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Knufire 21-10-2016 10:12

[FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
Posted on the FRC Blog, 10/21/16: http://www.firstinspires.org/robotic...survey-results

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Stop Build Day Survey Results
Written by Frank Merrick.

In September, as we announced here, we surveyed our community on their thoughts about Stop Build Day. The intent was to gather data in support of our further discussions on this topic. And as we had clarified before, other than switching to a worldwide, simultaneous stop build time, there are no Stop Build Day changes for the 2017 season. Any significant changes we would make would be for 2018 or later, as we want to give this topic very careful consideration, and announce changes (if there will be any) long before the season starts so teams can make plans.

We are presenting these results without editorial comment. As we are in the middle of season prep right now and have a very busy season right on the horizon, we are not likely to be able to turn our attention back to this matter in the short term.

You can see the very long and detailed report here. You will see that our Research and Evaluation team sliced and diced the responses in many different ways. If the thought of reading through 16 pages of information with hundreds of numbers makes your head spin, here is a brief summary:
  • We had 9,286 responses total, though of course not all respondents made it to the end of the survey or answered every single question.

  • Those responses were from 2,196 unique teams.

  • Graph of full results to the question about what would be best for the FIRST Robotics Competition overall (7,507 responses):



  • Graph of full results to the question about what would be best for ensuring equity and inclusion of students and schools in the FIRST Robotics Competition program (7,470 responses):



  • The two largest groups of respondents were Mentors, at 50.8% of respondents, and Students, at 36.7% of respondents.

  • Graph of results of 'best for program overall' question, Mentors only (4,130 responses):



  • Graph of results of 'best for program overall' question, Students only (2,554 responses):


Finally, the 'Averaging Responses by Team' data in the detailed report probably needs a bit of explanation. We wanted to see what the results would be like if every team that responded essentially got one 'vote', and that vote was the average of all the individual responses from that one team. You can compare this to the Senate in the United States, in which every state gets two votes, regardless of state population. As this process naturally resulted in many fractional votes, we wanted to break the results up more finely, as rounding the results to the nearest whole number could have given an inaccurate impression of the underlying information.

I hope you find this data interesting. As I say above, we won't be spending much time on this topic in the short term, as we have an awesome FIRST STEAMWORKS season to get ready for!

Frank

mlantry 21-10-2016 10:13

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
Is Hallry alive?

Jon K. 21-10-2016 10:21

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
I would be interested in seeing the results of the survey of time in the program vs the keep vs stop data similar to how they did team age vs the data. I wonder if it is still as evenly distributed.

tickspe15 21-10-2016 10:25

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
This survey was clearly rigged.

It'd be interesting to see how metrics such as OPR or BBQ influenced survey responses.

StAxis 21-10-2016 10:26

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
The results seem to lean toward keeping a stop build day, but I would be curious to see the results of each survey question. Mind you, many of the questions did seem to be biased towards removing it.

Results aside, that looks like a very good turnout of responses!

marshall 21-10-2016 10:28

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
Well... the results are definitely interesting.

I'm not a statistics wizard by any measurement so I'll leave others to nitpick the results. I would love to see the data broken down by team locations as well as by team age though.

I still have my opinion that Stop Build Day should disappear like so many outdated things with FRC but for now it appears as though I'm in the minority. :cool:

EDIT: Linked report has some of the data I wanted actually. I skimmed it and missed it on first pass.

Steven Smith 21-10-2016 10:30

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
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Originally Posted by Jon K. (Post 1612835)
I would be interested in seeing the results of the survey of time in the program vs the keep vs stop data similar to how they did team age vs the data. I wonder if it is still as evenly distributed.

In the linked report they broke the data into a few bins based on team age. It didn't seem to have a dramatic impact on the dataset to my eye.

SenorZ 21-10-2016 10:33

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
Keeping or eliminating "stop" build day was a bit simplistic.

There should have been multiple choices, ranked by preference:
  • Keep things as they are
  • Continue Kickoff in January but eliminate SBD
  • Move Kickoff to an earlier date and keep SBD in February (longer season with a hard stop)
  • Pull a VEX, and have months to work, including all the way to the event.
...etc.

But just dealing with this one questions is sure to cause them huge headaches.

marshall 21-10-2016 10:37

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
This is at the top of the report:

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61.5% of all respondents said their team builds an additional robot or robots, in addition to the robot that gets bagged. 50.2% of teams said their team builds an additional robot or robots, in addition to the robot that gets bagged.
So a majority of responding teams (2,196) build more than one robot...

Mark McLeod 21-10-2016 10:39

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
I would call it half, not a majority.
4 teams out of 2196 isn't statistically significant.

PayneTrain 21-10-2016 10:41

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
You can say that the plurality-winning opinion is keeping sbd, but you will also have to point out that a supermajority of respondents think there should be some kind of change to the existing rules.

notmattlythgoe 21-10-2016 10:51

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
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Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1612845)
You can say that the plurality-winning opinion is keeping sbd, but you will also have to point out that a supermajority of respondents think there should be some kind of change to the existing rules.


jman4747 21-10-2016 10:54

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
My take is most people don't want it to change much or at all (4 & 5 = 52.6%) Most people however want it to change at least a little (1-4 = 65.9%).




Edit: ugh...

marshall 21-10-2016 10:57

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
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Originally Posted by Mark McLeod (Post 1612843)
I would call it half, not a majority.
4 teams out of 2196 isn't statistically significant.

Fair point. It's still a surprising number to me. I'm glad they asked the question and we know the results.

headlight 21-10-2016 11:04

Re: [FRC Blog] Stop Build Day Survey Results
 
If I'm reading this correctly, there is a somewhat significant portion of respondents in most categories who think that stopping bag day would be "best for ensuring equity and inclusion of students and schools in the FIRST
Robotics Competition program", but for some reason don't think that it would be "Best for the FIRST Robotics Competition program".

Is the equality and inclusion of students and schools undervalued or is there some other priority?


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