen Regional
1 - Orlando Regional
1 - FIM District - Kettering University Event #1
1 - MAR District - Hatboro-Horsham Event
2 - Miami Valley Regional
3 - Festival de Robotique - Montreal Regional
3 - FIM District - Traverse City Event
4 - Greater Kansas City Regional
4 - Arizona West Regional
4 - CHS District - Greater DC Event
4 - FIM District - Midland Event
4 - MAR District - Mount Olive Event
5 - New York Tech Valley Regional
6 - NC District - Greensboro Event
6 - ONT District - Ryerson University Event
8 - FIM District - West Michigan Event
8 - PNW District - Glacier Peak Event
8 - PNW District - Lake Oswego Event
9 - NC District - Raleigh Event

Mark McLeod 10-10-2016 12:34

Re: Registration 2017
 
16 countries
Here are where the event registered teams are from:

261 ----- MI
220 ----- CA
129 ----- Canada-ON
125 ----- NY
122 ----- MN
88 ----- TX
85 ----- WA
68 ----- NJ
65 ----- VA
61 ----- PA
60 ----- MA
54 ----- MO
54 ----- OH
53 ----- FL
51 ----- GA
49 ----- IL
48 ----- NC
47 ----- WI
47 ----- China
46 ----- CT
46 ----- IN
42 ----- OK
40 ----- AZ
35 ----- OR
35 ----- Canada-QC
33 ----- MD
30 ----- SC
26 ----- NH
25 ----- ME
24 ----- Turkey
22 ----- TN
21 ----- CO
18 ----- IA
18 ----- KS
18 ----- Australia
16 ----- LA
15 ----- HI
14 ----- Mexico
11 ----- UT
9 ----- AR
8 ----- AL
8 ----- ID
8 ----- KY
8 ----- NV
8 ----- Canada-AB
7 ----- DC
6 ----- Canada-BC
5 ----- MS
5 ----- RI
5 ----- Brazil
4 ----- VT
3 ----- DE
3 ----- WV
2 ----- ND
2 ----- NE
2 ----- NM
2 ----- WY
2 ----- Chile
2 ----- Netherlands
2 ----- United Kingdom
1 ----- AK
1 ----- MT
1 ----- SD
1 ----- Canada-SK
1 ----- Colombia
1 ----- France
1 ----- Germany
1 ----- Singapore
1 ----- Switzerland
1 ----- Taiwan

lynca 10-10-2016 15:27

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1611171)
47 ----- China
24 ----- Turkey
18 ----- Australia
14 ----- Mexico
5 ----- Brazil
2 ----- Chile
2 ----- Netherlands
2 ----- United Kingdom
1 ----- Colombia
1 ----- France
1 ----- Germany
1 ----- Singapore
1 ----- Switzerland
1 ----- Taiwan

Awesome list Mark ! China is growing fast !
Shenzen regional is roughly 50% rookies.

vhcook 10-10-2016 16:06

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1611202)
Awesome list Mark ! China is growing fast !
Shenzen regional is roughly 50% rookies.

Lots of growth in Turkey too.

Richard Wallace 10-10-2016 16:31

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by lynca (Post 1611202)
Awesome list Mark ! China is growing fast !
Shenzen regional is roughly 50% rookies.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vhcook (Post 1611206)
Lots of growth in Turkey too.

Quebec is growing also. I wonder how many years until they go District?

Which will be the first District with a main language other than English?

Bluman56 10-10-2016 16:34

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1611207)
Quebec is growing also. I wonder how many years until they go District?

Which will be the first District with a main language other than English?

Israel?

smistthegreat 10-10-2016 16:54

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1611146)
Here's a plot of the first few days of registration in comparison to previous years.
This year is a different shape because of the split District/Regional registration starts, and the lack of dependable total team counts for the first 36 hours of Regional registration.

It's looking like a pretty good year for FRC teams overall, 2017 early registration was up ~25% over 2016 numbers.
District team starting registration alone was better than all 2012 starting registration (Districts + Regionals).

Mark, where do you get your data for registration over time from past years? I've only been able to find yearly totals.

Jon Stratis 10-10-2016 16:56

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smistthegreat (Post 1611212)
Mark, where do you get your data for registration over time from past years? I've only been able to find yearly totals.

He gets it from "Rookie year: 2002". I believe he's been actively collecting this data and saving it locally, not relying on an outside resource (Like FIRST) to provide the historical information.

Caleb Sykes 10-10-2016 16:59

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1611207)
Quebec is growing also. I wonder how many years until they go District?

Which will be the first District with a main language other than English?

Spanish might be the main language in California before they become a district. ;)

EricH 10-10-2016 17:00

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bluman56 (Post 1611208)
Israel?

I think we have a winner. Israel's official languages are Hebrew and Arabic, with Hebrew as the primary.

Richard Wallace 10-10-2016 17:20

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by EricH (Post 1611215)
I think we have a winner. Israel's official languages are Hebrew and Arabic, with Hebrew as the primary.

Doh!

:o


I forgot Israel has already taken the plunge. Didn't see anything here about it for the last month or so, and Mark's list doesn't have Israel (yet) due to registration timing.

Mark McLeod 10-10-2016 18:54

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by smistthegreat (Post 1611212)
Mark, where do you get your data for registration over time from past years? I've only been able to find yearly totals.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1611213)
He gets it from "Rookie year: 2002". I believe he's been actively collecting this data and saving it locally, not relying on an outside resource (Like FIRST) to provide the historical information.

Yea, I was saving and comparing records for a few years before I found out others might be interested, too.
http://www.team358.org/files/frc_records/index.php

Mark McLeod 11-10-2016 12:16

Re: Registration 2017
 
1 Attachment(s)
2400 teams are registered
Here's a plot of the portion of FRC comprised of non-US based teams over the past five seasons.

cgmv123 11-10-2016 15:22

Re: Registration 2017
 
Second Event Registration for MI and PNW teams will open 1 hour early.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FIRST E-mail
The second District Event registration timeline will be as follows on Thursday, 10/13:

11:00 am-11:45 am Eastern Time: Second District Event registration will open for MI and PNW teams only. Events for all other District Teams will not be visible during this time.
11:45 am- 12:00 pm (noon) Eastern Time: MI and PNW registration closes temporarily, but District Events for all District Teams become visible in the system once again.
12:00 pm (noon) Eastern Time: All District Teams can register for their second District Events.
Regional Teams will be able to register for their second Regional Events on Thursday, 10/20 at 12:00 pm (noon) Eastern Time.


MaGiC_PiKaChU 12-10-2016 10:50

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Wallace (Post 1611207)
Quebec is growing also. I wonder how many years until they go District?

Which will be the first District with a main language other than English?

How many years before we get a 2nd regional? seriously we are only attending one this year because Ontario is no longer an option :(

Kevin Leonard 12-10-2016 11:57

Re: Registration 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by MaGiC_PiKaChU (Post 1611462)
How many years before we get a 2nd regional? seriously we are only attending one this year because Ontario is no longer an option :(

That stinks! I assumed 3360 would try to make the trip down to the Tech Valley Regional with 3990 at least.

When NE went districts, that's when the Tech Valley Regional started, as we could no longer go into New England from the Albany area. It's unfortunate that didn't happen with Montreal.

Mark McLeod 12-10-2016 22:22

Re: Registration 2017
 
2468 = today's team count

Including:
  • 13 resurrected veteran teams (the longest missing last played 6 years ago)
  • 18 new "veteran" teams
  • 156 rookie teams

27% of last season's teams (851) have not been heard from yet (not unusual).


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