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Theseusgoats 11-27-2016 02:16 PM

FRC In Indiana 2017
 
How's it going Indiana teams, are we ready for FRC Steamworks?

I'm just wanting any Indiana teams' thoughts on this next year, any predictions prior to the release of the game, or any teams that you think we should keep an eye out for. Also, post anything new that your team is doing in preparation for this year that's any different than before. Lastly, congratulations to team 1501 for hosting the State Championship this year!

Billfred 11-27-2016 03:29 PM

Re: FRC IN 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Theseusgoats (Post 1617849)
How's it going Indiana teams, are we ready for FRC Steamworks?

I'm just wanting any Indiana teams' thoughts on this next year, any predictions prior to the release of the game, or any teams that you think we should keep an eye out for. Also, post anything new that your team is doing in preparation for this year that's any different than before. Lastly, congratulations to team 1501 for hosting the State Championship this year!

Predictions before the game:
  • I'm gonna freeze my butt off here. (You didn't say they had to be *about* the game.)
  • The Kokomo YMCA's indoor pool will be very beneficial.

Teams to keep an eye out for:
I'm still working on this one--the only in-state events I've been to since I got here were Boiler Bot Battle (with a small team count and lots of B-teams) and IRI (which is, well, IRI). The only other team I'm really around much is CyberTooth (imagine that), and I think most of us would be more shocked to see them miss the show at any given event than to do well in it.

What have the Iron Kings been up to?
I wasn't around for last season, but the results speak for themselves--36th in the rankings, missed state, no hardware, one quarterfinals appearance as the second pick, and two teachers that both left the team over the off-season. So this fall has been a lot of rebuilding, from sponsors to software. We're still not to the level I'd really prefer, but seeing where things were I think it's great progress. Making playoffs and making our way to Huntington feels very plausible.

Peyton Yeung 11-27-2016 05:17 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Well 461 over went a massive change this off season as we moved to a new build facility and lost many of our manufacturing machines. This year we have a pretty young team so we are taking the next few weeks to train everyone in CAD and fabrication. We're hoping to end the finalist curse this season as always.

carpedav000 11-27-2016 05:22 PM

Re: FRC IN 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred (Post 1617855)
Predictions before the game:[list][*]I'm gonna freeze my butt off here. (You didn't say they had to be *about* the game.)

The cold here is imaginary, you get used to it after a while (I'm fruequently seen sporting t-shirts in subzero temperatures).

As for teams to look out for, here's what I came up with:
45- TechnoKats
71- Hammond
135- Penn Robotics
234- Cyber Blue
461- Westside Boiler Invasion
868- TechHounds
1024- Kil-a-Bytes
1501- T.H.R.U.S.T
1720- Phyxt Gears
1741- Red Alert
1747- Harrison Boiler Robotics
3176- Purple Prescision
3940- CyberTooth
3947- The Last Crusaders
5188- Classified Robotics

Taylor 11-28-2016 09:31 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Time for a Fearless Prediction.
These are the teams that will be attending the 2017 State Championship in Huntington.
71
135
234
292
447
461
868
1018
1024
1501
1529
1646
1720
1741
1747
2171
3147
3176
3487
3494
3940
3947
4103
4272
4485
4580
4926
4982
5402
6451
6498
(Note: some teams may be invited but defer. This is the attending list.)
Is your team missing, and you don't like it? Prove me wrong!

Billfred 11-28-2016 09:39 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1618007)
Time for a Fearless Prediction.
These are the teams that will be attending the 2017 State Championship in Huntington.
(Note: some teams may be invited but defer. This is the attending list.)
Is your team missing, and you don't like it? Prove me wrong!

No TechnoKats? Bold indeed.

Taylor 11-28-2016 09:42 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Billfred (Post 1618008)
No TechnoKats? Bold indeed.

That's why I put the caveat at the bottom. They've already got a lifetime ticket to CMP. They will defer state to save finances.
A sizeable team contingent will still come as volunteers.

Theseusgoats 11-28-2016 11:58 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
I feel like I say this a lot but don’t sleep (count out) on 4982. They’ve been pretty good the past few years, even captaining an alliance to the finals of an event last year.

Hgree56 11-29-2016 08:48 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1618007)
Time for a Fearless Prediction.
These are the teams that will be attending the 2017 State Championship in Huntington.
71
135
234
292
447
461
868
1018
1024
1501
1529
1646
1720
1741
1747
2171
3147
3176
3487
3494
3940
3947
4103
4272
4485
4580
4926
4982
5402
6451
6498
(Note: some teams may be invited but defer. This is the attending list.)
Is your team missing, and you don't like it? Prove me wrong!

I must say, I find it indeed bold to not list 5188, 5403, or 5484 on this list. That being said, I can somewhat understand why on all three.


Also, thank you for listing 4272! We are preparing for what we hope to be a great season!! Good luck to everyone competing!!!

ARampantBrian 12-01-2016 11:56 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Game Predictions:
We predict that the district events will potentially be played on a field, possibly in a high school gymnasium somewhere. Further than that, it's all just guesses. :)

Thoughts on Teams:
I agree with the lists here already as teams to look out for. As a whole, the level of competitiveness of Indiana teams had increased quite a bit between the 2015 season and the 2016 season, so I would look out for a similar increase between 2016 to 2017 for this year.

How 5188 has been doing:
For those aware, 5188 has gone through a huge overhaul between the 2016 Season and the 2017 one. For one, one of our longtime (if you can say that on a team that's only been around for 4 years) mentors moved on from the team last year mid season. This had led to a lot of scrambling, and our 2016 season and robot had been impacted from that.

This offseason has been a huge effort in trying to figure out what direction we wanted our team to go, and figuring out a couple school and funds problems along the way. I'm proud to say that I believe 5188 has figured out many of these issues with an almost entirely new mentor base, and I think we will be in good shape for the 2017 season. I personally believe that 5188 will be in Huntington in early April and we look forward to seeing all of Indiana's team's here in the upcoming months.

Richard Wallace 12-01-2016 01:44 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
I predict Indiana teams will kick 'bot at CMP with at least three appearing in division finals, and one on Einstein. Also, exactly one Indiana team on the winning IRI alliance.

Ya'll fight it out over which teams fulfil the above. ��

Theseusgoats 12-02-2016 10:23 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
I imagine that the current and consistent top 3 will probably be the ones making it to division finals:
1501
1024
234 (Had a poor year, by their standards, even though they did amazing at champs. I think they will be able to do much better this year)

I gotta say 234 will probably be winning IRI too, with a home field advantage.

Peyton Yeung 12-02-2016 10:48 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Theseusgoats (Post 1618865)
I imagine that the current and consistent top 3 will probably be the ones making it to division finals:
1501
1024
234 (Had a poor year, by their standards, even though they did amazing at champs. I think they will be able to do much better this year)

I gotta say 234 will probably be winning IRI too, with a home field advantage.

Has any of the host teams ever won IRI though?

Personally I wouldn't count out 868 or 1747 this year.

carpedav000 12-02-2016 01:00 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Bold(ish) predictions:

- 5188, 461, 1646, and 1741 will win an event this year as captain or first pick, but not on the #1 alliance.
- The #1 alliance will not win at any events
- The #5 alliance will win dcmp

Peyton Yeung 12-02-2016 01:19 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1618903)
Bold(ish) predictions:

- 5188, 461, 1646, and 1741 will win an event this year as captain or first pick, but not on the #1 alliance.

I'll take it. The number of times 461 had to go against 1741 last season (11 times out of 13 pairings) I wouldn't mind playing on the same side and winning an event this year.

Logan Byers 12-02-2016 01:20 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1618903)
Bold(ish) predictions:

- 5188, 461, 1646, and 1741 will win an event this year as captain or first pick, but not on the #1 alliance.
- The #1 alliance will not win at any events
- The #5 alliance will win dcmp

*Emphasis mine

Well, if the Cubs can finally win a world series...

carpedav000 12-02-2016 01:30 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Peyton Yeung (Post 1618906)
I'll take it. The number of times 461 had to go against 1741 last season (11 times out of 13 pairings) I wouldn't mind playing on the same side and winning an event this year.

By "pairings", do you mean the times you were in the same match? If I remember correct, 461 came out on top in most of those.

BoilerMentor 12-02-2016 01:47 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1618903)
Bold(ish) predictions:

- 5188, 461, 1646, and 1741 will win an event this year as captain or first pick, but not on the #1 alliance.
- The #1 alliance will not win at any events
- The #5 alliance will win dcmp


Quote:

Originally Posted by Logan Byers (Post 1618907)
*Emphasis mine

Well, if the Cubs can finally win a world series...

Since we're talking about alumni teams...

FTFY

Chris is me 12-02-2016 03:09 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Theseusgoats (Post 1618865)
I gotta say 234 will probably be winning IRI too, with a home field advantage.

For the majority of off-season events, there is usually the opposite of home field advantage. Team resources that would be put into attempting to win the event are often tied up in running the event, so teams hosting events don't always do as well as they normally do.

Theseusgoats 12-02-2016 06:15 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
I can understand why people would think that just because 234 is hosting the event doesn't mean they can win it. However, that's not really my only reasoning. They are just a very consistent and strong team. Anyway, we still have no clue what can happen, need to wait for it...:yikes:

Taylor 12-03-2016 08:00 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
None of the host teams (45, 234, 1024) have ever won IRI. Indiana team wins are far and few between - I think 71 has one or two and that's it. I've spent quite a bit of time studying the banners at that event. :]

carpedav000 12-03-2016 04:09 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Taylor (Post 1619054)
None of the host teams (45, 234, 1024) have ever won IRI. Indiana team wins are far and few between - I think 71 has one or two and that's it. I've spent quite a bit of time studying the banners at that event. :]

The only team I remember even making elims at IRI in recent years is 447 in 2014. It's the corn curse :ahh:

ElliottB 12-03-2016 05:01 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1619101)
The only team I remember even making elims at IRI in recent years is 447 in 2014. It's the corn curse :ahh:

45 was an alliance captain at IRI this past year. I believe 1024 and 868 made elims as well.

carpedav000 12-03-2016 06:40 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ElliottB (Post 1619112)
45 was an alliance captain at IRI this past year. I believe 1024 and 868 made elims as well.

Woops :yikes:

Taylor 12-05-2016 08:03 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
3947 was the 7th alliance captain their first or second year.

logank013 12-05-2016 08:10 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1619101)
The only team I remember even making elims at IRI in recent years is 447 in 2014. It's the corn curse :ahh:

234 "made elims" (Edit: at IRI) in 2015 as a backup for our alliance. It was the #8 alliance that went to the semis and almost got to the finals. But our robot never competed in any of those matches. Our noodle thrower got a few points for the alliance, (plus 2122 was a real sleeper pick that year. The announcer called them a 'value pick' if I remember right) :D

logank013 12-05-2016 08:16 AM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
My guess for Indiana this year will be that a few good teams won't get to go to worlds this year because our worlds spots aren't really going to go up any and consistency issues. Any team who is consistent will get to go to worlds. I think last year was a good example of how good robots didn't go to worlds from IN due to only having 9 or 10 spots and lack of consistency by those bots.

My guess is that 1024 will finally lose an IN event (who knows, maybe they will be the 2056 of IN).

My bold guess will be that any team who has practiced any type of football shooting will be good this year. This also serves a game prediction... I just have a feeling about footballs being a game piece this year. :D

Theseusgoats 12-05-2016 05:03 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1619398)
My guess for Indiana this year will be that a few good teams won't get to go to worlds this year because our worlds spots aren't really going to go up any and consistency issues. Any team who is consistent will get to go to worlds. I think last year was a good example of how good robots didn't go to worlds from IN due to only having 9 or 10 spots and lack of consistency by those bots.

My guess is that 1024 will finally lose an IN event (who knows, maybe they will be the 2056 of IN).

My bold guess will be that any team who has practiced any type of football shooting will be good this year. This also serves a game prediction... I just have a feeling about footballs being a game piece this year. :D

Well I feel like the fact that a couple of good teams will not be able to go to champs kind of happened last year. I mean just thinking about it I can remember 71, 1741, 4982, 3940 all didn't go through and those are some pretty good teams. But yes, I have to agree that I believe that at least 4 or 5 teams will get the short end of the stick if you will.

Also, 1024 hasn't lost an IN event yet?!:ahh:

carpedav000 12-05-2016 05:26 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Theseusgoats (Post 1619504)
Well I feel like the fact that a couple of good teams will not be able to go to champs kind of happened last year. I mean just thinking about it I can remember 71, 1741, 4982, 3940 all didn't go through and those are some pretty good teams. But yes, I have to agree that I believe that at least 4 or 5 teams will get the short end of the stick if you will.

Also, 1024 hasn't lost an IN event yet?!:ahh:

They're on a 6 (I think) event win streak for IN.

IndySam 12-05-2016 05:45 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by carpedav000 (Post 1619507)
They're on a 6 (I think) event win streak for IN.

I loves the bytes but I believe their current streak is 2.

logank013 12-05-2016 10:29 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by IndySam (Post 1619511)
I loves the bytes but I believe their current streak is 2.

No. They won week 4 and INCMPS with us in 2015. Then, they won all 4 IN events this year. Their streak is 4. So they are 6 for 8 on IN events i believe. They have a streak of 6 however. Either way, they may not be perfect like 2056 was but still really impressive in my opinion.

Edit: Plus, you can look at their banners on the right side of this page. It's a cool feature by TBA.

IndySam 12-05-2016 10:37 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1619611)
No. They won week 4 and INCMPS with us in 2015. Then, they won all 4 IN events this year. Their streak is 4. So they are 6 for 8 on IN events i believe. They have a streak of 6 however. Either way, they may not be perfect like 2056 was but still really impressive in my opinion.

Edit: Plus, you can look at their banners on the right side of this page. It's a cool feature by TBA.

Ya I was stuck in 2015 (you can understand me forgetting last year)

Billfred 12-05-2016 10:59 PM

Re: FRC In Indiana 2017
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by logank013 (Post 1619611)
They have a streak of 6 however. Either way, they may not be perfect like 2056 was but still really impressive in my opinion.

Notable Streaks in History:

23 - 2056, at regionals
21 - The Undertaker, at WrestleMania
6 - 1024, at Indiana events
5 - Jimmie Johnson, in NASCAR's Chase for the Sprint Cup

Not bad company!


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