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[FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
http://www.firstinspires.org/robotic...m-kit-of-parts
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For reference, last year's kit was:
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I can't believe I got roll'd in 2017. 2017!!!!!
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So.. apart from the totes being a few pounds lighter or heavier, add one very small item. It must be a packet of instant steam!
Seriously, it is probably just something that came in too late to pack in the tote, otherwise it would be in there, right? |
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One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs.
That's probably the tote One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs. Aluminum tubes. One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. Battery One very small item. I have no clue what this could be, or why it can't go in the tote. Maybe the KOP is locked this year and this is the key? |
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The predictions our team came up with were:
Regular Kit: One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs. = Tote One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs. = 4 aluminum tubes like last year One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. = Battery One very small item. = A button with Frank Merrick's face on it. Rookie Kit: One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 30 lbs. = Rookie Tote One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. = Battery Drive Base Kit: One set of items, collectively, 7 in. x 7 in. x 34 in., 25 lbs. = Drive Base |
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While comparing between 2016 and 2017 kit announcements, I noticed that except the minor changes of totes' weight, the only change is the add of "one very small item".
We can't know if it's a game piece or not, because the game piece can be inside the tote. |
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At first glance the optimist would draw the conclusion that the small item was the game piece and would point towards the "coal" theory on game pieces (small and non-spherical). But I think it is unlikely they would pack a game piece outside of the tote, as the game piece is probably the first thing to be accounted for in terms of space in the tote.
I can hope though right? :p . |
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It's entirely possible the "very small item" is a gift for teams and not at all related to the game, like the 2015 Behind The Design book last year.
Then again it could be Minibot train wheels. Let the wild speculation continue! |
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I remember when my team first started, we would get an envelope with the KoP - I think it had the accelerometer/gyro board in it. That went on for a number of years, too... but not for the past few years. It could easily be something like that!
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Anyone notice the weight difference on the kop drive base box
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2015 KOP Chassis (AM14U2) - 24 lbs 2016 KOP Chassis (AM14U3) - 28 lbs 2017 KOP Chassis (???????) - 25 lbs |
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The new q&a system will be supported by the small item. Powered by Google Assistant, your team's very own talking 8 ball can be shaken when asking a question about this year's rules, with Frank Merricks voice responding to you in real time!
Hopefully they fixed all of the bugs since the beta, especially the one where the ball kept responding with "yes, chute door" no matter what you asked. |
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The small package could be our drive team buttons
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"As much as a baguette is a non-powered signaling device" |
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But this year, it's been announced that teams get buttons ahead of time. As the kits are more-or-less interchangeable between teams, and buttons with team-specific numbers on them are not, that seems likely to me the reason for it to be separate and not a part of the main kits. I'm guessing that the guess that the "very small item" is the set of buttons is right.
Of course, it could also mean that the "extra" 5th drive team member button is actually the game piece. :) |
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AndyMark does not list the weight of the HiGrip wheels (which have been used on the KOP fro the past +3 years) on the website. |
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That said that small package does tip the odds somewhat more towards us getting them ahead of time. |
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The description of the very small item is that it is one item (like the battery), not multiple items (like the 4 aluminum tubes from last year, or the totes). So, not a set of drive team buttons.
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one small item = drone
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Maybe it's a battery for the minibot or a minibot kit? |
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The other option is hot air. No shortage in that. |
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Here are some things that might be bad to put in a tote:
a mouse, a hamster, a frog, an insect, a glass trinket, soup, a small ice sculpture, C4, chocolate, a goldfish, a plant, something battery operated that needs to stay powered at all times, something that is volatile when exposed to air, or a really strong magnet |
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Thinking out loud...seems like there's a chance that a game piece won't be part of the KoP, so what games could be played without game pieces?
The game could be played entirely with field elements that teams have to build or be based entirely off of robot position/actions without game pieces...thoughts? |
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I may be wrong but I think that the 2 lb increase in Kit Tote weight could be because of the game piece(s). The foam ball last year was somewhat light compared to, say, frisbees.
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Does anyone know when I'll be able to download the firmware for the OM5P-AC radio? :rolleyes:
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small object...... steamworks lots of coal guesses... build season pressure
coal+pressure=diamond. the small object is a diamond :) |
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And the extra drive team button turned out to be for the pilot (of the team-designed virtual dirigible/airship). "Grab your goggles!" "Prepare to take flight!" |
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I agree that the first item, the 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs. is a tote. This is supported by the 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 30 lbs. item for rookies.
2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs. is probably some metal, possibly like last year. I could see how the 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. item is a battery, since rookies get an item of identical dimensions. The "very small item" is a mystery. I think there are two main reasons why the dimensions are not specified. If FIRST gives us the dimensions before kickoff to help with transportation, then they think that this item will not be significantly difficult to transport. But I think that this lack of information is a hint. They basically told us that it would be easy to transport, but that specifying exact dimensions would make the item easy to figure out. Based on this, I think the item must be a ball, or something with well-known dimensions. There is also another possible interpretation. FIRST may think that we don't need the size before kickoff, and knowing them, they give us as little information as possible. I think that another possibility that we should consider is that regardless of the size of the "very small object", it is relatively heavy (possibly 10 pounds or greater). FIRST knows that we are in high school, so they want to limit the weight of each item in the kickoff kit to about 50 pounds. This "very small item" is shrouded in mystery, and this is my opinion. What do you think? :confused::ahh::yikes::eek: Gal |
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Maybe it's a FRC legal lipo battery for the secondary flying robot
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How about a flash drive?
The question is what would it contain? |
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Whatever the "small item" is, FIRST had to have had a good reason to not put it in a tote. Anything small should fit in a tote though.:confused:
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In prior years the "small item" has been donations that arrived too late for the KOP tote packing process.
I've been handed small motors and other random items as part of the Kit distribution. |
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