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BenGuy 08-01-2017 12:57

Team made Airship
 
Are any of you guys going to make an airship in your shops? The team drawings don't exist for an airship as a whole so teams would have to convert the drawings and everything. Any teams going to attempt this?

John.Benz 08-01-2017 13:13

Re: Team made Airship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BenGuy (Post 1627189)
Are any of you guys going to make an airship in your shops? The team drawings don't exist for an airship as a whole so teams would have to convert the drawings and everything. Any teams going to attempt this?

I believe our team is going to, not sure on the drawings yet.

the programmer 10-01-2017 12:51

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We will be doing this at least partially. The big things that are lacking for us in the current team drawings are the actuation of the lifts, the geometry of the ropes (the support structure in the current team drawing that doesn't exist on the actual field) and the overall footprint and visual obstruction of the airship.

I'll be sure to post any drawings we make.

Richard Wallace 10-01-2017 12:58

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Our plan is to build a partial airship using (mostly) wood. It will have one davit, one set of gear spindles, and one lift. Hopefully that will be sufficient for our students to practice pilot duties. We will re-orient it to practice different auto modes.

Eric Scheuing 10-01-2017 13:17

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Not me personally, but I know 195 and some of the other local teams will be building a practice field. Usually it's pretty close approximation of the regular field.

cscottm 10-01-2017 14:00

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2502 is hosting our local week zero event. We have a sponsor willing to manufacture one, if not both airships to full field specifications. So we are building field level airships.

Michael Kaurich 10-01-2017 14:12

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For the team I was planning on building half of the hexagon and supporting it.

However, at the office we have a full playing field that is used by teams and was trying to figure out how to build the best approximate for a field in our space.

Any suggestions on this process are welcomed.

Sperkowsky 10-01-2017 14:16

Re: Team made Airship
 
We are going to be building 1/2 of the airship. We want to have 1 or 2 lifts and atleast one rope assembly. It will be built almost entirely out of wood. Once our mentor finishes building the other field elements he will work out a design although I'm hoping by then someone else designed one.

Not really sure why first didn't design a team version. We don't have any problem at all designing one and our mentor would probably be thrilled to do it, but it does almost feel like we are doing their work.

Kartoffee 10-01-2017 15:30

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Our team has access to those plastic folding platforms, that can be flat and 1' tall, or folded down into risers/steps, like for a choir practice. We were able to use that for the platform, and the rest we are thinking of covering to make the hexagon shape. We only have 1 lift, though we might throw together another close replica later. Our team has a plywood Boiler and half a Hopper. Pilot practice will be really important because of how easily one can obtain a red card, so we hope to have a decent representation soon.

Good luck all!

ForeShadow00 10-01-2017 15:52

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Team 5484, we have the room and the ability so we wanted our drivers and human players used to moving around it.

MonroeM 10-01-2017 16:07

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If you are going to build an airship you should have two gear lifts on it. We are building one and with the two lifts we will be able to practice auton both straight on and to the side lift.

BenGuy 10-01-2017 16:44

Re: Team made Airship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by the programmer (Post 1628652)
We will be doing this at least partially. The big things that are lacking for us in the current team drawings are the actuation of the lifts, the geometry of the ropes (the support structure in the current team drawing that doesn't exist on the actual field) and the overall footprint and visual obstruction of the airship.

I'll be sure to post any drawings we make.

Thanks, we are currently converting over all of the regular field drawings to team drawing type wood structures for the airship to make ours but it's a really long process, any drawings you guys come up with would really help. Thanks.

BenGuy 10-01-2017 16:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cscottm (Post 1628700)
2502 is hosting our local week zero event. We have a sponsor willing to manufacture one, if not both airships to full field specifications. So we are building field level airships.

Nice! If only we had a sponsor like that too haha.

Poseidon5817 10-01-2017 16:55

Re: Team made Airship
 
We are currently making great progress on a full airship out of metal, if anyone wants pictures I can share them down the road.

BenGuy 10-01-2017 17:19

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Originally Posted by Poseidon5817 (Post 1628813)
We are currently making great progress on a full airship out of metal, if anyone wants pictures I can share them down the road.

That'd be great, thanks.

EricLeifermann 10-01-2017 17:35

Re: Team made Airship
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Sperkowsky (Post 1628704)
We are going to be building 1/2 of the airship. We want to have 1 or 2 lifts and atleast one rope assembly. It will be built almost entirely out of wood. Once our mentor finishes building the other field elements he will work out a design although I'm hoping by then someone else designed one.

Not really sure why first didn't design a team version. We don't have any problem at all designing one and our mentor would probably be thrilled to do it, but it does almost feel like we are doing their work.

FIRST gives out a team version of the airship that is supposed to hold 2 high school students. Kid get hurt when airship breaks, sues FIRST. This was a CYA move by FIRST.

BenGuy 10-01-2017 19:19

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Originally Posted by EricLeifermann (Post 1628832)
FIRST gives out a team version of the airship that is supposed to hold 2 high school students. Kid get hurt when airship breaks, sues FIRST. This was a CYA move by FIRST.

I guess, it seems like a lot of teams are going to be making their own though. Some paperwork explaining liabilities and still releasing team versions would be useful. A lot of teams have to go through time in build season to make their own it looks like.

ForeShadow00 10-01-2017 20:02

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BenGuy 10-01-2017 20:54

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Wow. That's a field. I assume you guys are going to do the whole airship and everything? If so, how did you plan for it / CAD draw it? Thanks. That's really impressive actually both how grand the field is and how fast you guys have built it.

Foster 10-01-2017 21:52

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Nice, the airship will make a cool playhouse in someone's back yard.

ForeShadow00 10-01-2017 22:17

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We will be building the smoke stack and dividers still. Not the rotors though. We just used the field components that was released along side the manual on kickoff.

I just had a daughter 6 months ago, and i'm making a plan for her play house now.

StAxis 11-01-2017 10:48

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Has anyone constructed a wooden airship that would be willing to share dimensions? We are working on our own now but any help/advice would be appreciated.

Richard Wallace 11-01-2017 11:52

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Originally Posted by StAxis (Post 1629206)
Has anyone constructed a wooden airship that would be willing to share dimensions? We are working on our own now but any help/advice would be appreciated.

3620 built a wooden version of the LIFT. Video here.

BenGuy 11-01-2017 13:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ForeShadow00 (Post 1628995)
We will be building the smoke stack and dividers still. Not the rotors though. We just used the field components that was released along side the manual on kickoff.

I just had a daughter 6 months ago, and i'm making a plan for her play house now.

What about the davits and lifts and stuff?

Bob Steele 18-01-2017 23:00

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Great looking practice field.... We are struggling to find plans for the pieces.
Any help will be appreciated. You are well on your way.

GreyingJay 19-01-2017 00:58

Re: Team made Airship
 
5406 seems to have built one too:

https://mobile.twitter.com/celtxrobo...87679574982656

frcguy 19-01-2017 01:48

Team made Airship
 
We (along with 5026 and 4904) are in the process of building two metal airships to go with the practice field we've set up for local teams. If you are a local team (Northern California area pretty much) check out this if you're interested in using the field: https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...d.php?t=152778. We're always looking to share this with more teams!

Koko Ed 19-01-2017 04:52

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I saw Code Orange is making one.

Greg Needel 19-01-2017 07:49

Re: Team made Airship
 
here is ours

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net...b0&oe=5921C8D4

BenGuy 19-01-2017 19:19

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Does anyone have any drawings for their airships?

pHolmgren 19-01-2017 19:48

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Each year, our team builds a full sized practice field for teams in the area to practice on. This year, however, our field will only feature a single airship. Our reference is mostly a cut-list made by looking at the field step files available at https://autodesk.app.box.com/s/mkoxp...uboqwhppqck6wk

tr6scott 20-01-2017 08:06

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Thanks, this thread is a great resource. We too have been doing a week 0 event for a few years now. We try to have a full field to play on, Last year we were able to have all of the defenses, and towers completed. This year it is going to be a struggle without some drawings. Our week 0 is run a little different, as we invite rookie teams and have our shop open, and resources to help them get some run time, and improvements prior to bag day. We don't typically have formal practice matches, but we try to have a good representation of the field, so teams can work out some autos, and gain some driver experience. We have not started our field construction yet, as we don't have the room to store it before week 0, when we get the gym.

If anybody has some addition drawings or manpower requirements to build, and a material list, that would be really helpful, but love seeing the pictures here. :)

RoboTigers1796 20-01-2017 21:48

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Has anyone made the whole hand crank as of yet or a close replica? We are trying to make one as close as possible to the real deal.

Looking at GE-17088 assembly the crank post (GE-17097) attaches to the crank handle (GE-17096). But unless I am missing something obvious I can't find the dimensions/ material of the crank handle (GE-17096).

nuclearnerd 20-01-2017 22:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tr6scott (Post 1633839)
If anybody has some addition drawings or manpower requirements to build, and a material list, that would be really helpful, but love seeing the pictures here. :)

https://www.chiefdelphi.com/forums/s...74&postcount=9


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