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Drakxii 04-01-2017 10:07

[FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
http://www.firstinspires.org/robotic...m-kit-of-parts

Quote:

Written by Jonathan Bryant, FIRST Robotics Competition Kit of Parts Engineer



We’re using today’s blog to tell you about a juicy piece of information about the 2017 Kit of Parts.

2017 Kickoff Kits will consist of the following items for all teams (sizes and weights are approximate):

One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs.
One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs.
One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.
One very small item.

2017 Kickoff Kits will include the following additional items for Rookie Teams only:

One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 30 lbs.
One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.

Teams who did not opt out of the Drive Base Kit will also receive the following item:

One set of items, collectively, 7 in. x 7 in. x 34 in., 25 lbs.

Teams outside the USA who opted into receiving an additional Kickoff Kit’s worth of game pieces will receive:

More information here.

Good link...

Jon Stratis 04-01-2017 10:16

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
For reference, last year's kit was:
Quote:

2016 Kickoff Kits will consist of the following items for all teams (sizes and weights are approximate):

One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 48 lbs.
One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs.
One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.

2016 Kickoff Kits will include the following additional items for Rookie Teams only:

One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 33 lbs.
One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.

Teams who did not opt out of the Drive Base Kit will also receive the following item:

One set of items, collectively, 7 in. x 7 in. x 34 in., 28 lbs.

Teams who opted into receiving an additional Kickoff Kit’s worth of game pieces will receive:
(redacted)

Jaci 04-01-2017 10:19

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
I can't believe I got roll'd in 2017. 2017!!!!!

GeeTwo 04-01-2017 10:32

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
So.. apart from the totes being a few pounds lighter or heavier, add one very small item. It must be a packet of instant steam!



Seriously, it is probably just something that came in too late to pack in the tote, otherwise it would be in there, right?

bobbysq 04-01-2017 10:33

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs.

That's probably the tote

One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs.

Aluminum tubes.

One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.

Battery

One very small item.

I have no clue what this could be, or why it can't go in the tote. Maybe the KOP is locked this year and this is the key?

weaversam8 04-01-2017 10:36

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
The predictions our team came up with were:

Regular Kit:
One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs. = Tote
One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs. = 4 aluminum tubes like last year
One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. = Battery
One very small item. = A button with Frank Merrick's face on it.

Rookie Kit:
One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 30 lbs. = Rookie Tote
One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. = Battery

Drive Base Kit:
One set of items, collectively, 7 in. x 7 in. x 34 in., 25 lbs. = Drive Base

Lidor51 04-01-2017 10:37

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
While comparing between 2016 and 2017 kit announcements, I noticed that except the minor changes of totes' weight, the only change is the add of "one very small item".
We can't know if it's a game piece or not, because the game piece can be inside the tote.

RobotsQ 04-01-2017 10:40

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
At first glance the optimist would draw the conclusion that the small item was the game piece and would point towards the "coal" theory on game pieces (small and non-spherical). But I think it is unlikely they would pack a game piece outside of the tote, as the game piece is probably the first thing to be accounted for in terms of space in the tote.

I can hope though right? :p .

Nuttyman54 04-01-2017 10:43

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
It's entirely possible the "very small item" is a gift for teams and not at all related to the game, like the 2015 Behind The Design book last year.

Then again it could be Minibot train wheels. Let the wild speculation continue!

Jon Stratis 04-01-2017 10:55

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
I remember when my team first started, we would get an envelope with the KoP - I think it had the accelerometer/gyro board in it. That went on for a number of years, too... but not for the past few years. It could easily be something like that!

dradel 04-01-2017 11:05

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Anyone notice the weight difference on the kop drive base box

bdaroz 04-01-2017 11:12

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dradel (Post 1624992)
Anyone notice the weight difference on the kop drive base box

Nice catch!

Nuttyman54 04-01-2017 11:15

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dradel (Post 1624992)
Anyone notice the weight difference on the kop drive base box

I wouldn't read too much into that. It's lighter than last year's (AM14U3) by 3 lbs, but the 2016 KOP drive base was 4 lbs heavier than the 2015 KOP drive base (AM14U2), and the only substantial difference was the gear ratio and larger wheel size (there were some minor updates to the inner frame rail to accept more gearbox options). There may be some changes to it in 2017, but it also could be pretty much the same as the 2016 kit base, but with 4" wheels.

2015 KOP Chassis (AM14U2) - 24 lbs
2016 KOP Chassis (AM14U3) - 28 lbs
2017 KOP Chassis (???????) - 25 lbs

PayneTrain 04-01-2017 11:16

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The new q&a system will be supported by the small item. Powered by Google Assistant, your team's very own talking 8 ball can be shaken when asking a question about this year's rules, with Frank Merricks voice responding to you in real time!

Hopefully they fixed all of the bugs since the beta, especially the one where the ball kept responding with "yes, chute door" no matter what you asked.

chrisfl 04-01-2017 11:17

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
The small package could be our drive team buttons

BigJ 04-01-2017 11:20

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by PayneTrain (Post 1624995)
The new q&a system will be supported by the small item. Powered by Google Assistant, your team's very own talking 8 ball can be shaken when asking a question about this year's rules, with Frank Merricks voice responding to you in real time!

Hopefully they fixed all of the bugs since the beta, especially the one where the ball kept responding with "yes, chute door" no matter what you asked.

"Q&A, can my robot get off the train rails?"
"As much as a baguette is a non-powered signaling device"

nickmcski 04-01-2017 11:25

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisfl (Post 1624996)
The small package could be our drive team buttons

You get a set of those for every event you attend. In the past they have not been provided in your KOP.

petercooperjr 04-01-2017 11:39

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
But this year, it's been announced that teams get buttons ahead of time. As the kits are more-or-less interchangeable between teams, and buttons with team-specific numbers on them are not, that seems likely to me the reason for it to be separate and not a part of the main kits. I'm guessing that the guess that the "very small item" is the set of buttons is right.

Of course, it could also mean that the "extra" 5th drive team member button is actually the game piece. :)

BotDesigner 04-01-2017 11:46

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuttyman54 (Post 1624994)
I wouldn't read too much into that. It's lighter than last year's (AM14U3) by 3 lbs, but the 2016 KOP drive base was 4 lbs heavier than the 2015 KOP drive base (AM14U2), and the only substantial difference was the gear ratio and larger wheel size (there were some minor updates to the inner frame rail to accept more gearbox options). There may be some changes to it in 2017, but it also could be pretty much the same as the 2016 kit base, but with 4" wheels.

2015 KOP Chassis (AM14U2) - 24 lbs
2016 KOP Chassis (AM14U3) - 28 lbs
2017 KOP Chassis (???????) - 25 lbs

The weight difference between 4" plaction wheels with tread (0.55 pounds) and 6" plaction wheels with tread (0.84 pounds) is 0.29 pounds. With six wheels this means a 1.74 pound total weight difference.

AndyMark does not list the weight of the HiGrip wheels (which have been used on the KOP fro the past +3 years) on the website.

Jon Stratis 04-01-2017 11:50

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petercooperjr (Post 1625004)
But this year, it's been announced that teams get buttons ahead of time. As the kits are more-or-less interchangeable between teams, and buttons with team-specific numbers on them are not, that seems likely to me the reason for it to be separate and not a part of the main kits. I'm guessing that the guess that the "very small item" is the set of buttons is right.

Of course, it could also mean that the "extra" 5th drive team member button is actually the game piece. :)

There's nothing in that link that says we get them ahead of time. Just "Every team will be getting a set like this". We may get a set like that... during registration at our event. We might get it in the KoP. They might be mailed to us mid-season for all we know.

ATannahill 04-01-2017 11:51

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by petercooperjr (Post 1625004)
But this year, it's been announced that teams get buttons ahead of time. As the kits are more-or-less interchangeable between teams, and buttons with team-specific numbers on them are not, that seems likely to me the reason for it to be separate and not a part of the main kits. I'm guessing that the guess that the "very small item" is the set of buttons is right.

Of course, it could also mean that the "extra" 5th drive team member button is actually the game piece. :)

I don't see where it is stated that teams get them ahead of time.

Quote:

Every team will be getting a set like this (with your own team number printed on them, of course).
Strictly, this says that each team only gets one set of buttons, but that might be too strict. This has no bearing on when the buttons are received.

cadandcookies 04-01-2017 11:55

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BotDesigner (Post 1625006)
The weight difference between 4" plaction wheels with tread (0.55 pounds) and 6" plaction wheels with tread (0.84 pounds) is 0.29 pounds. With six wheels this means a 1.74 pound total weight difference.

AndyMark does not list the weight of the HiGrip wheels (which have been used on the KOP fro the past +3 years) on the website.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1625007)
There's nothing in that link that says we get them ahead of time. Just "Every team will be getting a set like this". We may get a set like that... during registration at our event. We might get it in the KoP. They might be mailed to us mid-season for all we know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ATannahill (Post 1625008)
I don't see where it is stated that teams get them ahead of time.



Strictly, this says that each team only gets one set of buttons, but that might be too strict. This has no bearing on when the buttons are received.

I would lean towards Jon's interpretation that it's all very ambiguous at this point and we'll all just have to wait until Saturday to see.

That said that small package does tip the odds somewhat more towards us getting them ahead of time.

GeeTwo 04-01-2017 13:38

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The description of the very small item is that it is one item (like the battery), not multiple items (like the 4 aluminum tubes from last year, or the totes). So, not a set of drive team buttons.

Jon Stratis 04-01-2017 14:00

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1625024)
The description of the very small item is that it is one item (like the battery), not multiple items (like the 4 aluminum tubes from last year, or the totes). So, not a set of drive team buttons.

Very good observation... not listed as a "set of items", but "one very small item".

GeeTwo 04-01-2017 14:14

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1625032)
Very good observation... not listed as a "set of items", but "one very small item".

How are we going to keep track of which neutrino belongs to our team? :confused:

FrankJ 04-01-2017 14:35

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BotDesigner (Post 1625006)
The weight difference between 4" plaction wheels with tread (0.55 pounds) and 6" plaction wheels with tread (0.84 pounds) is 0.29 pounds. With six wheels this means a 1.74 pound total weight difference.

Of course you will not need wheels if it is an air game. :ahh:

Hadi379 04-01-2017 14:35

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one small item = drone

Daniel_LaFleur 04-01-2017 15:41

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Hadi379 (Post 1625044)
one small item = drone

RC Blimp

ctt956 04-01-2017 16:14

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1624975)
So.. apart from the totes being a few pounds lighter or heavier, add one very small item. It must be a packet of instant steam!

Maybe instant snow?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbysq (Post 1624976)
One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs.

That's probably the tote

One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs.

Aluminum tubes.

One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs.

Battery

One very small item.

I have no clue what this could be, or why it can't go in the tote. Maybe the KOP is locked this year and this is the key?

Quote:

Originally Posted by weaversam8 (Post 1624977)
The predictions our team came up with were:

Regular Kit:
One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs. = Tote
One set of items, collectively, 2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs. = 4 aluminum tubes like last year
One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. = Battery
One very small item. = A button with Frank Merrick's face on it.

Rookie Kit:
One set of items, collectively, 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 30 lbs. = Rookie Tote
One item, 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. = Battery

Drive Base Kit:
One set of items, collectively, 7 in. x 7 in. x 34 in., 25 lbs. = Drive Base

These seem to be accurate. I thought the tubes could be part of a field element, but if they were in the Kit last year, probably not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobotsQ (Post 1624980)
At first glance the optimist would draw the conclusion that the small item was the game piece and would point towards the "coal" theory on game pieces (small and non-spherical). But I think it is unlikely they would pack a game piece outside of the tote, as the game piece is probably the first thing to be accounted for in terms of space in the tote.

I can hope though right? :p .

Maybe dice/a die? But they're pretty inexpensive, so why only send one? Game pieces last year became damaged from being shoved in the tote, so they might be outside of it this year.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chrisfl (Post 1624996)
The small package could be our drive team buttons

My thoughts exactly, but as someone else said it is just one item...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hadi379 (Post 1625044)
one small item = drone

Must be a small drone...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur (Post 1625066)
RC Blimp

Possibly, if it folds up tightly.

Maybe it's a battery for the minibot or a minibot kit?

FrankJ 04-01-2017 16:23

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Daniel_LaFleur (Post 1625066)
RC Blimp

Starts off small until you fill it with H2, Imagine the fun it that. Just don't tell Al that we are using flammable materials. :ahh:
The other option is hot air. No shortage in that.

Caleb Sykes 04-01-2017 18:12

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Here are some things that might be bad to put in a tote:
a mouse, a hamster, a frog, an insect, a glass trinket, soup, a small ice sculpture, C4, chocolate, a goldfish, a plant, something battery operated that needs to stay powered at all times, something that is volatile when exposed to air, or a really strong magnet

bdaroz 04-01-2017 18:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Caleb Sykes (Post 1625169)
Here are some things that might be bad to put in a tote:
a mouse, a hamster, a frog, an insect, a glass trinket, soup, a small ice sculpture, C4, chocolate, a goldfish, a plant, something battery operated that needs to stay powered at all times, something that is volatile when exposed to air, or a really strong magnet

I think a few of them can be ruled out... you know... safety and all. :)

Jacob Bendicksen 04-01-2017 18:52

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Thinking out loud...seems like there's a chance that a game piece won't be part of the KoP, so what games could be played without game pieces?

The game could be played entirely with field elements that teams have to build or be based entirely off of robot position/actions without game pieces...thoughts?

Lireal 04-01-2017 18:57

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob Bendicksen (Post 1625180)
Thinking out loud...seems like there's a chance that a game piece won't be part of the KoP, so what games could be played without game pieces?

The game could be played entirely with field elements that teams have to build or be based entirely off of robot position/actions without game pieces...thoughts?

Most game pieces will fit inside of the bin with the rest of the donated parts, so just because there isn't a different package doesn't mean there is no game piece.

EricH 04-01-2017 19:43

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Stratis (Post 1625032)
Very good observation... not listed as a "set of items", but "one very small item".

Envelope, with 6 buttons inside. Not quite sure I'd class that as "very small", but it's one item.

maxnz 04-01-2017 19:46

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
I may be wrong but I think that the 2 lb increase in Kit Tote weight could be because of the game piece(s). The foam ball last year was somewhat light compared to, say, frisbees.

marshall 04-01-2017 19:56

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Does anyone know when I'll be able to download the firmware for the OM5P-AC radio? :rolleyes:

nickmcski 04-01-2017 20:00

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall (Post 1625220)
Does anyone know when I'll be able to download the firmware for the OM5P-AC radio? :rolleyes:

I think it will be included in the FRC 2017 Update Suite

Lireal 04-01-2017 22:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by marshall (Post 1625220)
Does anyone know when I'll be able to download the firmware for the OM5P-AC radio? :rolleyes:

https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...hreadid=152971

dradel 04-01-2017 22:29

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
small object...... steamworks lots of coal guesses... build season pressure

coal+pressure=diamond. the small object is a diamond :)

jaredhk 04-01-2017 23:42

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonathan Bryant, FIRST Robotics Competition Kit of Parts Engineer (Post 1624962)
One very small item.

Obviously they are just giving us more Woodie Flowers themed ringtones like those from the DLCs.

GeeTwo 04-01-2017 23:56

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jacob Bendicksen (Post 1625180)
...what games could be played without game pieces??

Robo-'res'lin'!

Edit (obviously):
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight_2 (Post 1625434)
Slow clap initiated..... and it could be a game where we manipulate the field itself.:(

Thanks. Manipulating the field elements was a key feature of the game from our in-team speculation that we used for a fall build -- we had "steam valves" for the robots to operate which would trigger motion of field elements.

Shifter 05-01-2017 09:04

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

One very small item.
This would be the understatement of the year if the item turned out to be a HoloLens.

And the extra drive team button turned out to be for the pilot (of the team-designed virtual dirigible/airship).

"Grab your goggles!"

"Prepare to take flight!"

Dwight_2 05-01-2017 09:34

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeeTwo (Post 1625370)
Robo-'res'lin'!

Slow clap initiated..... and it could be a game where we manipulate the field itself.:(

gegozi 05-01-2017 13:20

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
I agree that the first item, the 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 50 lbs. is a tote. This is supported by the 27 in. x 17 in. x 13 in., 30 lbs. item for rookies.

2 in. x 2 in. x 48 in., 5 lbs. is probably some metal, possibly like last year.

I could see how the 8 in. x 3 in. x 7 in., 14 lbs. item is a battery, since rookies get an item of identical dimensions.

The "very small item" is a mystery. I think there are two main reasons why the dimensions are not specified. If FIRST gives us the dimensions before kickoff to help with transportation, then they think that this item will not be significantly difficult to transport. But I think that this lack of information is a hint. They basically told us that it would be easy to transport, but that specifying exact dimensions would make the item easy to figure out. Based on this, I think the item must be a ball, or something with well-known dimensions.
There is also another possible interpretation. FIRST may think that we don't need the size before kickoff, and knowing them, they give us as little information as possible.
I think that another possibility that we should consider is that regardless of the size of the "very small object", it is relatively heavy (possibly 10 pounds or greater). FIRST knows that we are in high school, so they want to limit the weight of each item in the kickoff kit to about 50 pounds.

This "very small item" is shrouded in mystery, and this is my opinion. What do you think?

:confused::ahh::yikes::eek:

Gal

TurboTech 05-01-2017 14:03

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Maybe it's a FRC legal lipo battery for the secondary flying robot

cadandcookies 05-01-2017 14:27

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboTech (Post 1625545)
Maybe it's a FRC legal lipo battery for the secondary flying robot

If they are, then I expect somewhere around 1000%+ uptick in fires at build spaces around three months from now.

Monochron 05-01-2017 17:49

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cadandcookies (Post 1625555)
If they are, then I expect somewhere around 1000%+ uptick in fires at build spaces around three months from now.

Hey man, the winter can get pretty cold. Wouldn't mind a nice heartwarming toxic fire.

TurboTech 05-01-2017 23:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Monochron (Post 1625609)
Hey man, the winter can get pretty cold. Wouldn't mind a nice heartwarming toxic fire.

They're real good for roasting marshmallows, you can even add a little locktite to your smores. Makes for a unique flavour.

Bkeeneykid 05-01-2017 23:08

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TurboTech (Post 1625784)
They're real good for roasting marshmallows, you can even add a little locktite to your smores. Makes for a unique flavour.

Mmmm. Smokey, death flavored marshmallows! Perfect to go along with that new safety award!

LogicParadox 05-01-2017 23:23

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
How about a flash drive?
The question is what would it contain?

BotDesigner 06-01-2017 00:11

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Whatever the "small item" is, FIRST had to have had a good reason to not put it in a tote. Anything small should fit in a tote though.:confused:

Lireal 06-01-2017 00:34

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BotDesigner (Post 1625795)
Whatever the "small item" is, FIRST had to have had a good reason to not put it in a tote. Anything small should fit in a tote though.:confused:

The only reasons I can think of for it to be separate is that it is team specific, since it easier to make totes standard, or it was added to late to be included to the bin.

Mark McLeod 06-01-2017 08:07

Re: [FRC Blog] 2017 Kit of Parts
 
In prior years the "small item" has been donations that arrived too late for the KOP tote packing process.
I've been handed small motors and other random items as part of the Kit distribution.


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