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Chris is me 16-12-2016 13:57

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Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1621789)
A linear actuater would have even awesome. Unfortunately I've heard nothing but awful things about darts and with a price as high as theirs I really decided not to consider them an option.

I haven't yet heard anything bad about DARTs; do you have some discussions to link to on that? Would be good to know for the future.

As you've probably learned, rotational arm joints are sometimes tricky and require some care to do with the standard sprocket at the pivot point method of rotation. You could probably have attempted something with pneumatics, which simplifies control and is easier to make strong. Stack two pistons of different throw length on each other and now you have a four position actuator.

Ben Martin 16-12-2016 19:17

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Originally Posted by Chris is me (Post 1621792)
I haven't yet heard anything bad about DARTs; do you have some discussions to link to on that? Would be good to know for the future.

The DARTs have several eccentricities you need to work around -- they aren't "plug and play" and require a level of hardware and software understanding. If anyone is interested in details, you can PM me and I'll detail our experience. We used 2 on our arm last year.

It may change for next year, I know AM is working to make them better based on team feedback.

Also, thanks for using us as an inspiration! :)

rithinrv 19-12-2016 01:58

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What gearbox are you guys using for manipulating your arm and what is its reduction?

Sperkowsky 19-12-2016 08:22

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Originally Posted by rithinrv (Post 1622199)
What gearbox are you guys using for manipulating your arm and what is its reduction?

The Versaplanetary has 2 10:1 stages for 100:1. It then goes into a 24t gear which goes into a 60t gear which brings the reduction to around 250:1. A chain is then driven by a 12t Sprocket which goes to a 36t sprocket making our end reduction about 750:1.

The reduction was pretty much perfect for the arm (It originally had a giant cylinder mounted to the back). The biggest issue that we cantilevered a shaft which had to deal with loads that big on a plastic gearbox.

OccamzRazor 20-12-2016 14:46

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How did you guys get the motors and gearboxes in with that tubing in the way? It looks like it would take quite a while to replace anything should a motor go out or something similar.

Sperkowsky 20-12-2016 15:11

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Originally Posted by OccamzRazor (Post 1622470)
How did you guys get the motors and gearboxes in with that tubing in the way? It looks like it would take quite a while to replace anything should a motor go out or something similar.

Attaching everything was very simple but repairing? Not so much. We were pretty confident that the gearboxes wouldn't break in the 1 offseason they were used at, but... They did. Ended up taking us about an hour and a half which involved taking the entire side of the chassis off, sliding out the output shaft and then carefully reassembling everything. We will definitely design stuff to be more easily repaired in the future.


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