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Hallry 12-12-2016 16:36

[FRC Blog] FIRST Championship Housing Registration
 
Posted on the FRC Blog, 12/12//16: http://www.firstinspires.org/robotic...g-registration

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FIRST Championship Housing Registration

Written by Frank Merrick, 2016 DEC 12.


Registration for housing for FIRST Championship opens this Thursday, 12/15, at 1PM Eastern Time. Teams registering for Championship housing early will have easier access to the most desirable rooms, so we encourage you to think about your options soon.



There are two registration links, one for the Houston location and one for the St. Louis location. As we noted in this blog, you will only be able to register in advance for housing at your home Championship location, so you should only use the link for that location (the other link will not function for you). If you are unsure of your home Championship location, please refer to this map. If you register for housing at your home location, then later are allowed to switch your Championship attendance to your non-home location, Experient will work with you to make new reservations.

Login information from Experient's site last year was not carried forward, so all teams will need to create a new login.

New (and exciting!) this year - the registration system will show room inventory levels dynamically. No more waiting a few days to see if you got the rooms you wanted, you will know right away what's available and whether or not you got what you wanted. You may notice a few other positive changes in the registration system as well.



Also, just as we did last year, pre-qualified teams, those teams who have already been invited to the 2017 FIRST Championship because of something they did in earlier seasons, will be able to register for housing a few days before non-pre-qualified teams. These teams did something extraordinary to deserve being first in line. You can see the list of pre-qualified teams here.

Remember, you won't be able to start registering until 1PM Eastern Time on Thursday!

Happy housing!

Frank

Michael Corsetto 12-12-2016 17:30

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I was inspired to look into pre-qualified teams after reading this post. For those interested, Houston 1/2 Champs has 10 pre-qualified teams registered, while St. Louis 1/2 Champs has 21 pre-qualified teams registered. It also appears that 12 of 20 HoF teams will be attending St. Louis.

But, you know, I'm sure teams going to Houston will get the same quality CMP experience :rolleyes:

-Mike

Nate Laverdure 12-12-2016 17:45

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Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto (Post 1620896)
It also appears that 15 of 20 HoF teams will be attending St. Louis.

Dude
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Exception: Hall of Fame teams have committed to FIRST that they will be a solid presence at both Championships. They
are selecting their Championship location by working out how best to split their attendance among themselves, with
FIRST HQ input.

Lil' Lavery 12-12-2016 17:48

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I think Mike's concern is that it would now require HoF teams to switch registrations to attend the other Championship. We already see 120, 175 and 365 in Houston, but the remainder of the St. Louis-area HoF teams and some of the Houston-area HoF teams* are registered for St. Louis.


*254, 359, 597

Michael Corsetto 12-12-2016 17:50

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Originally Posted by Nate Laverdure (Post 1620898)

Seemed to be worth pointing out :) To be fair, a majority of HoF teams have St. Louis as their home event. I was just surprised that "split" meant 12-6.

-Mike

Nuttyman54 12-12-2016 17:51

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Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto (Post 1620896)
It also appears that 15 of 20 HoF teams will be attending St. Louis.

FWIW, I counted 6 HOF teams in Houston:

16, 120, 175, 365, 987, 1538

And 12 in St. Louis:
27, 51, 67, 103, 111, 191, 236, 254, 341, 359, 597, 1114

A large number of the extra teams in St. Louis are Original and Sustaining, which makes sense geographically.

Still not very balanced, but not as bad as 3/4 vs 1/4...

Michael Corsetto 12-12-2016 17:52

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Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 1620903)
FWIW, I counted 6 HOF teams in Houston:

16, 120, 175, 365, 987, 1538

And 12 in St. Louis:
27, 51, 67, 103, 111, 191, 236, 254, 341, 359, 597, 1114

A large number of the extra teams in St. Louis are Original and Sustaining, which makes sense geographically.

Still not very balanced, but not as bad as 3/4 vs 1/4...

Ah, I cannot count. I will edit my post. Thanks Evan, I was doing quick glances.

Andrew_L 12-12-2016 17:54

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1620899)
I think Mike's concern is that it would now require HoF teams to switch registrations to attend the other Championship. We already see 175 and 365 in Houston, but the remainder of the St. Louis-area HoF teams and some of the Houston-area HoF teams* are registered for St. Louis.


*254, 359, 597

That, alongside the idea that HoF teams are our shining examples of teams who "get it" and stand out as inspirations to the rest of us, and now those at the Houston event will have less HoF role models to be inspired by (and oddly enough, some of our big name west-coast HoF teams are going to St. Louis [which they have every right to do], but what message does that give to the world about the Houston event?).

Lil' Lavery 12-12-2016 17:56

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Originally Posted by Andrew_L (Post 1620906)
That, alongside the idea that HoF teams are our shining examples of teams who "get it" and stand out as inspirations to the rest of us, and now those at the Houston event will have less HoF role models to be inspired by (and oddly enough, some of our big name west-coast HoF teams are going to St. Louis [which they have every right to do], but what message does that give to the world about the Houston event?).

It has been an "even trade" so far (3 STL teams heading to Houston and vice-versa), so perhaps the HoF teams have to find willing partners to swap with? Can any HoF teams clarify?

Rangel(kf7fdb) 12-12-2016 17:57

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We will be registering for Houston provided we do well this season* so you can probably add one more to the Houston count.


*We started turning down the pre qualification last year and will probably do it all the time now. Just seems to make the team and students more motivated during the season.

Tyler Olds 12-12-2016 18:02

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I'm most excited about the dynamic room inventory levels. I have had nothing but bad experiences with Experient and I hope that Wave has a better experience trying to book this year and this looks to be a positive change.

SenorZ 12-12-2016 18:05

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Big question is, will the system work? Last year, the housing site thought I was trying to register an FLL team 4276, without showing an FRC team with that number.
And the company was very slow in responding to emails.

JB987 12-12-2016 22:29

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Gee, I wonder if some of the overload of HOF teams in St. Louis might have something to do with the timing of the Vex Worlds event? ;) Those of us 'staying home' at Houston will do our best to make the event as competitive as we can:D

Monochron 15-12-2016 13:22

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Does anyone know what amount your card is charged when creating the Block through Experient? It really seems like it is going to charge for either the first night all rooms, or the whole booking. It really doens't seem clear on the site, and I really don't want to pay thousands of dollars without knowing if we are going or not...

Edit: "Summary of charges" at the very last page seemed to indicate a charge of $0.

RoboTigers1796 15-12-2016 13:25

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Well those rooms disappeared even faster than the regionals during first event registrations. Got our second choice, not quite enough rooms but it'll do I suppose. Hope everyone got at least a few rooms blocked that they needed.

Went smoothly besides rooms disappearing and having to go through what felt like endless forms before blocking rooms. Even with autofill it took a few minutes to get through to the actual booking. Hopefully next year they let us register in advance and then go for the blocks right at 1pm.
..or get rid of this ridiculous system all together; but I won't get into that.

Bryan Herbst 15-12-2016 13:43

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For everyone else in a similar boat: You can't remove room blocks yourself. You also can't call to remove the blocks.

You need to email support to get them to remove the blocks.

I'm not kidding.

marshall 15-12-2016 13:50

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Originally Posted by Bryan Herbst (Post 1621510)
For everyone else in a similar boat: You can't remove room blocks yourself. You also can't call to remove the blocks.

You need to email support to get them to remove the blocks.

I'm not kidding.

Hey, me too!

(Seriously, just had the same conversation with phone support).

Monochron 15-12-2016 13:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan Herbst (Post 1621510)
For everyone else in a similar boat: You can't remove room blocks yourself. You also can't call to remove the blocks.

You need to email support to get them to remove the blocks.

I'm not kidding.

Yep, all those people who would like to see some extra availability have to wait on email support clearing other blocks. Joy.

Rick 15-12-2016 15:05

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My experience: I read through the instructions today prior to booking. By 1:04pm, I had the quantity and type of rooms we wanted, in the hotel we wanted, with absolutely no issues.

Overall a positive experience.

Monochron 15-12-2016 16:19

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Originally Posted by Rick (Post 1621530)
My experience: I read through the instructions today prior to booking. By 1:04pm, I had the quantity and type of rooms we wanted, in the hotel we wanted, with absolutely no issues.

Overall a positive experience.

Heh, at 1:02 I finally gave up on the screen where I select my team number. I decided to search for my team number again and then the site let me select my team. Got some third choice rooms at a good rate, just not within walking distance.

SenorZ 15-12-2016 16:27

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Got the minimum number of rooms I wanted, at the cheapest hotel.
Tried to add a couple more a minute later... sold out.
Tried again just now, and there are plenty of rooms.

sanddrag 15-12-2016 18:55

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Logged in at 10:00 AM Pacific on the dot. It wasn't live, kept telling me to log in at 1:00 PM eastern (which it already was). Tried repeatedly well into the 10:01 minute, at which point I had to go back to work, because some of us actually have jobs and work during the day, and can't drop everything to compete with the other 3,000 teams over registering for things for FIRST.. I went back in around 1:00 PM Pacific this afternoon and got the Westin for Houston at $175/night. It's about 7 miles out. Not sure how others fared. I will say the website and process was cleaner than last year, despite the late opening. Does anyone know what time it actually opened this morning?

E. Wood 15-12-2016 20:41

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Logged on to the system to search at 8 pm. I requested a block of 14 rooms and the search only returned 6 hotels, all of which were at least 13 miles away. Only two or three had double bed rooms as an option. I must have 14 double bed rooms for a team size of 40 and we cannot stay in separate hotels. I had no problem reserving rooms well into January or February the last few years with more teams attending the event.

This system is broken. I tried calling hotels in person with no luck as well because FIRST has them all blocked. Hopefully some more will open up tomorrow.

Bryan Herbst 16-12-2016 09:34

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Originally Posted by E. Wood (Post 1621654)
Logged on to the system to search at 8 pm. I requested a block of 14 rooms and the search only returned 6 hotels, all of which were at least 13 miles away. Only two or three had double bed rooms as an option. I must have 14 double bed rooms for a team size of 40 and we cannot stay in separate hotels. I had no problem reserving rooms well into January or February the last few years with more teams attending the event.

This system is broken. I tried calling hotels in person with no luck as well because FIRST has them all blocked. Hopefully some more will open up tomorrow.

There definitely is something a little strange going on with the hotels, and I'm guessing FIRST/Experient is holding some rooms back for later in the season.

In particular, our team was hoping to get into the Hilton by the Ballpark like we did last year, but when I logged in right when the system opened that hotel didn't show up at all.


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