The Best Team(s) to Never Win an Official Event
 

So I made this thread, four years ago and clicking through it many of the teams (Including my own choices) have won events since then.

So I figured I would start a new discussion but add some new rules as well as keep the old ones:
1. You must compete with the team fairly regularly
2. The team must have competed in 4 straight FRC seasons aka since 2013
3. Teams must already be signed up to compete in the 2017 season
4. They can not have won any official event
5. An official event is one that provides a FIRST Blue Banner (Regional, Distict, District Championship, Division, Subdivision, and Championship)
6. They can not be your team or teams.

While not a requirement I also would like everyone to list why they think they are good, and what has kept them from getting the coveted winner title.
Bad Luck? Mechanical Inconsistencies? Scouting Issues?

So from Florida I am going to say 3556 GET SMART and 3653 BOTCATS.

3556 was the easy one for me because they are the team that appears to be on their way to being the next big player in Florida FRC. In their 6 years and 8 regionals they have only missed elims once. And those 7 elims appearances include two finalist appearances in 2012 and 2016. 3556 to me is always just one slightly different decision, or one bit of luck going a different way from getting that blue banner and I have faith they are just about to finally have everything come together.

3653 has two finalists appearances (2012 and 2015) over there 6 years, same as 3556, but are not as consistent as GET SMART (Missing 5 elims out of 11 regionals). But after looking at teams who hadn't won I noticed that 3653 always improves in between their events and does better, hence a late bloomer. 3653 needs to find consistency earlier in the season to get their win, because with their proven ability to improve I know they are capable of producing a robot to win earlier.

Honorable Mentions:
1523
2797
4013

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I'm so happy that my team no longer qualifies for this. :)

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I'm shocked 4536 hasn't won an official event yet. They have been one of the top teams at 10k for the last 3 years.

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This should be a rule for all of these types of threads.

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5254 Hype somehow hasn't won an event yet.
They've been to IRI twice in their three years of existence without winning an official event.
That shows you how impressive they actually are.

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TECHNICALLY, 5254 is ineligible by James' criteria. They were a rookie in 2014, he lists 4 years of FRC experience ('since 2013') as a requirement.

And even then, Kevin likes to take out a year to gauge their performance.

Let's give them a few years ;)

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461 still hasn't won an event.
They've been an event finalist 6 times including one division finals appearance. They also have won 5 engineering inspiration awards and two chairmans in their 17 seasons. Hopefully their finals curse ends soon, preferably with 1747 :)

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First team that comes to mind for me is 4536 The Minutebots. They've been Finalists at the 10,000 lakes regional 3 years in a row (2014, 2015, 2016) and got the wildcard each time. They recently won their first unofficial event, but they've yet to win their first blue banner. 4536 has been unlucky due to the fact that the 10,000 lakes regional is dominated by the usual powerhouses (525, 2052, 2502), but I still find it impressive they make a name for themselves every year against the powerhouses facing them in the finals.

Other notable MN mentions: 2705, 2846, 2987. I'm probably overlooking a couple from MN.

Team 706 also comes to mind. They've been competing from 2001 - 2016, and they've been Finalists 6 times. It's been a HUGE mixture of unluckyness. The 1 loss that to stick out to me is when they lost against 3018 and 2052 at Lake Superior in 2014. 706 missed 2 or 3 shots and wasted a lot of time during the match in Finals 2 (they had also won Finals 1) and if they had made any one of those shots, they would have won their first blue banner.

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I know so many teams that have won once WAYYYY back in time (in or around 2002), but of the teams that haven't won any, I have to say 1111. They've been to the finals three times, won a Chairman's award, and won three EI awards, but haven't been able to quite get over that last hurdle.

I expect that to change in the near future.

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Consider 1885.

They have only missed Championship once since their rookie year in 2006.

They have earned 7 blue banners since 2012, but none of them happen to say "Winner".

Over 33 lifetime events, they have been eliminated 4 times in the finals, 4 times in the semifinals, and 10 times in the quarterfinals.

Nobody can beat these stats.

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I'm a big fan of 3250.

1671 is kind of an outlier here, as they've won (and earned) a world championship, but they have not won a regional.

3476 was an outlier for a while as well, before the OC regional this year they had two division wins at champs, but no official event wins.

I think both 3250 and 1671 will make it happy pretty soon.

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I agree 461 has to be hands down the best team to have never won an event.

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Not completely correct, we won SDR is 2012.

Regional Wins- SD 2012, OCR 2016
Division Wins- Newton 2013, Tesla 2015, and Newton 2016

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I think it's shocking how 1741 hasn't won any regionals/districs... They have been regional finalists three times that I know of (BMR 2006, BMR 2013, Chesapeake 2014), they scarcely miss eliminations (if ever), and they have made division elims. three times (SF 2012, SF 2013, QF 2015).

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+1 on this.

I'll add that Steve Florence is among the greatest of FIRST's unsung heroes. That he does not (yet) have a WFFA is even more incredible than the team's hard luck breaking through for a Winner's blue banner.

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I honestly thought of them and dismissed them immediately for being too good to have not won an event. This actually blows my mind.

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Extremely biased here, due to my involvement with the team for six years, but I'm convinced it's 2791. And I'm not technically on the team right now so this post is OK :P

Here's a complete list of the close calls 2791 has had in their history:

BAE 2012: Second pick of the 7th alliance with 1519 and 885. Knocked out the 2nd and 3rd alliances on the way to the finals, won Finals 1... and died suddenly during Finals 2. Due to some confusion the alliance was not permitted a backup robot and they lost Finals 3 2v1.

CT 2012: Second pick of the #1 seed with 2168 and 118. 2168 was the best team to not win a regional that year, and 118 was an Einstein caliber robot. After cruising through the quarters, 118 encountered the same bug that disabled them on Einstein. Still, the alliance would have won Semifinal 2, except for the fact that after the buzzer, a robot rolled off the opponent's bridge, and the remaining robot perfectly balanced it. Blown out in Semis 3 and that was that.

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WPI 2013: 2791 ended up as the #1 seed of this event, picking the highest scoring robot and only floor loader of the event in team 20. In the quarterfinals, an arm gear broke, removing their ability to hang. After a frantic fix, the robot was still functional for semis and finals, scoring the highest points of the event until Finals 2, when 2168 discovered that if you hit 2791 just right, their arm now had enough slop in it with the repair to jostle their shooter into a jammed state. In Finals 3, a full court feeding strategy was attempted to mitigate this, which almost worked. Any of three separate events would have won the event - 2791's shooter working as they were hit into the pyramid by 2168 (changes a foul into a tech); 3182 not hanging in the center front of the pyramid on top of a disk (and us remembering the Q&A that clarified this is a legal hang); 20 slidng off the very edge of the pyramid at the zero second mark. This was the most painful close call I'd been a part of.

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FLR 2014: Less close than some of those above, but the #4 seed 341 declined the #2 seed to pick us and 4930. In the semi-finals, we ended up losing by a single missed truss shot in match 1. We were more easily beaten in match 2. Not particularly close but a strong performance.

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2015 never happened

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TVR 2016: 2791 is the first pick of the 3rd alliance, after some issues with the drivetrain and collector. Set some high scores quickly in the quarters, but were bested in the semis by 3 close matches after a substitution on the other alliance.

FLR 2016: 2791 is much improved, doing a solo capture at least once in quals. 2791 is the first overall pick of the event, by 5254. The second pick is a sleeper who was high performing at their last event but struggled early at FLR. After storming through the quarters, a combination of bad autonomous luck and shutdown defense by future Einstein finalist 1405 kept 2791 from even qualifying for Championship.

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So depending on how generous you're being, that's at least 3 events where a small change in circumstances would result in 2791 having won an event. And with the exception of 2015 (my bad), they have gotten more competitive every year since 2011, always running into a combination of mistakes, circumstances, and bad luck. I think they're overdue.

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I don't feel I can be a good judge of PWN teams yet, but in Texas two teams come to mind.

2881 Lady Cans - 2 Engineering Inspiration awards and 2 Judges awards

3103 Iron Plaid - 4 Engineering Inspiration awards, 2 Finalists, and 1 WFA.

Look out for them when Texas becomes a district.

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Seeing as nobody has done NE, I would throw in my suggestion for Team 166, Chop Shop. While they have two Chairman's Award wins in their history, they have never won an official event but have been steadily improving year after year - this year they were Finalists at Pine Tree and Battlecry, as the captains at both events. Not only this, they were also their division's #1 overall pick at Championship.

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Team 2090 from Hawaii.
Almost always a Regional Finalist. That team is usually a top 3-5 team selection. Its too bad their school doesnt allow them to do more than 1 regional, and champs if they were to qualify. They started FLL in the State of Hawaii and their program and facilities are top notch!
**Barack Obama's alma mater and was in Sports Illustrated several years ago as the #1 High School Overall Sports program in the USA.

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A more local example to SoCal is 4201. They always put on a good show, but have not won a regional yet.

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For a number of years (2006-2009) they would always make Finals only to lose out on the banner. Based on the stories I've heard over the years 2004 should have been an Einstein appearance in that their failure to advance was due to bad luck, not bad performance per se.

I'd say 1741 is also up there, at least in the Midwest (and for sure in Indiana). IMHO thier best shot was 2013, but that was also a good year for two other teams, 868 and 234, which kept them from the win at both of their regional appearances. That's what's nice about districts; it gives more opportunities for teams to win events (less of a "shadow" effect).

This is very true. Me saying this is a bit biased as I know Flo (and work with him at a lot of Indiana events) though.

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+1 I am also astonished that this is true.

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Team 708 has really stepped up their on-the-field game over the past few years, and is the best non-winner in MAR that I can think of (now that 1089 has a division banner).
https://www.thebluealliance.com/team/708/history

1x Regional finals (2009)
2x District event finals (2012, 2016)
1x Sub-division finals (2016)
2x District Chairman's Awards (2016, 2016)
1x MAR Championship Chairman's Award (2015)
FeelsBadMan

3974 and 4954 are some (relatively) younger MAR teams that are still looking for their first wins.

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From the UP of Michigan: probably have to go with 1596. One time regional finalist, a smattering of design awards, and a couple trips to States. As to why they haven't won, some of it is probably the small number of teams and events in the UP, and the show's been stolen by downstate teams and the likes of 2586, 3602, and 4391.

In a different vein, I think 2246 The Army of Sum must be the best at winning the Imagery Award (8 times) without having won an event.

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Beat me to it..

Top teams without an event win by average MAR points:

3974 118.6 (3 time finalist)
484 109.2 (4 time finalist)
708 103.2 (4 time finalist)
1647 101.2 (3 time finalist)
2180 99.6 (2 time finalist)
1712 98.2 (1 time finalist)

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The best team in this category in Colorado has to be Team 1440, The Kraken. During 20 events they have been eliminated in the Finals 3 times, Semi-Finals 3 times, and Quarter-Finals 5 times. They have picked their own alliance 4 times and have won 10 awards.

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I'll try the Midwest Regional. It's not as interesting as some of the previous mentions...

2704 - Roaring Robotics from Batavia, Illinois (Home of Fermi Lab). They have accomplished alot, including Engineering Inspiration and four Safety Awards in seven years. They're also just a pleasure to compete with in general.

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Correction: Flo won a Woodie Flowers Award in 2006 at the Buckeye Regional in Cleveland.

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Aha! Thank you for the research on that. Now TBA should update the 461 history page.

IIRC, some scorekeepers have not always entered team affiliations for WFFA. And even when they do, TBA sometimes doesn't pick them up. For example, Frank Dressel got the 2006 St. Louis Regional WFFA and the scorekeeper recorded his team number, but it doesn't show up on 931's TBA history page.

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Some that come to mind from Tennessee.

2393
In many ways, TNFIRST is concentrated most strongly in Knoxville. 2393 is one of the backbones of FRC in Knoxville. They share a build space with 3824 and 5571, they're a constant source of information and support to other teams, and they're some of the kindest people in FRC. Since 2013, they've earned the Creativity Award, the Innovation in Control Award, the Excellence in Engineering Award, and the Entrepreneurship Award three times. They were Finalists at SMR in 2013, the #1 seed at SMR in 2014, and have always been a team to watch out for at SMR.
(Their 2014 bot is also one of my favorite robots in FRC that I've gotten to see in action. The thing was brilliant.)


3140
This team is also one of the core teams promoting FRC in Knoxville, and they work very hard to keep raising the level of competitive play at SMR. They were quarter-finalists at SMR in 2014. In 2015, they were semi-finalists at the Georgia Southern Classic Regional and SMR, after seeding #2 at SMR. In 2016, they were semi-finalists after seeding #6 at the Arkansas Rock City Regional. At SMR, they were knocked out in the quarter-finals by the alliance that went on to win the event.

5571 isn't old enough to be considered for this thread yet, but the fact that they went unpicked for Eliminations this year is still a crime.

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For Colorado, I'd say 4499, 1410 or 1339. All build steady robots and have consistently appeared in the playoffs, but none have won a regional yet.

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From Kansas City, I believe 1939- The Kuhnigits have never won a regional. They were Regional Finalists in 2010, 2011 & 2013, won multiple Chairman's and Engineering Inspiration awards, and always build asthetically pleasing robots as evidenced by their many, many Imagery Awards.

It is always a pleasure to be on an alliance with 1939.

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For South Carolina, never is a long time--teams that have played at that high a level with any consistency have hung a banner, and several that don't play at that level have backed into one at some point.

However, one team that seems chronically slept-on is 1876. Let's lay out the resume:

2016: 19-7, Palmetto 8 seed (QF), Orlando 7 seed (SF)
2015: Palmetto 2 seed (SF), Orlando 16 seed (QF)
2014: Palmetto 2 seed (QF), Orlando 32 seed (QF)
2013: Palmetto 30 seed (no elims)
2012: Palmetto 7 seed (SF)

Despite numbers that would be the envy of many a team, their trophy cabinet contains exactly two trophies going back to their 2006 inception: the 2006 Palmetto Regional Highest Rookie Seed, and the 2016 Orlando Regional Industrial Design Award.

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3476 won San Diego in 2012 as first overall pick!

Definitely agree on 3250 and 1671. My local mentions would have to be 4201 and 3495. Both Vitruvian and Mindcraft have produced robots in the top 8 of their regional events.

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Billfred, You beat me to it. I definitely agree with that pick.

Beachbotics have brought a super competitive game over the last several years especially considering they had the #3 and #1 OPR at their two events this year.

David

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In the NYC area, I would probably say 333. For the past couple years especially they've built solid robots. Obviously I haven't been around for as long as them, but for a team as old as theirs, I would have expected them to win already (granted the previous team I was on had their first regional win in 2014 during their 15th year of existence).

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1876 is coming to Smoky Mountains Regional for the first time in 2017. Maybe this'll break their streak, and they'll take home a win.

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I'll second that. But for some reason I thought 4499 had won a regional. I guess that shows what I "know" about my friends across town.:p

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706. Since 2013, they have made the finals in 5/8 regional events (each time as alliance captain or 1st pick). The three times they did not make it to the finals, they still made it to eliminations. They also made eliminations at the championship the one time they attended.

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They have pretty solid middle of the top 8 seed robots at the regional they go to each season, but 1102 still hasn't won an event.

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I'm astonished that 333, 461, 706, and 4499 haven't yet won events. 333 was killer this year, I've seen 461 at multiple IRI's, and 4499 was pretty dope in the 2015 Carson Division.

2791 deserves not only to win a banner, but more than anything to get to attend a championship event. They've been so close so many times, in positions that other teams might win or get a wildcard, but some combination of luck and other teams overperforming has shut them down repeatedly.

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I'd forgotten about 1102 not having a regional win (though they do have a blue banner from winning Palmetto RCA in 2007):

2016: Palmetto 18th seed (QF)
2015: Palmetto 4 seed (SF)
2014: Peachtree 3 seed (QF)
2013: Palmetto 8 seed (QF)
2012: Palmetto 9 seed (SF)

The quality is certainly there, though 1876's performances in Orlando (whose relative depth varies over the years, but is generally ahead of Palmetto or Peachtree) give them a leg up in quality (to the extent performing well but not winning is quality) and quantity for me.

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I'll throw 599 in from the L.A. area. They've been close a couple of times--'06 saw them knocked out of the elims in semis and in finals under "tough call" conditions, and they've been close a couple of times since then (and a couple of times before then)--but they have yet to capture that elusive first blue banner (not counting a WFFA from before those were blue banners). And they're pretty consistently in the playoffs.

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No real presense on here, but I have to call out my Alma Mater, 1102 M'Aiken Magic. Financial reasons (and a focus on their incredible FTC teams) keeps them down to one Regional per year, but from 2012 - 2015 they never seeded outside of the top 8, topping out at 4th and 3rd recently. As to what is keeping them from winning . . . I'm not sure. They haven't been able to seed 1st and it often appears that their strategy is to do so, maybe they don't often compliment other robots in the game.

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A phenomenal team I met in 2016- Team 4481, the Rembrandts. They had some incredible and ambitious machines in 2015 and 2016, but somehow came up short, losing in the finals at Virginia 2015 and being on the 8th seeded alliance at Tech Valley 2016 against 359.

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In my opinion, 1189 is a team who is going to get their first win very soon. 3x Finalist and MSC SF in 2015, 1 SF in 2016, 2x SF in 2014, Finalist and SF in 2013.

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With your four RCAs and 2 finalist appearances I think 159 definitely belongs on the Colorado list as well.

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All this thread does for me is reinforce how insane 2056's streak was... so many great teams that haven't quite gotten over the hump, while 2056 goes almost 10 years without losing.

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Yeah. Also when WFA's and WFFA's change teams it seems a bit gets lost in the move. Example: I knew Allison Phelps née Babcock was a mentor on my old team, 1747 in 2007. I also knew at some point she attained WFFA status. However, I had always assumed said award wasn't given to her outside of her time on 1747, as the award was never mentioned in the three years I was on the team. However, as it turns out, she DID win during the 2007 year (St. Louis Regional), mainly by saving my team from the brink. The only places this information exists is on the Mobius (which I discovered earlier this year) and an obscure CD thread which contains the submission essay.

While WFFA/WFA is awarded to people, not teams, I do think that the team history should be denoted. One would think that such things would be common knowledge in a region, let alone within said team or among people who work with the WFFA in question at several events every year.

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Gonna plug in 456 here. They're a phenomenal team. They have some of the best volunteers and are always willing to help someone out. We have competed with them several times over the last few years.

They've been finalists plenty of times, and have won 2 off-season events, but sadly have no official wins. We got close with them in 2015 at Bayou, but fell short by 2 points.

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Her win is saved elsewhere too. As well as her Volunteer of the Year award in 2015 w/team 1024.

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Based on a strong history I'm going to say 2791. Up until very recently my answer would have been 1323.

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Texas Teams:

1255 - Blarglefish
2158 - ausTIN CANs
2582 - PantherBots
2881 - Lady Cans
3005 - RoboChargers
3103 - Iron Plaid
3802 - RoboPOP
3847 - Spectrum
3997 - Screaming Chickens

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And on top of that they have two WFFA's. I don't know what witch they upset but man are they cursed.

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Within the North Carolina District:

3196 has yet to receive a blue banner, but they won Rookie All Star in 2010, and had a Dean's List Finalist in 2012. They won the Gracious Professionalism Award in 2016, and their robots aren't bad at all. Definitely deserving of a win IMO.

As honorable mentions, I would throw in 4767 and 3215 as "sleeper teams". With both making eliminations in 2016, they seem to be improving, especially since the district transition.

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Agreed.

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Definitely overdue.

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My mom still mentors 1102 even though I graduated many moons ago. They've dropped FTC entirely for the coming year and are only doing Vex and FRC. Will they invest more in FRC? Only time will tell because they are doing a lot to recruit new mentors. As far as I know now they still only plan to do 1 regional. They definitely have a lot more success with lower cost competitions. They have a record of winning some event in FTC or Vex every year since I was a Freshman in highschool in 08.

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3196 did not make it to Einstein in 2012. They were not picked for elims in their division.

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That didn't seem right to me, either, but...TBA says they were on Einstein, they just didn't play in any matches...:confused: I think TBA has been wrong before though.

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They have a dean's list winner from 2012, which since it's awarded at the Einstein level (vs at the division level), means Einstein shows up even though they didn't play on it.

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Many thanks! I think our team is in what I would describe as the robot version of the "friend zone." We aren't quite good enough to be a number one or two seed or the first pick of the one or two seed, but we are generally a little too good to be around for the second pick of one of the top alliances, so we usually end up in a five to seventh seeded alliance.

Our best shot was 2013 in GKC as the 2nd seed captain with 3928 and 1987 but alas, the Kraken (1986) and SWAT (1806) were too much for us to handle. Here's hoping our luck changes this year!

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Got it. My original post has been edited. That could be clearer on TBA. Does Dean's List Finalist qualify a team for the Championship, or did they get there on a wildcard?

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I believe the Engineering Inspiration award they won at the North Carolina Regional is what qualified them for champs. (The Dean's List finalist award alone does not qualify a team for champs.)

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Ask me again after 2017 season is over ;)
Best of luck to all who compete.

Jim (Coach C)
Team 5247
Red Devil Robotics

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Thanks, hopefully this year is our year! I know I'm putting forth more than 100% effort this year, especially since I'm a senior.

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3196's 2013 bot is also one of my favorite robots ever. Such a gorgeous climber.

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Thank you so very much!! All of you are so kind!!!
Scorpion (Our 2013 bot) is unfortunately now gutted of all its electronics, but the mechanical part still holds. We keep it as a display robot at our school, but I hope we can get it fully functioning again one day!

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Thanks! It means a lot. We came SOOOO close to winning at the 2012 Colorado Regional. We were literally as close to winning as you can get without actually winning.

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The move from the Regional model to the District model, has allowed most of the top teams and many of the very good teams in PNW to win an event. It benefited my team two seasons ago as one of the very good (IMO) teams in PNW.

I would probably put 4450 ORF at the top of the list for PNW. They are a relatively new team and haven't made any finals. However, they have consistently been ranked high enough to be an alliance captains at every PNW District Event they've attended the past three seasons. They made all three PNW District Championships and World Championships three out of the four seasons that they have existed.

In the next group, there are several very good teams that have not won an event. There are too many to mention all of them. I would like to call out 1294 and 1778 which probably are the two teams that have the most finalist appearances with three apiece.

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Ditto. 3250 is on the verge of breaking through. 3859 is showing promise too.

Maybe 973 can win an event without sandbagging... ;^)

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Ah, yes forgot about 1323. In 2016, their only losses in eliminations were in 2 Regional finals and the Division final to alliances that included 1678 (3) , 971 (1) and/or 254 (1). But remember that they were on the CVR winning alliance in 2015.

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Usually only the children make this joke.... I guess you're in that club? ;)

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I totally second that about 2013 (although I guess I am a bit biased). And you guys should definitely win the best team mascot award. I can't get enough of your mascot/team bunny brand :D So freaking adorable/scary.