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WSiggs 07-01-2017 16:40

Useless Gear Slot in Overflow Loading Station?
 
In the Overflow Loading Station in each teams Alliance Station, there is a gear slot like that of the Return Loading Stations. Next to each Return Loading Station there are stacks of gears to be put into play by the opposing alliance, and there does not appear to be a stack for the OLS. This begs the question as to why there is a gear slot on the OLS. The game manual says "An Overflow LOADING STATION is used to feed FUEL from the OVERFLOW BIN on to the FIELD." and there is no mention of gears being inputted. Am I missing something or is this a useless slot?

EricH 07-01-2017 16:44

Re: Useless Gear Slot in Overflow Loading Station?
 
Game pieces that somehow migrate out of the Loading Lane into the Alliance Station belong to the Alliance that owns that station. Section 4.6.

Also, sometimes if something is just a little off, it makes sense to just build it the same. FIRST is building 6 loading stations per field, may as well just build them all the same as it's one less part number to track.

seg9585 08-01-2017 00:17

Re: Useless Gear Slot in Overflow Loading Station?
 
But the point is, one is not allowed to use the Overflow Loading station to enter gears onto the field, right? The rules specifically say that:

"An Overflow LOADING STATION is used to feed FUEL from the OVERFLOW BIN on to the FIELD. "

Does that inherently means you CANNOT use that loading station for any other purpose?

Dwight_2 08-01-2017 07:35

Re: Useless Gear Slot in Overflow Loading Station?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seg9585 (Post 1626969)
But the point is, one is not allowed to use the Overflow Loading station to enter gears onto the field, right? The rules specifically say that:

"An Overflow LOADING STATION is used to feed FUEL from the OVERFLOW BIN on to the FIELD. "

Does that inherently means you CANNOT use that loading station for any other purpose?

I may not be fully correct but I believe that the overflow station gear drop is for the gear the opposing alliance has not taken as preload for autonomous. so like if your alliance only takes one gear preload the other two go to the overflow on the other side of the field.

NicusTM 08-01-2017 08:07

Re: Useless Gear Slot in Overflow Loading Station?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight_2 (Post 1627062)
I may not be fully correct but I believe that the overflow station gear drop is for the gear the opposing alliance has not taken as preload for autonomous. so like if your alliance only takes one gear preload the other two go to the overflow on the other side of the field.

The gears that aren't preloaded are added to the 18 gears in the loading lanes, so they don't go to the overflow loading stations. (pg 40)

linzerin 08-01-2017 08:15

Re: Useless Gear Slot in Overflow Loading Station?
 
That kind you for posting this question, we had the same confusion/conversation. Ultimately, we agreed that no gears would be loaded from the overflow station and it was designed that way simply to be consistent with the other stations.

Ari423 08-01-2017 08:18

Re: Useless Gear Slot in Overflow Loading Station?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwight_2 (Post 1627062)
I may not be fully correct but I believe that the overflow station gear drop is for the gear the opposing alliance has not taken as preload for autonomous. so like if your alliance only takes one gear preload the other two go to the overflow on the other side of the field.

I don't think you are correct.
Quote:

Originally Posted by 4.2 Match Setup
GEARS
D. One (1) available to each team to preload in their ROBOT (any not preloaded are staged with GEARS in E)
E. Eighteen (18) in each LOADING LANE (staged on the carpet between the LOADING STATION and the STARTING LINE)
F. One (1) in each AIRSHIP


linzerin 08-01-2017 08:19

Re: Useless Gear Slot in Overflow Loading Station?
 
Thank you for posting this question, we had the same confusion/conversation. We couldn't find anywhere in the manual that discussed gears being loaded from that station. Ultimately, we agreed that gears would loaded from the other two feeder station a and it was designed that way simply to be consistent with the other stations.

dmorewood 08-01-2017 09:28

Re: Useless Gear Slot in Overflow Loading Station?
 
You start with 30 fuel and 3 gears behind your alliance station wall that can be introduced during Tele. These 3 gears are separate from the 3 gears that you are able to load into your alliance's robots in Auton.

NShep98 08-01-2017 09:31

Re: Useless Gear Slot in Overflow Loading Station?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dmorewood (Post 1627096)
You start with 30 fuel and 3 gears behind your alliance station wall that can be introduced during Tele. These 3 gears are separate from the 3 gears that you are able to load into your alliance's robots in Auton.

That is incorrect

Quote:

GEARS
D. One (1) available to each team to preload in their ROBOT (any not preloaded are staged with GEARS in E)
E. Eighteen (18) in each LOADING LANE (staged on the carpet between the LOADING STATION and the STARTING LINE)
F. One (1) in each AIRSHIP


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