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inventor_phild 07-01-2017 11:55

FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Here are the links to the models of this years field.

Autodesk Inventor 2017

https://autodesk.box.com/s/k0cuhqx5d...07dtuu94hhgjxm

Fusion 360

https://autodesk.box.com/s/uka5vn381...pv04r4ga19t645

STEP

https://autodesk.box.com/s/mkoxp5x4i...uboqwhppqck6wk


I will be posting some additional information and a short video to explain the motion I added to the assembly. We get to know how the competition works at the same time as yourself so I added motion where I thought it would be required.

Check later to today for more information.

inventor_phild 07-01-2017 12:57

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Here is a short video overview of the Autodesk Inventor 2017 field model.

https://autodesk.box.com/s/f5as7ooo4...d4ts057dw6d7jc

I didn't have my studio quality audio equipment handy, so I had to settle for a cheapo headset!!

Tweekme 07-01-2017 13:32

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Phil, Is it possible to get the Inventor files ion the 2015 version of Inventor? Our school system is still on Inventor 2015 unfortunately.

Thanks!

swodaem 07-01-2017 13:59

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but shouldn't the STEP files work for you since they are a universal 3D file format?

Tweekme 07-01-2017 14:07

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
You can import your part as a step file, but you won't have the same editing capabilities.

inventor_phild 07-01-2017 14:08

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Unfortunately not. If you download the STEP file you can do the following,

1. Select all items in the browser, then ground the parts / subassemblies.

2. Identify the parts you want to move then open the subassembly and start removing any grounding and adding constraints. See my short video on this.

3. Color of the parts is another issue. The only major changes will be the floor markings and the transparent sections that I changed to Polycarbonate (Clear).

I will pass along your comments in regards to creating the model in one or two releases earlier than the current release.

Tweekme 07-01-2017 14:16

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Thanks Phil!

MrRoboSteve 07-01-2017 18:36

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Thanks for posting this. FWIW, we noticed that the four lines defining the retrieval zone and key aren't the correct colors in all cases.

inventor_phild 07-01-2017 18:45

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Thanks. As I noted in my video the lines were a concern when I created the Inventor model from the supplied files. Now we have the official competition video etc. I will check them against my file.

Nbot 07-01-2017 19:07

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
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First of all, thank you and Autodesk for putting the Field CAD together every year, it's a fantastic resource which I am extremely grateful for. However, while taking some measurements from the alliance wall to the base line I noticed some discrepancies between the CAD and the game manual. The game manual states "BASE LINE: a green line that spans the width of the FIELD and is 9 ft. 4 in. (~284 cm) from the ALLIANCE WALL diamond plate." Measuring that same distance in CAD returns 7.787 feet. Is this just an error in my copy of the CAD or does the official field CAD have this as well?

inventor_phild 07-01-2017 19:26

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Nbot,

Thanks for the comments. I don't have access to the game manual before Kick Off so there may be some discrepancies between the CAD model I was supplied with and the Inventor model I create and posted today.

Easy fix, the green line is grounded in Inventor. Remove the grounding, then apply the necessary constraints to place it 93.3" from the alliance wall.

I also applied a green color to the line.

I have updated my model for official posting on the Autodesk site on Monday.

I am also checking the other lines supplied to me against the Inventor model.

inventor_phild 07-01-2017 20:38

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
I am looking over the final drawings provided today on the FRC page and am finding some differences on the locations of the markers based on previous information I received.

They are mostly easy fixes such as modifying constraints I have already placed based on previous information.

I am working my way through all the numbers and will provide a summary tomorrow morning.

Bpk9p4 07-01-2017 21:18

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Thanks for posting these. These are great

lphung 07-01-2017 21:54

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Awesome! Thank you for modeling the field :)

Dukenator76 08-01-2017 02:12

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Im new to inventor is there anyway to get a view from the alliance station wall like what I would see if I were driving the robot?

inventor_phild 08-01-2017 14:44

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
You can create a new front view based on the current view but I think you are probably looking for something more dynamic. This solution would be a single, mostly static view.

Let me think about it some more for a better solution.

Eraani Ruiz 08-01-2017 23:33

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Hello,
My team and I tried to download the Inventor and the Fusion 360 but somehow cannot open it in neither of the programs, is there something else we need to do in order to open those files (apart of downloading the programs) or an explanation to why we cannot open them?
:confused:

Thanks

echin 08-01-2017 23:52

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
What version of Inventor/ Fusion are you using? Autodesk files are not backwards compatible (you can't open an Inventor 2017 file in Inventor 2016). If that's the issue, you could try the STEP file as others have suggested.

markmcgary 09-01-2017 01:30

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Thank you for making the Field CAD available. The ability to visualize this game from a drive team perspective has been quite shocking. I have not seen much discussion of the visibility challenges that the AIRSHIPs are introducing to this game. I think that it will be very difficult to cycle GEARs or even FUEL depending upon your PLAYER STATION because FIELD visibility appears to vary wildly. Am I missing something?

sanddrag 09-01-2017 01:49

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Eraani Ruiz (Post 1627587)
Hello,
My team and I tried to download the Inventor and the Fusion 360 but somehow cannot open it in neither of the programs, is there something else we need to do in order to open those files (apart of downloading the programs) or an explanation to why we cannot open them?
:confused:

Thanks

For Inventor, you might want to set your project file to the included one first, then open the assembly. Also, make sure you are running Inventor 2017. Otherwise, as mentioned, use the STEP files.

amaniace 10-01-2017 10:15

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
What scale did you use to make this? Is that explained in the video?

inventor_phild 10-01-2017 13:07

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
The parts are actual size, so 1:1.

Levi Madden 10-01-2017 18:31

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
The dimension for the baseline had been corrected in team update 1. It is NOT 9 ft 4 inches (previous manual statement). It is 7 ft 9 and 1/4 inches from the alliance wall (team update 1 statement).

Nbot 10-01-2017 19:34

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi Madden (Post 1628866)
The dimension for the baseline had been corrected in team update 1. It is NOT 9 ft 4 inches (previous manual statement). It is 7 ft 9 and 1/4 inches from the alliance wall (team update 1 statement).

Props to Autodesk for making their CAD more accurate than the game manual.

protoserge 12-01-2017 20:43

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Is the fuel modeled correctly in the KoP download? Ours is 4" diameter.

We corrected it by making the ball 2.5" diameter and the hole pattern spacing to 2.5" as well.

Hadi379 12-01-2017 20:56

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Levi Madden (Post 1628866)
The dimension for the baseline had been corrected in team update 1. It is NOT 9 ft 4 inches (previous manual statement). It is 7 ft 9 and 1/4 inches from the alliance wall (team update 1 statement).

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nbot (Post 1628913)
Props to Autodesk for making their CAD more accurate than the game manual.

The field I downloaded has the baseline at 9ft from the alliance wall, is there an updated version out there somewhere?

inventor_phild 15-01-2017 13:50

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Check out the field on the Autodesk website.

http://www.autodesk.com/education/co...t/all-products

Let me know if this works.

Hadi379 15-01-2017 17:11

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Phil,

I think that link is incorrect

inventor_phild 16-01-2017 02:18

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
http://www.autodesk.com/education/co...t/all-products

CoachDotKam 16-01-2017 11:51

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
We have some video of the field from driver stations that we captured through VR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3IwrBywC7g

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCMm...7a8p-upznqTk_w

inventor_phild 16-01-2017 23:13

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
That is great, well done!!

En1gm4tic 27-01-2017 02:37

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Is there any way I could convert this into an FBX file for proper use in Unity? I had seen a video about someone looking at the field through a VR headset and would like to create a similar experience for my team.

inventor_phild 27-01-2017 14:15

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Looks like you have to import to 3ds then use 3ds to convert to FBX.

Here are a couple of links.

http://answers.unity3d.com/questions...iles-to-u.html

This is a link to free trial of a conversion software. Always use with care!

http://www.simlab-soft.com/3d-plugin...ntor-main.aspx

M. Mellott 30-01-2017 14:07

Re: FRC 2017 Competition Field
 
Phil...thank you for all of your work--much appreciated!!


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