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sastoller 10-11-2016 22:51

Re: Suicide Cables Safe for Motors?
 
This is our setup for running 775 Pros for prototyping. :ahh:


Just kidding! We're using this to run our polycarb line bender.

GeeTwo 11-11-2016 09:09

Re: Suicide Cables Safe for Motors?
 
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Originally Posted by sastoller (Post 1615887)
...Just kidding! We're using this to run our polycarb line bender.

Our air cannon also uses two batteries (for long run time, not high current draw), but we just put two SB-50As in parallel off of our main breaker, saving 2 connectors compared to this setup. Or do you use the Y adapter for other things as well?

sastoller 11-11-2016 11:52

Re: Suicide Cables Safe for Motors?
 
It's actually wired to run the two batteries in series. The 775 Pro's just don't spin fast enough for our liking at 12V. In all seriousness, we needed 24V to run higher current through the Nichrome wire to get it warm enough to bend polycarb. Just something we hacked together last night, no other uses yet.

JCharlton 11-11-2016 12:05

Re: Suicide Cables Safe for Motors?
 
A suggestion to everyone is to buy a small 12v battery for testing. A lot less dangerous, and easier to handle.

Also, wiring a small switch box with included fuse is a good exercise for your electrical team.

cgmv123 11-11-2016 13:36

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Originally Posted by JCharlton (Post 1615940)
A suggestion to everyone is to buy a small 12v battery for testing. A lot less dangerous, and easier to handle.

Also, wiring a small switch box with included fuse is a good exercise for your electrical team.

FTC batteries are perfect for this purpose, and they even have an inline fuse.

Seth Mallory 11-11-2016 18:07

Re: Suicide Cables Safe for Motors?
 
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Originally Posted by JCharlton (Post 1615940)
A suggestion to everyone is to buy a small 12v battery for testing. A lot less dangerous, and easier to handle.

Also, wiring a small switch box with included fuse is a good exercise for your electrical team.

This is why we use 12 volt drills with their battery minus their motors. They come with controls for reversible polarity and variable voltage. Just add fuses and connectors.

ctt956 12-11-2016 19:35

Re: Suicide Cables Safe for Motors?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sastoller (Post 1615936)
It's actually wired to run the two batteries in series. The 775 Pro's just don't spin fast enough for our liking at 12V.

Who needs a (cordless) Dremel when you have two robot batteries and a 775Pro? :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by JCharlton (Post 1615940)
A suggestion to everyone is to buy a small 12v battery for testing. A lot less dangerous, and easier to handle.

Also, wiring a small switch box with included fuse is a good exercise for your electrical team.

Use a large(as in physical size) main breaker/power switch so it can be turned off quickly and easily in the event of an emergency. An E-stop button may be a good option, but the low priced ones can only handle about 10 amps, so I wouldn't use it for large motors.

Al Skierkiewicz 14-11-2016 08:48

Re: Suicide Cables Safe for Motors?
 
Just to add a little to this discussion...
Stall current is by definition, the current a motor draws when power is applied but the motor is not turning. (Start satisfies this definition.) The large CIM is rated at 131 amps stall.
As stated, no breaker is designed to protect a motor. It is designed to protect the wiring in an electrical failure. That is why the electrical rules relate breaker size to wire size.
Most pots are in the 1/4 to 1 watt rating. At 100 amps, that pot could be asked to dissipate 80+ watts when in series with a CIM at half speed.
The drill option stated in several places, gives a lot of advantages including reversing, variable speed and it likely also has internal over current protection.
An alternative is to use an inline fuse holder designed for the maxi-fuse 40 size when wiring to a robot battery. The inline circuit protection should be placed as close to the robot battery as possible to protect the wiring and load from heat and fire. Use a 40 amp breaker in place of the fuse. The main breaker can also be used but is harder to insulate and protect.


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