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Sperkowsky 16-12-2016 00:32

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Dave McLaughlin 16-12-2016 00:33

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What was the stress point?

pilleya 16-12-2016 00:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave McLaughlin (Post 1621697)
What was the stress point?

From looking back at previous posts I believe they had problems with the cantilevering of the CIM+what looks to be a 2-3 stage VersaPlanetary from a plastic clamping gearbox. When going over defenses the Clamping Gearbox would fail.

Ginger Power 16-12-2016 00:58

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That thing looks pretty familiar :D

BobbyVanNess 16-12-2016 02:24

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Originally Posted by Ginger Power (Post 1621700)
That thing looks pretty familiar :D

That thing looks pretty familiar... :P

But seriously, we love that picture. That was a fun match.

Sperkowsky 16-12-2016 07:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave McLaughlin (Post 1621697)
What was the stress point?

Alastair sorta explained it but I'll elaborate.

Essentially the output shaft of the tilt assembly (the one with the small sprocket on it) was cantilevered. Whenever the arm had a fair amount of velocity and stopped moving the chain would tug the shaft backward quickly causing the clamping gearbox to crack open.

EmileH 16-12-2016 07:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Ginger Power (Post 1621700)
That thing looks pretty familiar :D

Yeah, it sure does. :p

Sperkowsky 16-12-2016 07:23

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Originally Posted by EmileH (Post 1621723)
Yeah, it sure does. :p

They was the robot I really took inspiration from. Until today I actually never saw 4607s robot. When designing the bot I found it to be a cross between 225 and 987.

Ginger Power 16-12-2016 08:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BobbyVanNess (Post 1621711)
That thing looks pretty familiar... :P

But seriously, we love that picture. That was a fun match.

By far my favorite match of champs. Probably the most vivid FRC moment for me (I was watching as an inspector from the side of the field). You guys were awesome to compete against, hopefully we get a chance to compete in the future!

pfreivald 16-12-2016 08:59

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Had you considered putting a pneumatic spring on the intake/lift arm for stability, smoothness of operation, and reduced force necessary to lift it?

Sperkowsky 16-12-2016 12:41

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Originally Posted by pfreivald (Post 1621731)
Had you considered putting a pneumatic spring on the intake/lift arm for stability, smoothness of operation, and reduced force necessary to lift it?

Assuming a pneumatic spring and a gas shock are the same thing, it was considered although it was a bit to late when it was. If I were to do a similar thing again I'd use a powerful normally open gas shock and a winch.

mastachyra 16-12-2016 12:51

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I love how glossy the boulder is. It looks like a bowling ball that could actually destroy the castle!

pfreivald 16-12-2016 13:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1621777)
Assuming a pneumatic spring and a gas shock are the same thing, it was considered although it was a bit to late when it was. If I were to do a similar thing again I'd use a powerful normally open gas shock and a winch.

Yup, same thing!

EmileH 16-12-2016 13:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1621777)
Assuming a pneumatic spring and a gas shock are the same thing, it was considered although it was a bit to late when it was. If I were to do a similar thing again I'd use a powerful normally open gas shock and a winch.

4564 used a normally opened gas shock as well as a winch for their defense manipulator/intake arm this year. One drawback was that the arm would fall when crossing defenses like the Cheval De Frise or other rough defenses as the shocks would compress. This required them to lift the arm as they crossed the CDF and others slowing down crossing times. However overall this is a better solution than a motor at the hinge point as it puts significantly less strain on the system.

In this situation a linear actuator is also an option, allowing for very precise control with little backdrive. A good example of this is 1690, as their arm had very little flex and allowed for extremely high accuracy shooting.

Sperkowsky 16-12-2016 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EmileH (Post 1621788)
In this situation a linear actuator is also an option, allowing for very precise control with little backdrive. A good example of this is 1690, as their arm had very little flex and allowed for extremely high accuracy shooting.

A linear actuater would have even awesome. Unfortunately I've heard nothing but awful things about darts and with a price as high as theirs I really decided not to consider them an option.


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