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Re: FIRST Festival of Champions

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Originally Posted by Tyler Olds (Post 1625125)

It can be both but we will need to see if FIRST decides that the winners are world champs (maybe universe champions?). It could be similar to how Duluth does the Double Decc'r winner where the two regionals face off against each other. It's cool but doesn't really mean anything.

Universal champion is taken:

World champion is fine by me. :)

Re: FIRST Festival of Champions

I hope cheesecake is allowed, encouraged, and maybe paid for. Git rid of the BOM cost limits too! I want to see stupid good robots out there with over the top performance and obscene top scores because why not!? Great announcement FIRST.

Re: FIRST Festival of Champions

"Where's the CD thread about the cool new thing?"

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Re: FIRST Festival of Champions

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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1625078)

Who is actually going to send their teams to this should they win? There is no incentive to attend this by the winning teams. If FIRST wants this to be successful they need to pay for the teams to travel. This will not be a cheap trip.

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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1625087)

We actually asked them not to split the championship into two super regionals. This Festival of Champions adds absolutely nothing to the experience of FIRST as a whole.

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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1625108)

How is this an extreme statement? 8 robots and potentially 8 other non competing teams attending an exhibition. The only thing this adds value is to the teams who can afford to actually attend should they qualify or live close. I would say the only thing worth going for would be the dinner at Deans house.

Why am I going to waste my time to watch the webcast? What are they going to give the general audience? Unless they add something of value to the audience with future announcements this idea is dumb. Call me negative if you want but if my team qualifies for this I will not attend.

We get it. You don't like this. The whole regional -> Champs -> Festival thing is bad. Would it help if we renamed things? How about regional -> super regional -> champs?

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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1468359)

This might be one of the worst decisions FIRST has ever made. They were doing so good too, actually listening to what teams wanted. This definitely wasn't what people have been asking for. Districts >super regionals > world championship . That's the route we should be taking l. Not this.

Someone is just never happy.

Re: FIRST Festival of Champions

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Originally Posted by Aur0r4 (Post 1625131)

"Where's the CD thread about the cool new thing?"

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Just going to leave this here:

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You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Aur0r4 again.

Re: FIRST Festival of Champions

I would hate to win one of the #2Champs in my senior year of high school now

FIRST Festival of Champions

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Originally Posted by connor.worley (Post 1625096)

Sucks to be on the west coast!

It's OK, we still have Chezy Champs.

Re: FIRST Festival of Champions

While we're all unsure of how the rules will work regarding robot repairs and rework between the Championship and the Festival of Champions (it's not really "cheesecake" if you build it for yourself over 2 months), the concept of a competition in which the alliances already know their partners and their opponents and have months of time to prepare for the match-up excites me greatly. It's a whole different dynamic than everything else we've experienced in FRC before.

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I'm happy for this even if it just means that when the option of holding a single champs comes back on the table in a couple years they realize the additional overhead necessary when making the decision to split champs. There is a good chance that the FOC championship matches will be the most expensive matches of FRC ever.

Re: FIRST Festival of Champions

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Originally Posted by Lil' Lavery (Post 1625144)

Agreed. Not knowing the rules for FoC, it seems like teams might want to pick other teams that are geographically near them so they can practice together from May-July.

-Mike

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Maybe they want to make it televised. This format would make it easier and more watchable.

Re: FIRST Festival of Champions

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Originally Posted by Michael Corsetto (Post 1625150)

Agreed. Not knowing the rules for FoC, it seems like teams might want to pick other teams that are geographically near them so they can practice together from May-July.

-Mike

Agreed - although my suspicion is FIRST will impound the robots at champs and take them directly to New Hampshire.

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It will be interesting to see what format this ends up being.
If it is just 8 teams.... will there be new alliances formed?
If there are quals... then how does that work? It only takes 16 matches total to get all the teams 12 matches a piece considering that each match has 6 teams playing. ( I am sure that won't work and will probably need some surrogate appearances... but it won't take many....)

Do the the top two qualifiers then get to pick alliances as normal?
Hmmmm looks like the two #1 picks and alliance captains from the other champs could get together.... at least two of them...

This could be interesting.

What does everyone else think? How do you think they will do it?

Surely it won't simply be the Houston winning alliance vs the St. Louis winning alliance... that would be pretty short and hardly worth the money to get the robot out there.... and the team...

Ideas?

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I'm 100% for this. Also how cool would it be to be the first ever.... :ahh:

Re: FIRST Festival of Champions

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Originally Posted by Bob Steele (Post 1625155)

Surely it won't simply be the Houston winning alliance vs the St. Louis winning alliance... that would be pretty short and hardly worth the money to get the robot out there.... and the team...

I think it will be this.

It is simple, but would be awesome for the teams that can go.

-Mike