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James3245 08-12-2016 07:55

drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
We do a fair amount of drilling holes in 1x2in tube stock. Sometimes many holes for lightening purposes. We've succeeded various ways - I'd like to know what is best practice with:

3/4in and larger diameter holes in 1/8in aluminum stock

Two specific questions when using a drill press:

a. what drill bit is best? hole saw bit, large drill bit, step drill bit, other

b. what is best technique? (pilot hole? oil? other recs.)

I'd like to settle on one tool and technique for my team and I would appreciate advice from experienced machinists.

Thanks!

jamesmcip 08-12-2016 08:02

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James3245 (Post 1620055)
Two specific questions:

a. what drill bit is best? hole saw bit, large drill bit, step drill bit, other

b. what is best technique? (pilot hole? oil? other recs.)
Thanks!

For larger sized holes up to about 1" or 1 1/8", we always use a step bit for very accurate holes with a nice surface finish. Anything larger than that hole saws become basically the only option.

Step bits are very quiet and smooth when sharp, but it is best practice to use oil when necessary to cool it off for a little bit. If you had to choose one tool, I would go with the step bit.

Type 08-12-2016 08:25

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
My team actually uses a hand drill since most holes are applied after the robot is assembled. We created a block to clamp onto the side of the tube, giving a perfect located hole. I can't remember what size we go up to but we use a stepbit also, just drill a pilot hole and run the step bit through and it's very easy to make up to 1 1/8 holes atleast

James3245 08-12-2016 08:27

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Is it best practice to use a starter hole or does a step bit make it unnecessary?

James3245 08-12-2016 08:29

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
And how does one achieve consistency on size of hole, if necessary, with a step drill bit?

Type 08-12-2016 08:51

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James3245 (Post 1620061)
Is it best practice to use a starter hole or does a step bit make it unnecessary?

I'm not sure if it is necessary, but it does make it easier in my opinion. Just a hole so when you start drilling, it doesn't move around.

And a step bit has multiple layers usually, so after you drill with one, it kinda skips to a wider layer, and you can feel that drop. So you can either count the drops, or every once in awhile stop the drill and see what number shows up for that section you are in, if that makes sense.

MrForbes 08-12-2016 08:59

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
We haven't had to drill any lightening holes since our rookie year....best practice is to design the robot so it's light enough.

Sometimes we use hole saws to make large holes, if we need them for functional reasons. But usually if we are using aluminum square tube, it will get brackets riveted to it, or maybe it will pivot on some bolts, or something simple like that, so it won't need holes larger than maybe 3/8" diameter. We don't even have a unibit.

Whippet 08-12-2016 09:44

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
We've been using these carbide hole cutters for bearing mount holes. I do recommend the hole cutter since it makes consistent holes in a drill press and bearings just slide right in there once you get the hang of drilling without applying a lot of force.

electroken 08-12-2016 10:08

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James3245 (Post 1620062)
And how does one achieve consistency on size of hole, if necessary, with a step drill bit?

Set the depth stop on the drill press.

electroken 08-12-2016 10:15

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whippet (Post 1620075)
We've been using these carbide hole cutters for bearing mount holes. I do recommend the hole cutter since it makes consistent holes in a drill press and bearings just slide right in there once you get the hang of drilling without applying a lot of force.

We've used cutters like those and they work very well in aluminum. Our approach for bearing holes is a bit different. We use a 28mm cutter (a couple thousandths too small) and follow up with an adjustable reamer for a light press fit of the bearing.

artdutra04 08-12-2016 10:49

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by James3245 (Post 1620062)
And how does one achieve consistency on size of hole, if necessary, with a step drill bit?

If you are using a step drill in a hand drill and making a lot of holes, put masking or painters tape around the step drill on the width above where you want to stop at, then just stop pushing when the masking tape touches what you are drilling into.

bobbysq 08-12-2016 11:57

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Whippet (Post 1620075)
We've been using these carbide hole cutters for bearing mount holes. I do recommend the hole cutter since it makes consistent holes in a drill press and bearings just slide right in there once you get the hang of drilling without applying a lot of force.

Will also recommend. It's a lot better than the other kind of hole saws that we were using before. (Which apparently were intended for wood and not metal! They worked well enough though.)

Ari423 08-12-2016 12:02

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by artdutra04 (Post 1620088)
If you are using a step drill in a hand drill and making a lot of holes, put masking or painters tape around the step drill on the width above where you want to stop at, then just stop pushing when the masking tape touches what you are drilling into.

Or just get something like this and drill all the way through.

dradel 08-12-2016 12:35

Personally I favor these for up to 3/4" they do come larger as well

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0082...ScL&ref=plSrch

InFlight 08-12-2016 13:07

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Layout all your holes first, and use a center-punch to guide the drill.

For drilling through 6061 Rectangular sections, I would also recommend a hole saw. The OD of the hole saw will keep it centered in the first hole, so it can cleanly go though and makes a parallel cut in the back side. A slower cutting speed, and liberal use of cutting fluid is the best method.

Cleanup with a deburring tool

MrBasse 08-12-2016 13:50

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dradel (Post 1620124)
Personally I favor these for up to 3/4" they do come larger as well

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0082...ScL&ref=plSrch

Annular cutters are fabulous when a precise hole is needed. Our set has seen a lot of action since we bought it a few years back. Makes a great press fit bearing hole if done just right.

ChuckDickerson 08-12-2016 14:14

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
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Originally Posted by MrBasse (Post 1620138)
Annular cutters are fabulous when a precise hole is needed. Our set has seen a lot of action since we bought it a few years back. Makes a great press fit bearing hole if done just right.

We also use annular/Hougen/Blair cutters quite a bit. We have small hole (up to 3/4") and large hole (up to 1-1/2") sets. The only issue with them is the cutter is often very difficult to remove from the arbor after use. We use the little spacer/washer but often it is a a real struggle getting the cutter off. Maybe we are doing something wrong? Does anyone have any tips or tricks to making it easier?

MrBasse 08-12-2016 14:30

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckDickerson (Post 1620145)
We also use annular/Hougen/Blair cutters quite a bit. We have small hole (up to 3/4") and large hole (up to 1-1/2") sets. The only issue with them is the cutter is often very difficult to remove from the arbor after use. We use the little spacer/washer but often it is a a real struggle getting the cutter off. Maybe we are doing something wrong? Does anyone have any tips or tricks to making it easier?

Our set has a small flat on the top away from the cutting edge and we just use a set of channel locks or a wrench to break them loose. Very much important to wait for them to cool down before doing this as that makes it easier too and prevents burns from touching a hot cutter. We typically just grab the arbor in a vise and then break it loose so we can finish removal by hand.

MonroeM 08-12-2016 16:18

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
We do a lot of modifying of old parts so it is somewhat often that we have to widen a hole on a mount of some kind. To do this we use a half horsepower dremel with an aluminum cutting bit on it. This when well waxed will cut through aluminum like butter.

James3245 08-12-2016 17:06

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
Thanks for all the tips and suggestions!

SparkyMark 08-12-2016 17:20

Re: drilling larger holes in aluminum
 
:eek: Y'all are making this way too hard. Get your hands on a set of GreenLee knockouts - a staple in electrical work. They come in various sizes, from 1/2" on up. Typically the larger sets will use a hydraulic puller, and they can cost a chunk of change, but we've used a smaller manual set for years.

Perfect for flange bearings - press fit or slide in with a tiny bit of cleanup. The only hole you have to drill is the 5/8" pilot for the 1/2" bit. If you want to go larger, use the 1/2" first then pick your desired size. Simple. Clean. Effective. Great for lightening holes too.

Safer than a hole saw and cooler than a step bit, they're a lot less messy and don't require lubrication. Properly cared for they should last forever. ::safety::

(Zoro sells a slug splitter with four sizes for $140)

The actual sizes mentioned are "trade sizes" as these dies typically are used for conduit installation. The actual size is slightly larger (1/2" is .875 nominal, e.g.) and can be found via google. Sorry for the confusion.

dradel 08-12-2016 18:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChuckDickerson (Post 1620145)
We also use annular/Hougen/Blair cutters quite a bit. We have small hole (up to 3/4") and large hole (up to 1-1/2") sets. The only issue with them is the cutter is often very difficult to remove from the arbor after use. We use the little spacer/washer but often it is a a real struggle getting the cutter off. Maybe we are doing something wrong? Does anyone have any tips or tricks to making it easier?



Put cutting fluid on the threads prior to putting the cutter on the arbor.


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